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dancer
Sunday, January 21, 2007, 2:44pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hello everyone!
and Happy New Year 2007!
I've a wonderful  information to share with all of you who know me and my past health problem.. : On 30th December 2006 I've had my period again  after 13 years of lack and block! I'm very very happy!
Now my weight is 44 kg and I'm improving and I'm feeling better day after day!
I'm very happy to have discovered BTD on my life !

Now I've a question x you...
I need your gentle opinion and suggestion about my dear friend Sri Rohininandana, a  Shaolin Monk, Master, trainer and coach of traditional Kung-fu , Wu-Shu ,Qi-Gong, Tai-Chi, Yoga and  Bhakti Yoga , World Champion of  Shaolin Kung-fu in 2000.

He is type 0+.
He has started to be TOTALLY VEGETARIAN at 12 years old.
He completely follow VEDIC TRADITION  to take care of spirit, body, food and mind
Now he is 40.
He is very athletic. His health is good.
He is very very sensitive.
He doesn't eat any animal sources of protein.
He doesn't eat any red meat, poultry, fish, eggs and dairy containing rennet (caglio).

He is vegetarian because he deeply LOVE all animals and creatures and he prefers to die himself rather than kill some animals..
His choice to be vegetarian is total and definitive, for ethic and spiritual reasons.
So. his diet is :
fruits+vegetables+mozzarella , pasta and bread, rice,peas and beans.
When he eats with me I cook beneficial beans (azyky or fava or black-eye peas) and while I eat my red meat or fish , I give him manna bread or kamut/spelt pasta...

Have you some suggestions to give to him ?
I don't want to change him  ( I know  very well that he will never return to eat any animals meat!) but I'd like to help him to improve his diet

many thanks for all your help!

ciao!
mn


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Sunday, January 21, 2007, 3:27pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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dancer...Happy New Year to you and glad to hear that your health and weight are going in the direction that you want it to with BTD way of life.  Best of luck to you.

Your friend Sri...what does he do for the essential oils like olive oil, ghee, flaxseed and omega from fish?  

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Really glad to hear about your improved health! I wish you continued success on the BTD.

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He has started to be TOTALLY VEGETARIAN at 12 years old.
He is very very sensitive.
He doesn't eat any animal sources of protein.
He doesn't eat any red meat, poultry, fish, eggs and dairy containing rennet (caglio).

He may be have too much copper and to little zinc.
THE COPPER PERSONALITY

                       There is a high copper personality.  Positive traits include a warm, caring, sensitive, emotional nature, often with artistic orientation and a child-like quality.  Often high-copper people are young-looking.  Many traditional feminine traits are associated with copper such as softness, gentleness and intuitiveness.

VEGETARIAN DIETS

                       Excess copper interferes with zinc, a mineral needed to make digestive enzymes.  Too much copper also impairs thyroid activity and the functioning of the liver.  If severe enough, a person will become an obligatory vegetarian.  This means they are no longer able to digest meat very well.  Conversely, if one becomes a vegetarian for other reasons, most likely one's copper level will increase.  Vegetarian proteins are higher in copper, and lower in zinc.
                       At times, the vegetarian orientation is health-producing.  In many people, however, restricted diets do not work well.  Fatigue, spaciness and other symptoms begin to appear.  Many people, including the author, felt they were becoming more spiritual on a vegetarian diet, when in fact it was just copper poisoning!  The taste for meat often returns when copper is brought into better balance.
                       Some people with high copper dislike all protein.  They crave high-carbohydrate diets.  Protein feels heavy or causes other symptoms.  Eating protein stimulates glandular activity.  This releases stored copper which causes the symptoms.  However, these individuals usually need to eat protein.  The symptoms will eventually disappear.
                       Copper-toxic individuals may also be drawn to sweets or salty foods due to adrenal insufficiency.  Some sea salt is often beneficial.  Sweets, including fruit juices, provide a temporary lift but may worsen the condition.

Therefore, I would recommend supplementing with zinc and if he doesn't want to do that then I would encourage him to eat plenty of pumpkin seeds, which is the best source of zinc in the plant world. I also encourage you to read the rest of the article that I quoted.
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He is vegetarian because he deeply LOVE all animals and creatures and he prefers to die himself rather than kill some animals..

