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Tina
Wednesday, December 20, 2006, 2:14pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Very good, guys.  Wonderful insights and info that I needed.  I do like to follow the BTD very much, as it is accurate for me.  After all is said and done, I do feel it seems to be the portion SIZES that are most important to follow.  Not eating too much protein AT ONCE is probably when it becomes a problem.  

Is eating 4 or 5 smalls meals throughout the day a good way to eat?

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Yes!  it is very good for your body and easy on your digestive tract and spleen



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As a type O I find that I do fine with 3 meals a day.


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I eat 5-6 small meals a day. Meat for breakfast w/veg, salad and nuts for the next meal, meat w/veg at lunch, salad and seeds next, then a fish meal for dinner w/veg and fruit later in the evening. This works the best for me and I am at the weight I want to be. I lost a great deal of weight with this plan in the last 6 months. My problem comes if I let myself get too hungry and then I overeat protein and it messes me up for the rest of the day. For me, lots of water inbetween eating is a must.
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I do well with eating breakfast, lunch, dinner, and 2 snacks within a single day.  Most of the food I eat daily consists of alot of fresh vegetables and salads.  I drink one cup of green tea daily and drink lots of water apart from my meals.

I believe eating 5-6 smaller meals is recommened in LR under the Lifestyle Strageties for blood type A's.  

Alia


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I do best with 4 meals. Early breakfast, early lunch, afternoon snack and dinner.

Last time I did very well for a long strech of time I did:

Breakfsat: fruit, essene bread/ghee/marmalade and green tea.
Lunch: 5-6 oz fish and salad or eggs and salad
Snack: fruit only or with nuts
Dinner: 5-6 oz red meat and vegetables.

1 liter of sparkling mineral water and 1 liter of regular mineral water.

Other than the ghee, marmalade, some types of fish, the eggs, and some vegetables the rest was all beneficial. I had no avoids.

I went slighly over LR4YT weekly portions in 2 slices of essene, olive oil, and slighly on the fish.

I lost like 6-8pounds in 15 days and I felt sensational. I was on ideal BMI before starting so I did not need to lose much weight (therefore losing is harder).


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so the question is why did you stop???



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Quoted from lkpetrolino
so the question is why did you stop???


Could be any of the following:
A) vice/addiction/habit - aka pleasure atained from wheat, coffee, dairy, sugar
B) I feel inferior on a restrained diet
C) Concerned that with this type of eating i am going to spoil what isn't
D) Too much work for the return
E) Constancy is not one of my virtues
F) I have no idea why
G) All of the above
H) None of the above.




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Of course all of the usual excuses, except for D) that one stuck out

Too much work for the return..........

TOO MUCH WORK FOR THE RETURN

too much work for your health, your well being, your spirit.

too much work for your enjoyment of life, for you ability to truely exist and get a bit closer to your potential

too much work for the return

gee Suzanne, you must of been cooking some pretty extrodinary meals



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Quoted from koahiatamadl


Anything really - leftover veg from the night before?

It is very much a case of getting your head round the idea that grain is not needed for breakfast  or any other meal...and that breakfast need not include foods which you grew up to consider as breakfast...imho.

Once you have achieved that mental switch the question is no longer one of substitutes but one of more or less appealing combinations of food, which makes life a lot less complicated...  


I am working on overcoming this one right now.
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Quoted from lkpetrolino
gee Suzanne, you must of been cooking some pretty extrodinary meals


I was on holiday and all meals were prepared for me

You are actually quite right. Thanks for the wake up call

Actually, in all honesty i belive it is A). VICE, PLEASURE which boils down to ADDICTION (consuming agaist one's will). Well, after all Dr. D does mention us O's have a tendency for pleasure seeking substances. He must have included a peep through my window when he arrived at that conclusion .




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Okay, here's what I typically have in a day.  I know that ACV is an avoid, but I love it and it is the raw kind.  I really find it helpful in keeping me well and regular.  My other iffy thing is I do eat raw honey, which I like and feel is good, but I probably overdo it at times, as sugars of any kind tend to make me overdo, but really not too much though...

A.m. first thing,  big glass of warm water, like 16 oz with Bragg's ACV 1 tsp and 1 tsp raw honey.

Bfast= 1 egg with yolk and one or two more whites added to it, scrambled or sauteed in olive oil, just a little, bowl of frozen fruit like blueberries, just half cup or less, handful of walnuts OR 1 slice brown rice sourdough (WHICH I HAVE NOT HAD IN TWO DAYS NOW, GUYS!!!!)  Just had the walnuts instead

After workout, a banana and water

Lunch- canned tuna or sardines and salad with some  pumpkin seeds on top of salad (dressing is acv with little raw honey and little olive oil with spices) celery or carrot sticks with it.

Afternoon snack:  handful of walnuts and dried fruit like figs or prunes, maybe pear or berries

Dinner:  some type of meat or poultry or beans or soup, salad, and side veggie like cooked spinach, broccoli or something like that.  No grains or starchy veggies at lunch or dinner, only at breakfast, if even then!

Nighttime:  herbal tea with raw honey, like 1 tsp.  Dandelion or red raspberry so far.

