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your first link goes against what I posted so I will address it first. I challenge you find me a truly corn oil free corn byproduct. Good luck.
your second link is right on with what I posted. really think about what was in my last post. read it 3 or 4 times if you have to. and lectins are one thing secretory insufficiency, INTERFERES WITH CARDIOVASCULAR ACTIVITY . are completely different beasts. |
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Me being an A Nonnie if I eat corn tortillas
Again, corn is an avoid for you. If you have an issue with particular oils, then avoid them. Understand that there are genetic differences with every person where, there might be a food that is classified as neutral/beneficial, yet, an individual may still have a reaction to that food. Here's a good example. Cassandra, a blogger here, is a Type O secretor but she can't eat beef. She's tried it organically grown. She's tried it with digestive enzymes. She's tried it with no hormones. She's tried it as grass fed. Each and every time she gets a negative reaction eating beef. She came to the conclusion that she's allergic to this Type O beneficial food. Should she continue to try to eat it, just because Dr. D says it's a beneficial? No. For her unique individuality, it's an allergen food and she no longer eats it. From what you are posting, it appears that you have an issue with all corn and corn byproducts. If so, then avoid them. It doesn't mean that corn and corn byproducts will be an avoid for all Type A's. But it certainly appears to be for you. |
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Just got back from my doctor. When you check for secretor statuswhat exactly is it called.eg. Gastric secretion, bile secretion
He also confirmed what I was thinking but hoping for some different answer. I can't really embrace this diet and take meds such as nexium and gaviscon at the same time. I have to go off the meds if I am to give this a chance. The meds and BTD Clash. |
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Just got back from my doctor. When you check for secretor statuswhat exactly is it called.eg. Gastric secretion, bile secretion
What is tested is your saliva for the presence of your BTD antigen. The testing is called secretor status. This is controlled by a specific gene. You can read more about it in the wiki hereIf your doctor doesn't have a saliva test, the best way to do it is to order the test from NAP, collect your saliva, and mail it in. Get your results a few weeks later online. |
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why would eating according to your physiology clash with meds, at all?
you will only be feeding your body the right food.
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Someone correct me if I am wrong and I hope I am but from what I onderstand is that Type A have low stomach acid therefore the BTD HAS A Lot of acid producing foods such as green vegetables and many friuts and my meds are designed to reduce my stomach acid. One seems to be fighting the other. Does my stomach need the extra acid to break down foods? |
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that Blood Type specific foods help to get the body's systems back on track so that the digestive system is working correctly and does not need help from meds. At least that was my impression when I first looked into the Blood Type Diet.
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you might be able to wean yourself away from meds as time goes by.....hang in there....... |
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Ken, yes that is my understanding but before that happens the meds may be counterproductive. but I still need them I think. |
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Anyone know good or bad about soy ice cream for type A icecream is not allowed but soy ice cream is different. |
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Ice cream or soy ice cream always just read the ingredients list to see if the food product is OK for you or not. |
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o'k I was just wondering if the processing part was an issue. Thanks |
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no, it s the gums and stabilizers and corn based sweeteners...etc. |
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has anyone mentioned enzymes to digest the food? And I must say Attila the Ghost has done some research! |
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Quoted from KimonoKat
Again, corn is an avoid for you. If you have an issue with particular oils, then avoid them. Understand that there are genetic differences with every person where, there might be a food that is classified as neutral/beneficial, yet, an individual may still have a reaction to that food.
Here's a good example. Cassandra, a blogger here, is a Type O secretor but she can't eat beef. She's tried it organically grown. She's tried it with digestive enzymes. She's tried it with no hormones. She's tried it as grass fed. Each and every time she gets a negative reaction eating beef. She came to the conclusion that she's allergic to this Type O beneficial food. Should she continue to try to eat it, just because Dr. D says it's a beneficial? No. For her unique individuality, it's an allergen food and she no longer eats it.
From what you are posting, it appears that you have an issue with all corn and corn byproducts. If so, then avoid them. It doesn't mean that corn and corn byproducts will be an avoid for all Type A's. But it certainly appears to be for you.
The fact that corn products are a problem for me is a given seeing that I am an A nonnie, so why do you continue to bring this up. The point that I am trying to make is that corn products are bad for all Type A's. |
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doesn t bother certain type A secretors I know....specially if it s organic corn. individuality and genetic heritage is key here. |
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has anyone mentioned enzymes to digest the food? And I must say Attila the Ghost has done some research!
Enzymes to digest what food? If you mean the build up in Dale P's stomach then yes I addressed this in my first post. |
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So lola , it s the gums and stabilizers and corn based sweeteners that are a problem. Is that correct. |
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all possible avoids, yes.....not exclusively those I mentioned.....there are more substances used in the food industry.....you need to learn to read the labels to detect hidden avoids. |
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I never read about any gums in avoids for type A. Did I miss something. |
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I never read about any gums in avoids for type A. Did I miss something.
Guar gum, carrageenan (actually a seaweed that's used as a gum/thickener) are avoids for all Type A's. As well asd Acacia which is gum arabic. |
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The fact that corn products are a problem for me is a given seeing that I am an A nonnie, so why do you continue to bring this up. The point that I am trying to make is that corn products are bad for all Type A's.
I don't have all the Health Series books, just the Diabetic one, and in that it suggests that all things corn related get moved from neutral to infrequent neutral (0-2 times per month) for A secretors. Can anyone tell me if this is true in the other Health Series books? |
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I don't have all the Health Series books, just the Diabetic one, and in that it suggests that all things corn related get moved from neutral to infrequent neutral (0-2 times per month) for A secretors. Can anyone tell me if this is true in the other Health Series books?
Without looking in all eight books for you, that's probably correct. It was the case for Type O secretors, in regards to items moving to the neutral infrequent category. They are almost exactly the same in all eight books. Very little differences between them in regards to categories. |
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