That is sad.
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Have you some suggestions to give to him ?

Type O Vegetarian

Any form of compliance with the blood type diet will be better for him then ignoring it completely.  That said the most important things he needs to do are try to avoid all forms of wheat and corn.

Recognize that he would be better off to limit your consumption of foods in both grain and legume categories to a few servings a week.  For type Os foods in these categories are better consumed less versus more.  However, if he won't eat any form of animal protein, then he will need to eat more or the beneficial and neutral legumes. In general type Os need to limit consumption of starches to do well. If you want to be a vegetarian then eat a lot more vegetables instead of the grains.

You might want to read the following information:
http://www.veg-soc.org/html/articles/blood-type-nutrition.html

There are some supplements that will be helpful, such as Coleus forskolli, carnitine, taurine, threonine, and maybe other amino acids and as previously indicated zinc. Getting him to take a good amino acid blend supplement would probably be really good for him. but it probably should include the non-essential amino acids in addition to the essential ones.


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Just wondering if your friend actually wishes to change his diet?  Your wish to improve his diet is very well intentioned but what are his wishes?
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Legumes + seeds
Legumes + nuts
Legumes + dairy
Grains + legumes
Grains + dairy
these are complete protein combos for him to have present whenever he eats his legumes, grains..etc


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As for getting more aminos and not able to deal with starches/carbs. Pre-soaking all beans and grains for the enzymes will go a long way and/or including sprouts.

Things like Maitake are also very "filling" for not eating animal-based protein.
And for not eating animal-foods for long-periods there is some merit to avoid the onion/garlic veggies.

I question the statement about avoiding all dairy/rennet, but still eating Mozzarella.

Also, culturing at home to make your own Tofu and Tempeh from other materials than Soy would be good. Nutritionally and for a variety of food choices.

The Shugendou/Yamabushi (Japanese Mountain 'Priests') have beliefs along these lines as well.

Getting to learn your local wild edibles/bushtucker will also not only be diversifying, but also they are nutrient dense when compared to domesticated food crops...


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dancer, great testimony on your health issues!

If the Monk doesnt have health issues, he can eat brown rice. Dont forget starchy vegetables, nuts & seeds as well. These are good fillers for vegetarians. Dont forget the very beneficial ghee.

Thank you for posting! I'm dealing with the challenges of being an O vegetarian who eats eggs...but soon that too will stop!


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dancer,

I am so pleased to hear about your much improved health since starting this lifestyle.  

Alia


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Rice protein powder anyone?  It's processed, but could help with protein needs.
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dancer,

I am so pleased to hear about your much improved health since starting this lifestyle.  

Alia


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For variety in his meals, hemp protein and soy protein powders might be other options for protein uptake.

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put him on a b12 supplement with some folate in it since he is not eating any from a good source, like meat...this will also improve his brain function...I don't know how I would function mentally without meat


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Helllo everyone!
Sorry for my late but I got a bad flu last week!
Now I'm very well again! I'm feeling very strong and full of energy!
MANY THANKS FOR ALL YOUR GENTLE SUGGESTIONS!! You are all very WONDERFUL, as always!

About my dear friend Rohininandana..
I'm totally sure that HE DOESN'T WANT TO CHANGE HIS VEGETARIAN DIET .
He is vegetarian for spiritual , personal aen etich reasons and he doesn't want to eat any kind of animal flesh.

I profoundly respect his decisions and , because I love him and I want to help him to stay alwas well, I'm giving him some basic BTD informations and I'm suggesting him to AVOID the worst avoid in the 0 plan and to add the more beneficial he can fronm the type 0 list.

I'm suggesting him to use more soy products instead of dairy...: soy milk + tofu+ soy yogurt + tempeh ...
And I'll suggest him to take some supplements you have so gently suggested to me! ( ex: vit.b12, (thanks Mike!), or taurina, carnitina, zync..ect ( thanks Modon!)

CIAO CIAO CIAO!
all the best to you!!!

friendly
dancer


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don t forget the Coleus (Coleus forskohlii), standardized extract....


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