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Tina
Friday, December 15, 2006, 1:22am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Can anyone direct me to a safe appetitie suppressant?  I just would like to try something because no matter how hard I try, it seems I am still eating too much, healthily I must say, but still just too much and it is so hard to scale back for me.  I can do it, but I have to think about it constantly.  

I am exercising every day, doing well on that and toning up a lot, but I want to lose 5-10 pounds around my middle.  I am doing plenty of cardio, aerobics, and now started some core stuff.  I am also strength training 3 times a week.  I love that, but my husband and I were wondering if an appetite suppressant would be a good idea.  We just have too much at our disposal, which is a blessing in this country, and yet it is soooooo hard to stay at a healthy weight.

Any ideas for safe herbs/supplements for suppressing appetite?  I am O-nonnie and hubby is B sec.  

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L-glutamine to increase levels of
serotonin, as well as L-tyrosine can regulate your appetite.

how are your estrogen levels?
taking 1-2 capsules of the herb maca
helps normalize estrogen levels and also regulates your appetite.
http://www.emofree.com/
a 'system' of focusing on a specific
issue (cravings, smoking, compulsive eating) and tapping
in a particular sequence on specific
acupressure points on the body.......these are safe methods to help you control certain food issues.

http://www.dadamo.com/forum/archive5/config.pl?read=11740
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Thanks Lola,
I think I should try the maca.  Do you take it?  

I do take Seacure which has amino acids in it, and I think that helps a lot.  What about chorella?  Is this a good thing for O nons to take?  I read it helps with appetite suppression.

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If you eat a lot of protein, for instance red meat, it will act as a natural appetite suppressor. It will also help you lose weight.


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An herb called Jiaogulan (Gynostemma) is an appetite modulator, also tones the metabolism so that you burn calories better.  Available at the health food stores under the Plum Flower brand, and from the Dragon Herbs company, out of California:  tollfree, 888-558-6642

Chlorella is good for all blood types, and I think it does supress the appetite.  It is so rich in nutrients, it most likely lets the body know it doesn't really need a whole lot else!  



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no, I do not take maca......perhaps if symptoms surface, I might........


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Thanks guys.  I'm just really concerned, MoDon, of eating too much protein.  I have read it is not good for a person to eat too much.  I know bodybuilders do it though, and I used to as well when I was on the SCD diet, which is no grain, no sugar, and I was thin, but I just don't know about it.  Moneywise, protein like that is expensive!  Except for the eggs I get, which I eat.  

How much protein is okay?

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I find eating a lot of red meat is self limiting. If I eat a lot at a meal then I don't want to eat again for a many hours, and therefore I may only eat 2 meals that day. The positives are I am never hungry and I can lose fat weight when I do that.


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Hi Tina,

There is a problem with protein/amino acid sufficiency.  Last winter, my chiro (who has special training) said that my gut would not digest/utilize almost all amino acids (then).  What he thought was a large problem, for me fit right in with the concept that protein needs/requirements vary greatly each season ... winter is the time of rest so, little is required.  In summer, muscle mass grows, work increases, and immunity against insects increases; etc - so, protein/amino acid requirements peak.

these are just exploratory thoughts ... I have never seen actual numbers suggested.  Excess protein just does not willingly leave the body unused, but it can putrefy and cause all kinds of havok in the GI tract.  How much is enough and WHEN is it enough ??????????

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I remember watching a TV documentary show about the "coldest town in the world" which was claimed to be in Russia. The people raised reindeer or something like that. I specifically remember the reporter stating that their diet was almost 100% red meat and that it was critical for their survival in the cold temperatures. Therefore it would seem that more protein may be important in colder winter weather.

The other thing I remember from the show that I thought was interesting was that all of technology oriented devices that the reporter brought with him would not work properly in the severe cold temperatures!


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Excellent topic and responses, wow.  I would just add that, for some reason unfathomable to moi, glucosamine sulfate seems to suppress my appetite a little.

I also agree with the other suggs in this great thread, including MoDon's point that quality protein is key.


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MoDon,

I loves such input ... because it may not have been the protein that was being utilized but animal fat.  In cold climates (on cold days) this is an absolutely essential part of native (arctic - Inuit) eating.  The protein derived from the meat was/is of less importance.  These two facets actually reverse in importance winter to summer!

what-do-ya-think????????????????

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John, another great point!  Fat is very key to feeling sated and to keeping our brain chemistry, among other things, happy and peppy and bursting with love.  Thanks for pointing that out.