I ordered some bison and ostrich today and may do that for breakfast some days instead of eggs, but I LOVE eggs though.  Would meat be okay at night?  Anyway, what do you think?  I am exercising every day too very well, but I want to lose about 5 to 10 pounds to be at my best size I think.  What would help this?  Any probs with the diet?  Too much fat with the nuts or seeds, or too much honey?
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try some vegetable glycerine instead of the honey.


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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Where can I get vegetable glycerine, and what is it made of?

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Quoted Text
Heidi:
Glycerine is properly called "glycerol." It's found all over the place in
plant & animal fats in the form of glycerides. Now: an alcohol does not
contain the lectin present in the substance from which it was processed.
Glycerine is plain old CH2OHCHOHCH2OH, nothing more, nothing less. This is
also not the kind of 'alcohol' found in beer, wine & spirits ~~ that's
"ethanol". So whether your glycerine comes from palm oil, coconut oil, or
whatever: as long as it is labelled as 100% pure glycerine and OK for
ingestion, it is safe, safe, safe for everybody!

No matter what its source, it's going to be CH2OHCHOHCH2OH plain and simple.
No room for a lectin in there
It is a BLESSING for nonsecretors, especially we near-sweetener less Os. Taste
s just like sugar, works like a charm in baked goods (even adds a bit of
leavening), and actually helps normalize our metabolisms. See the link to the
Harvest Moon page, above, for the 16-oz bottles.


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What are Seacure Capsules?
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sounds like seaweed ......iodine for thyroid function?


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Honey is an avoid for 0 non secretors. So you're having two avoids more than once a day. I started this program to get my asthma, allergies, arthritis, depression and anxiety under control, not to lose weight, although I sure needed to. It just wasn't a priority. It was when I became fully compliant (well, ok, 90-95%) that weight just melted off of me. It was totally amazing to me. And I might add, to everyone with whom I come in contact on a frequent basis. They find it hard to believe that I'm not starving myself. Except they see how much I eat. I do not deprive myself. I try to stick with super beneficials, beneficials, and neutrals "allowed frequently"(although more of the first two) and that's when I feel and look my best. Each time I choose a neutral "allowed infrequently" or an avoid, I know that there will be adverse consequences. I will still have an occasional Starbucks espresso, with about a tablespoon or two of half and half and a sprinkle of cinnamon because I love the flavor of the espresso, and I also know that my lungs and sinuses will be adversely affected, as will my adrenals. I'm glad I only get near a Starbucks a couple of times a month, so I'm not tempted more often. I guess when I'm ready to be totally compliant, I will be.
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Thanks Maggie.  I know you are right!  I have GOT to get off the honey, if not completely off, then cut down to like 1 tbsp in the a.m.  I have just read that the raw kind is so different than the heated and so good for a person.  I read a thread on it one time that said it would be good for non-secretors if it was raw, but I don't know where I saw that.  Anyway, I am definitely going to get some veg. glycerine.

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Tina,
Keep in mind that unless Dr. D posted it, everything else you read on this Forum is posted by people who are doing their best to make educated choices, nothing more.  If Dr. D. said that honey is an avoid for your blood type, please don't assume that raw honey is ok because one of our posters believes it to be true.



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Good point, Victoria.  I am drastically cutting back on the raw honey.  I plan to get some veg. glycerine asap.  Thank you for all your wonderful input.  

I read somewhere that too many sweets suppress the immune system, even fruits.  I seem to have been getting more colds lately, and I am thinking this is contributing, the over abundance of honey...

Blessings,
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I also feel that sweets are not helpful for the immune system.  I'd stick with beneficial fruits in the quantities that Dr. D. recommends in LR4YT.



Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.
Let me not pass you by in quest
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Quoted from funkymuse
What are Seacure Capsules?

You can read about Seacure HERE

The short answer is it is good for intestinal healing.



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Also, got started working out again every day except Sundays for going on 4 weeks now.  I am loving it and just feel so much stronger and better.  It is sooooooooooo true that O's need that exercise.  I think especially nonnies!


Yup.

The fish thing is so true, too, especially SALMON.

Forgot to say before that I have had astounding results with fresh grapefruit.  If I am smack dab in the middle of a carb craving, and I eat a half a grapefruit (you don't even need to eat the whole one, but you might as well go for it...very hydrating!), the craving is GONE.  I still say salmon is the single best thing to pull me out of carb cravings, but grapefruit works at lightening speed for immediate cessation.  Salmon also works very quickly, and the results (balancing my brain chemistry) are more long-lasting, but it doesn't necessarily happen IMMEDIATELY as with grapefruit.  I still need the salmon to get me on solid ground and keep me there if I've been unsteady for a while and off track, but the grapefruit is great for instantly stopping me from overeating.  Amazing.  The right food in the right situation for the right person is quite powerful.


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Quoted from Susana

B) I feel inferior on a restrained diet


Hi Susana,

I hope what I share may assist you: Perhaps if you try to rethink this way of eating in a manner that is not restrained/rigid/limiting---your problem will be alleviated.  I believe the BTD allows us a large framework or parameters to make individual choices on a daily basis.  

One does not need to be 100% perfect or compliant if that is not one's intent.  To successfully work for the long run, one has to make this lifestyle manageable for them in an approachable sense; every day may be different.

Alia


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