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simeen
Friday, January 12, 2007, 8:17pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Does any know if "avoid" foods are ok for external use. I am type AB and coconut is an avoid, but I use coconut oil for external use on my dry skin. Is that ok!
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Food values do not apply to topical use.


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Does any know if "avoid" foods are ok for external use. I am type AB and coconut is an avoid, but I use coconut oil for external use on my dry skin. Is that ok!


The only time an avoid could be a potential problem when used externally is when they are in a trans-dermal base.  Only creams that are in a trans-dermal base are absorbed into the blood stream.

Could be wrong but that is how I understand it...

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and ....until it is not proven that you are the same like me.....we, the royal A2B may eat coconut
and I just LOVE it



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I eat coconut oil too and apply it to my skin, the A2-ness in me is quite a joy



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Does any know if "avoid" foods are ok for external use. I am type AB and coconut is an avoid, but I use coconut oil for external use on my dry skin. Is that ok!



I was wondering the same thing, but more specifically about things like toothpaste, mouthwash, gum, etc...







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I'm glad you brought this point up, erict998.

I'm not overly concerned with putting natural, wholesome avoid topical products on my body and hair.  Everything that I currently use is very pure, organic, and to the best of my knowledge, they do not contain harmful chemicals.  

However, with items such as toothpaste and dental floss, I do scrutinze the product labels more carefully as these products come in direct contact with our mouth and can more easily end up in our digestive tract by accident or even little miniscule amounts over continual use, day after day.

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The only time an avoid could be a potential problem when used externally is when they are in a trans-dermal base.  Only creams that are in a trans-dermal base are absorbed into the blood stream.

Could be wrong but that is how I understand it...

Sue.


Hi Sue,
Could you please explain this statement; I do not understand your defintion of trans-dermal base.  

For instance, what products, brands, or specific examples would fall into this category?

Thanks Sue.

Alia


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Thanks Alia!  That confirms my suspicion then, which means I have to start looking for a new brand of toothpaste  


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Or just stop using toothpaste and try a variety of other things like soap. You might want to check on other recent threads on tooth soap and dental care.


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I believe Sue means by transdermal, creams which can cross the barrier, like for example:
bioidentical hormone creams....etc.


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::tisk::  And to think that this whole time I grew up believing that having my mouth washed out with soap was a BAD thing!  


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Hi Sue,
Could you please explain this statement; I do not understand your defintion of trans-dermal base.  

For instance, what products, brands, or specific examples would fall into this category?

Thanks Sue.

Alia


Hi Alia,

Yes Lola is correct.  I was specifically thinking about bio-identical hormone cream, because I use it, by being in a trans-dermal base it is able to pass into the blood stream but bypasses the major organs, ie liver and stomach.

I have been suprised how many products are available this way, usually obtained from a compounding chemist.

I do not think that most hand or body creams are in a trans-dermal base however I always double check labels and do research before buying any product.  

Manufactuers frequently change things for "our own good" so I thought it a good point to raise here.

Sue.



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I have been thinking about posing this same question for a long time--glad there's already interest!  My mom has also been concerned that the castor seed oil in her lip balms was causing the dryness and irritation around her mouth (that was the only common ingredient she found among the glosses that she believed caused the problem).  Now that she's borrowing my books, I can't verify her claims, but she told me that O's should avoid this oil.  Apparently we O's should also avoid aloe, but it's in so many things (including every natural mouthwash I've seen--so be aware).

There are so many irritating skin care ingredients out there, it's hard to keep up (so I follow this woman's research: http://www.cosmeticscop.com/learn/dictionary.asp?TYPE=MAIN  Perhaps it's most important to avoid irritating ingredients as a whole at first, and then pare down according to your skin's preferences from there.  I definitely don't trust anything just because it's advertized as "natural" or "organic"--it doesn't necessarily mean it's good for your skin, just like eating an organic orange wouldn't be great for an O like me either!  

At least my skin has shown a great deal of improvement when I follow the BTD.  That's a major step that I couldn't accomplish with diligent, well-researched skin care alone.

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aloe should be fine topically, unless you have an allergic reaction to it......


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I thought only non-secretor O's could eat coconut oil.  Or is the type base dictionary up for revision?

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coconut oil is an avoid for O secretors....correct


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Right, but the ABs and As above seem to happy to consume it--that's why I'm confused.  
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I eat coconut oil too and apply it to my skin, the A2-ness in me is quite a joy

Laura, If you are an A2 why don't you indicate that under your avatar?



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Right, but the ABs and As above seem to happy to consume it--that's why I'm confused.  

Coconut is neutral for type A2B. I am not sure about type A2.

Laura, Did Dr. D tell you that coconut is neutral for type A2? It is not indicated in LR4YT.



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I have a Type A friend that I chase around the block with a raw steak.  

She runs and screams, and I laugh in cruel delight.

Is that a valid example of an "external use"?
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O!  Thanks!  Where would one go to find out more about these subtypes and their diets?  (Mere curiosity)
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The LR4YT book is the only book that lists the diet changes for the A2 and MM subtypes.


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about subtypes
subtypes MM in A
http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/subtype/subtype5.htm
MINOR BLOOD GROUPS AND OTHER POLYMORPHISMS


and in LR4YT on page 356 and the Encyclopedia
on page 43.


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Ronagon,
that would be a new testing modality........should definately be applied!!!

besides, it is a good workout all in one!!


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Lola,

Yes, I agree.  

It's entirely possible that we've just created a new sport for the summer Olympics:  

STEAK-CHASING.


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similar to the greyhound races........all bets are on!!


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Or steak massage. it won't hurt her cuz its not transdermal.....or is it?
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