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I would think that the reindeer meat they were eating would have been fairly lean.

http://www.exoticmeats.com/store/index.php?cPath=24_36

http://reindeer.salrm.uaf.edu/html/78tables.html

Quoted from Quality Assessment of Reindeer Meat -
http://reindeer.salrm.uaf.edu/html/Cir78.html

Nutritional quality
Despite the higher saturated fat content of reindeer, consumers who eat reindeer rather than an equal-sized portion of beef, lamb or pork will consume much lower levels of saturated fats due to the lower total fat content.

Concluding Remarks
From a nutritional perspective, Alaskan reindeer should appeal to health-conscious consumers who wish to reduce their fat intake while consuming red meat. The forequarters evaluated were representative of animals harvested during the spring handling; different results may be found if animals slaughtered during handlings at other times of the year were studied.


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list of O nonnie high satisfaction foods that control appetite and keep you feeling full longer according to study at the university of Sidney in Australia

fish..beneficial and neutral varieties
steak
baked beans..beneficial and neutral varieties
grapes
eggs
brown rice
bananas

might also look into increasing your metabolic rate by increasing active muscle mass and using supps like bladderwrack or aromatose inhibitors

Also incorporate seaweeds into your diet and a cup or two of green tea if not sensitive to caffeine



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Mike,

I do find salmon, especially filet/steak. to be very filling.  I can eat a lot more turkey/lamb/chicken.  
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lAlso incorporate seaweeds into your diet...

Good suggestion. I find that snacking on seaweed quickly quells any cravings I might be having.



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MoDon,

I very much agree with your assessment of reindeer as being a very lean meat (most wild meat is too - moose, venison, seal, etc).  However, we are talking about deriving energy (heat) from food, it ain't the protein but the fat that the mitochondria burns as fuel.  I am certain that these people also ate huge portions of animal-fat to remain healthy in a cold environment.  [Perhaps this was 'lost' or 'edited-out' as part of the filming process.]

It would be great if Henriette would plug-in to this discussion.

Mikeo, it's obvious from this selection of foods that environment (temperature) plays a very small role in selecting foods.  Query:  Since you live in Toronto, Canada and 'winterize' your car, should you also not get 'winterized'?  Or, do you run on the same fuel (tropical fruits = summer gasoline) ... or fill your radiator the same, year round?  The Aussie list of comfort-foods is for what-season .... a notion of one-size-fits-all, eh?  Rather than blood types, is it OK for a one size-fits-all concept for different seasons?

John


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So, if seaweed is good, would chorella be a good choice?  Is it hard to digest for an O nonnie?

I am thinking of ordering this chorella.  I just cannot seem to eat red meat too much.  It makes me feel lethargic and too heavy!  And, I just don't like too much of it, once or twice a week.  I do like the Bison meat though, but talk about expensive!  These lean healthy red meats are pricey and we just can't afford to eat that much.  Any other nonnies like this?

Here's the chorella site

http://www.oceansidepublishing.....a5dd262967b7ea18afa2

They also have a maca called MacaSure that I think I am going to order also.  Tell me what you think.

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I recently had a live blood analysis done and it showed I have Rouleau which is red blood cells linked in chains caused from poor digestion. The diagnostician said I could run a marathon and not lose any weight and I should take Digest Gold. I also like to eat a lot and other symptoms of Rouleau are fatigue and heartburn/indigestion. Maybe you should try that or another digestive enzyme.
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Quoted from ironwood55

Good suggestion. I find that snacking on seaweed quickly quells any cravings I might be having.



What kind of seaweed to you typically snack on? Sometimes I find myself just craving nori, and I can eat several sheets in one sitting (I buy packages of 50 at the local asian market - much cheaper than the HFS).


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What kind of seaweed to you typically snack on? Sometimes I find myself just craving nori, and I can eat several sheets in one sitting (I buy packages of 50 at the local asian market - much cheaper than the HFS).


Good Question, Drea!

I've never eaten seaweed, and I don't know what nori is--but I'm sure willing to give it a try!

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nori is what they use to roll up sushi with.
nori sheets are my substitute tortillas down here. lol


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Today, my appetite has been more suppressed.  I took my Seacure capsules about 20-30 minutes before eating, and I wasn't as hungry today.  I think the amino acids in them, namely the tyrosine and glutamine, do help with lowering appetite.  It was sort of slight, not a dramatic change, but enough to take the edge of the overeating compulsion.  Yay!!!  

So, it's a start, and I got into a pair of size smaller pants I had hanging up from a year or so ago, from before I got pregnant this last time.  They actually fit, although a bit tight around the waist, but at least I could wear them!!!

Decided I must only have my one piece of sourdough brown rice bread for breakfast and no more grains the rest of the day.  This seems to be going well.

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Also, got started working out again every day except Sundays for going on 4 weeks now.  I am loving it and just feel so much stronger and better.  It is sooooooooooo true that O's need that exercise.  I think especially nonnies!

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