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dalep
Saturday, February 10, 2007, 1:12pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Hi Everyone, This is my first post and I am hoping someone can help me.  I have acid reflux really bad. I actually lost my voice for 6 months because of it 3 yearts ago.  I am taking nexium in the morning and Zantac before bed and also 2-3 Gaviscon after every meal.  I just started the BTD last week.  Peanuts seem to agravate my reflux so I will be stopping them as of today. I find the diet very limiting in foods that will help me maintain my weight. I have lost too much weight even before this diet. 140lbs at 5ft 8 in.  
Q1- What can I eat to gain weight that won't give me more gas.
Q2- What can I do about the meds, they seem to be counter productive to my diet. The meds reduce my stomach acid but the foods I eat are designed to increase my stomach acid.
Thanks
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Hi dalep,  Welcome to the forum!  

Please go to the member center - top right hand corner of your screen - and select an avator.  That way we know your blood type and can give more appropriate advice....

Here are  some general ideas for you anyway  

Following the diet as indicated for your type will reduce excess acid.  

As for weight gain you should follow the guidelines in LR4YT.  This contains portion and frequency guidelines for all food categories.  If you are trying to gain weight use the upper end of the portion and frequency guidelines.  Also, use weight training to build muscle which will help you gain healthy weight (muscle) as opposed to fat.

Add beneficial oils and nuts in your cooking - eg add to salads to add might to your meals.  

Most importantly - explore all the foods on the food lists which you are not familiar with.  That way you will focus on the large range of foods open to you rather than those you are not allowed to have
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dalep
Saturday, February 10, 2007, 2:24pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Hi koahiatamadl, I am type A

What can I do about the meds, they seem to be counter productive to my diet. The meds reduce my stomach acid but the foods I eat are designed to increase my stomach acid.
Thanks
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That I don't know  

My own experience is that I suffer with excessive stomach acid if I eat avoids.  However this was never severe enough to take any medication for it so I have no idea how these meds work and interact with your body!  There are more knowledgeable people on this forum and I am sure others can advise you better.  

Stuff to consider:

Eating right should reduce your excessive acid thus reduce/remove the need for your meds.  Thus I would focus on compliance with reliance on beneficial foods, using moderate amounts of neutrals and no avoids.  Your body is clearly not in balance at the moment and will need time to heal.  

To heal and get your body into balance the lifestylre recommendations in LR are equally important.  For As it is important to engage in some kind of relaxation practice like yoga/meditation or similar.

You have had this problem for years and it won't go away over night.  You should however find eating right and living right will remove the cause for your acid reflux
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KimonoKat
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Hi koahiatamadl, I am type A

What can I do about the meds, they seem to be counter productive to my diet. The meds reduce my stomach acid but the foods I eat are designed to increase my stomach acid.
Thanks


First off, you need to get your secretor status tested.  Once you do that, and are concentrating on bennies for your type, it's my opinion that you will be able to slowly reduce your medication.

I've got to run now, but I'll try to stop back in and give you more thoughts.


Knowledge is power.  SWAMI gives you the diet that will unlock the key to better health, and it's all based on your unique individuality.
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dalep
Saturday, February 10, 2007, 3:49pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I was eating bananas about 2-3 a day, corn oil,whole wheat bread,melon.
I thought they were good for me until I read ERFYT.
i did get this under control about a year ago  but I let it slip away again. Now I can't seem to get it back again. It took almost 3 months the last time for things to settle down. It has only been a month yet but I don't seem to be making much progress.

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koahiatamadl
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Weekend afternoons aren't the busiest time in terms of members popping in, but you are clearly keen for answers....  

Have you searched Heidi's archives - link on blogger page - for acid reflux?  I haven't tried searching for acid reflux but have found plenty good advice on a number of other topics and I am sure you would find food for thought there...

ps - I know you are new to the forum but beware of forum etiquette - capitalising is generally not tolerated by the moderators!  
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Alia Vo
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Welcome to the forum, dalep.

Focus on avoiding the big 'A' avoids; this will assist with your acid reflux: red meat, dairy, wheat, corn, potaoes, kidney beans.  

Keep your compliancy level very high and focus on tier two foods since you are trying to alleviate a health issue/challenge.  

Refer to the portion/frequency guidelines in LR and concentrate on the higher range numbers by focusing on the proteins, grains/starches, nuts/seeds, healthy fat options.

Feel free to add neutral foods more liberally for a wide range of nutrients.  Follow the exercise recommendations for blood type A's.

Alia


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I would follow food separation guidelines until things get back to normal and you can slowly wean off of the medication.

type As have low stomach acid per se, and your system needs to get back on balance.


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strange as this may sound, one of the big guns for nutrition (Julian Whitaker) thinks that acid reflux can be fixed with DGL (deglycyrrhizinated licorice)... so too does Dr D. Goggle his name and acid reflux ...

John


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dalep,
So sorry to hear of your discomfort.  I used to suffer terribly with that condition, but the BTD gradually took care of it completely.

In the meantime, there is a wonderful product that may help you transition off the meds, when you are ready:  CLICK



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dalep
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First of all , Sorry for the caps, Just bad typing skills, I realized after typing but with my carpal tunnel it is hard typing. No shouting meant.  I feel a bit embarrassed now I did know I was shouting.

