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ArtyMiss
Wednesday, January 24, 2007, 3:27pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I am sure that there is an answer to this question in here somewhere, but as a newbie, I thought it quicker to ask.

As a Type O, I can see that I should aviod all Dairy products, but butter seems allowed. Anyone know why?

OH and I started 4 days ago  (He is a B) after meeting with friends in Florida. We have come back to the UK and everyone we have told about this is really enthusiastic!

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ArtyMiss, warm welcome to BTD and the forum!!
I can't give you an answer really on why butter is allowed, but someone else will be along who can. I would like to suggest making it into ghee tho. It is very good for us in that form. Very simple to make as well.  
Put  your butter in a baking dish (with a cover), set oven to 350, set your timer for an hour. Go do whatever your little heart desires. When timer goes off, check to see that your butter is clear. I cook mine at least 10 min longer as I like mine a little darker, gives it a dif (better - to me) flavor. The stuff on top, skim off (this can be used to flavor other things). Strain the liquid, throw the stuff from this away. Ghee can be left on the counter, but be sure not to put wet or dirty utensils in it. When I say dirty, I mean as in - you use a spoon to dip some ghee, use the same spoon to stir your oatmeal - do not use this same spoon to dip more ghee, get a clean one.  Ghee is very tasty!!




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ArtyMiss
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Thanks for the tip! I did go & buy organic butter to try to be as good as possible.

How long does the Ghee last once made?

I hate that when someone uses a dirty knife in the butter. I make OH have his own butter tub as he always ends up with crumbs in there!
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ArtyMiss...Welcome to the forum and the BTD way of life.  I don't have an answer either for the butter question.  Tried looking it up in my books, but can't seem to find anything.

I am with italybound and the ghee.  Wonderful stuff.    'Like putting candy on your veggies.'  And sooooo easy to make.  You can buy it in some countries already made.  Not Canada...as far as I know anyhow.

Great that you are both doing the BTD way of life and that you are spreading the word.   Any more questions just ask...someone will be here to help you out.

Good luck and keep us posted.

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Nice to have another UKite aboard - we seem to be a bit thin on the ground.  ASDA sell ghee but it is more expensive and so simple to make it's not worth buying ready made.  I put off making it for ages - now I wonder why!
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Hi Rustyc,

Isn't it hard to get all the right stuff here in the UK? I have managed to get some stuff from Waitrose & Tesco, but would welcome any shopping tips (especially online ones!). Have you found the sprouted wheat bread anywhere?
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Welcome ArtyMiss,

It's interesting that Live Right doesn't clarify which category of dairy that butter falls into.  Would it fall into the Milk and Yogurt category?  Here, you have 4-6oz for men 2-5oz for women & children and depending on if you are African, Caucasian or Asian, you can have this category 0-3 times per week.  It doesn't seem to me, that we would be allowed 5-6oz of butter a day, which leaves the cheese category.

Cheese, for Type O is 3oz men; 2oz women and children.  Now, depending on if you are a secretor or nonnie, and depending on your race, you can have cheese 0-2 times per week.  This seems like a more reasonable category to attach butter to.

So, cheese (and probably butter), in very small amounts and not on a daily basis appear to be okay for O secretors, and less so for O non-secretors.

However, when we look at any one of the Health Series books, ~for those targeting a specific illness, and trying to get well~ where food is broken down even further into five categories, (Super Beneficial, Beneficial, Neutral: Allowed Frequently, Neutral, Allowed Infrequently, and Avoid) butter gets downgraded to Neutral: Allowed Infrequently.  This category of foods in the Health Series books, Dr. D recommends eating no more than twice a month, or ideally, eliminate all together.

Taking into consideration that Ghee is extracted from butter and contains a good amount of butyric acid~an ideal food for the good bacteria in the colon~it stands to reason that one of the reasons that butter is a neutral is the fact that it, too, contains butyric acid.  But it also contains milk solids which are avoids for Type O's.  This is probably why the neutral classification.

I recommend reading up about Ghee on the forum, and on the web site itself.  Dr. D recommends Ghee for constipation in Type O's, and it has many healing benefits.

How to make Ghee.


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try this for compliant bread in the uk
http://www.artisanbread.ltd.uk/

the churning process in butter gets rid of all the whey, this is the reason it is a neutral, as well as certain types of cheese.


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Thanks for the link Lola. Unfortunately the site doesn't seem to be working right now. But I'll check back later.
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sorry to hear that!

you could try pming Dr Tom Greenfield, he might have the answer....
http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/24/archives/


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Quoted from rustyc
 I put off making it for ages - now I wonder why!


, me too rustyc!!  I was almost 'afraid'.     Now, I think how silly that was.....I have it made all the time. I almost cringe if I have to use butter.    
Gotta get back to having some melted ghee first thing in the AM.  I just read it is good for constipation. Thanks for that info KK.    Could be one reason why I"m having the persistant headache.  

ArtyMiss, the ghee will last for quite a long time. However, I doubt you'll ever have to worry about it going bad, as you'll prob have it gobbled up long before .  



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OK I admit I am one of those afraid to make ghee....silly me. Haven't done it yet, but buy it at WF.  I bet I'll kick myself, or like the V-8 commercial, slap my forehead and say "I coulda been making ghee!"
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Well, I've been avoiding mentioning this before, but janey-O you've given me courage!

I make ghee everyday in the microwave,

I take about 2-3 TBS of butter, put it in a pyrex measuring cup and microwave it for about 2.5 minutes, or a bit longer.

Yummy, and I don't have to worry about ruining a pound of butter.


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OK I admit I am one of those afraid to make ghee....silly me. Haven't done it yet, but buy it at WF.  I bet I'll kick myself, or like the V-8 commercial, slap my forehead and say "I coulda been making ghee!"


That brand that WF carries in their refrigerated dairy section is, (imho) cr@p.  Even thou it says it's organic.  We now get our ghee from Indian grocery stores.  Way, way better ghee, and 1/2 the cost.  I avoided making it myself too for a long time, but even this cooking challenged person who has burned up too many pans to count just boiling water has mastered making ghee at home.

Low, low heat is the key!


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Quoted from KimonoKat
Low, low heat is the key!


Unless you're doing it in the oven, then be sure to use 350.



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MyraBee, I hate to sound moralising, but if I were you I'd avoid the use of microwaves as much as possible... Especially for regular everyday use. Five minutes of searching turns up links such as these. The last one is probably the most reliable, as it's from Nexus magazine.

http://www.gallawa.com/microtech/mwdanger.html

http://www.relfe.com/microwave.html

http://www.mercola.com/article/microwave/hazards.htm

http://www.mercola.com/article/microwave/hazards2.htm

There is probably a post about this somewhere, now I think about it...


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Thanks, Esmerelda--I know you are right!

In fact, I've avoided even owning a microwave until this past year--but it has kept me from running out for a quick bite of fast food.




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the straining part...what do you use? (just pour the clarified butter off , I hope?)
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the straining part...what do you use? (just pour the clarified butter off , I hope?)


Whatever works best for you.  Some use paper coffee filters, some use many layers of cheese cloth.  We use a metal coffee filter.


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thanks, I'm ready to try it.
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I use a paper coffee filter here, the unbleached type. I even bought an enamel cannister for my ghee.
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the straining part...what do you use? (just pour the clarified butter off , I hope?)


I use an unbleached coffee filter 'nestled' in a big strainer. Then I pour into a pretty yellow bowl that I bought just for my ghee.

KK, where did you get that metal coffee filter?  I remember when we visited this subject before that you said Mr KK said there was a certain one (size hole) you/we should use. Thanks!  

jayneyO - do it!!!  Hurry......let us know how it turns out..........you'll LOVE it!!  And wonder why ya didn't do it sooner. I know I did!!





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I use an unbleached coffee filter 'nestled' in a big strainer. Then I pour into a pretty yellow bowl that I bought just for my ghee.

KK, where did you get that metal coffee filter?  I remember when we visited this subject before that you said Mr KK said there was a certain one (size hole) you/we should use. Thanks!  

jayneyO - do it!!!  Hurry......let us know how it turns out..........you'll LOVE it!!  And wonder why ya didn't do it sooner. I know I did!!



We buy the coffee filters that go in the coffee maker machines. They are a metal mesh, gold color, and work pretty good.  Through his various work related catalogs, (I think "GRAINGER") he found some mesh screen that's even smaller but they are not as easy to clean as the coffee filters.  They are about $10.00 each at Bed Bath & Beyond.


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my ghee is real easy to filter once it has settled to cool .....the solids fall to the bottom of the pan, and pouring the pure melted ghee into a glass container is a breeze......a conventional strainer works for me, to catch any solid burned chunk happening to try and squeeze in.


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A natural, unbleached paper towel in a big metal strainer works just fine, too.  I don't eat any of the stuff that settles to the bottom or rises to the top.  



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