Thanks everyone for your help it is very appreciated. Any more insights please let mr know. This is extremely serious for me.

I searched acid reflux but only got one article for type A

John where can you get that Licorice.

How do you get your Secretor statis checked and what does it tell you ,and what are bennies?

I will look into Meditation  or Yoga on Monday.

Peanuts seem to aggravate my refux.
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not to worry about the 'shouting'- damn cyber-purists!

anyways NAP sells it here: http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP016

hope yours is a good result

John


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Quoted from dalep
First of all , Sorry for the caps, Just bad typing skills, I realized after typing but with my carpal tunnel it is hard typing. No shouting meant.  I feel a bit embarrassed now I did know I was shouting.

Thanks everyone for your help it is very appreciated. Any more insights please let mr know. This is extremely serious for me.

I searched acid reflux but only got one article for type A

John where can you get that Licorice.

How do you get your Secretor statis checked and what does it tell you ,and what are bennies?

I will look into Meditation  or Yoga on Monday.

Peanuts seem to aggravate my refux.


No problem at all dalep    As far as secretor testing, what area of the world are you located in?  If you are in the US, you can purchase the test kit here.

If you are not in the US, I believe Lola has a list of other areas of the world where you can get it done.

Regarding peanuts.  How compliant to the A secretor diet are you now?  You may currently have an allergy to peanuts.  What many members have found is, that once they have been on the diet for a time, foods that were once problematic no longer cause a problem.

Give the diet time, and seriously consider gettng your secretor status tested.


Knowledge is power.  SWAMI gives you the diet that will unlock the key to better health, and it's all based on your unique individuality.
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dalep
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I live in Newfoundland Canada. I'm sure I can get it here.  Is ithe secretor test a self test or should I go to the hospital.
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here s info on secretor testing....


in Canada, you can call the store to order
them! 877-ABO-TYPE.
NAP store in Magog, Quebec.  The number is 819-868-1119.  
http://www.abovie.com/EnglishCanada/EnglishCanada.htm
or order them directly as well as any supplement in the ABOvie store:
http://www.abolife.com/Shopping/shopping.htm


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dalep,
Did you look into the Acid Soothe at the link I provided?  It stops my acid flare ups within minutes.  And it's very natural and pure.



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dalep
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Thanks for the links Lola
Victoria, I checked  it out .  Do you use Digest with it. Do you take any other Meds
It looks like an acid reducer or Is it like gaviscon and provides a foam barrier.
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I take Digest with meals, and take Acid Soothe as needed, only when I feel an acid flare.  (I need it very seldom now, but before BTD, it saved my esophagus!)  Digest is not required for everyone, but I have a very delicate digestive system, and it is the root of most of any health issues that I have.  

Acid Soothe contains enzymes which digest the offending substances that are fermenting and/or reacting.  It also contains slippery type of herbs that coat the tissues.  I know that it doesn't reduce the ability of the body to digest.  In other words, it is not like Tums anti acid.



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dalep
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Sounds Good Victoria.  I am trying to decide if I can stop some of my meds because it seems to be interfering with my BTD. tHE Meds are decreasing my stomach acid which is low in most typeA  anyway  but the diet is trying to increase my acid. It just seems like it's conter-productive to take the meds.
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I'd just like to say that I was the TUMS QUEEN before BTD. When I eliminated my O avoids, the acid reflux simply went away after a time. I'm sure the makers of Tums are wondering why their income went down so much. .
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I'd just like to say that I was the TUMS QUEEN before BTD. When I eliminated my O avoids, the acid reflux simply went away after a time. I'm sure the makers of Tums are wondering why their income went down so much. .


 That's so funny, Maggie!  But I'm sure it wasn't funny when you were having to eat all those Tums!



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Sounds Good Victoria.  I am trying to decide if I can stop some of my meds because it seems to be interfering with my BTD. tHE Meds are decreasing my stomach acid which is low in most typeA  anyway  but the diet is trying to increase my acid. It just seems like it's conter-productive to take the meds.


What you are saying makes sense.  But of course, I hope you will make changes gradually and pay close attention to how you are doing.  After stopping meds, it's not uncommon to swing to the other extreme, so you should allow transition to occur gently.

BTD will help you regulate your body on all levels, and for sure, it can take time in some instances.  Some things improve immediately, but chronic conditions can be slower.



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dalep
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My problem is that since my BTD  I feel worse because I  am fighting the meds. Maybe if I split my pills in half I would see a difference,

I have damage to my esophagus so it will take time to heal. Will it heal on it's own or do I need the nexium

Maggie how long did it take you to feel good again
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If Maggie was the Tums queen, I was the King!  Since I started on BTD, I haven't had any heartburn.  I take Protonix for the hiatal hernia/acid reflux.  Before BTD, I would need to take Tums along with the meds.  I must say that the Protonix seems to have helped the esophogeal spasms (or whatever was causing things - food, pills - to stick in my throat and occasionally block the airway).  I can swallow and not wonder if it will go down.

Ken
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