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Laura P
Friday, December 15, 2006, 3:00am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I agree with Alia, I think you have a bunch of issues going on here that are making each other worse and the meds are not helping matters.  I would focus on beneficials and also re-evaluate your breakfest.  

What all is in your 'crunchy oat cereal' that sounds like sugar, sugar, sugar to me.  Why don't you have some good quality protien like eggs instead, also is your soy milk plain or sweetened.  Start looking at all the sources of hidden sugar in your diet, I think you would find quite a few.

I also think, as stated before it would be a good idea to eliminate grains for a while and focus more on beneficial starchy veggies



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Quoted from Susana
Is ascorbic acid bad for A's?

I have noticed that in the last two years, wheat and dairy make me gain weight when it did not before. I have always had these products and always maintained good weight.

It seems as if my metabolism is running slightly slower eventhough I have more muscle now.

How do your clothes fit? If they fit tighter you have gained fat.

If I where you, I would have some protein for breakfast and have the cereal for dinner instead of the goat cheese. I do not know which one you have but semicured Spanish goat cheese... perhaps too much fat for an A. Actually, the "Fatigue" book has goat cheese as neutral infrequent... you might as well count it as avoid.

How about lentils?

Also, have you noticed your veggies are mostly roots? How about some greens.



Hi Susana,
I think ascorbic acid is bad for anyone who can't tolerate it, I know Italybound and Victoria are in the same boat as me!! And I think we are all different B/Ts.
I think you may have something regarding metabolism, I'm sure that is one of my probs linked to the thyroid.
The semi cured goat cheese is probably a little high in fat compared with the diet cheese (dairy) I used to eat but I'm not a lover of cheese so I don't eat very much.
Lentils I like, and use them in soups.
Yes root veggies I like, I forgot to mention that I eat loads of broccoli.

Lola, thanks for the tip re cod.

Alia, thanks I'll recheck the bennie lists. Can't say I've come across any soya cheese here. The yogurt I eat has soya in it but is also dairy and I really like it; the actual soya one is quite disgusting, not at all like the ones I use to have in England, the goat ones were good too. Afraid I can't get into soya eg tofu, not much of a market for it here so not much available to even try.

Laura, the oat cereal is actually the best I've found, sure it has brown sugar and honey in it but believe me it's not sweet by any stretch of the imagination! And is better than the Kellogs Crunchy Nut Cornflakes that I ate pre btd   The soya milk is natural, don't care for the sweetened type.
Sometimes I have eggs for breakfast but why do they always make my mouth dry
I can eliminate the grains but it so limits me.
Phew.......so much hard work!!!  

Anyway thanks, I do appreciate everyones suggestions and willingness to help me.





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I know fine-tuning your BTD diet can be a lot of work, but it's SO worth it in the long run.
Here's some well-meant thoughts.
Ascorbic acid is derived mainly from corn - at least that's my limited understanding of the situation - and causes a lot of harm to a lot of people.
I feel for you being in an area where the food & supplement choices are such a big problem.
Try to research current info on gluten grains and the trouble they've caused the human race since they've taken a bigger & bigger place in our diets. The information is really disturbing, and it might turn out that you might reduce even more your relationship w/grains.
I find if I get more protein, I crave chocolate and cake-y stuff a lot less. (I know we're at different ends of the BTD spectrum.)
Forgive me, but your age range is going to be vulnerable to the pranks of hormones realigning, causing fatigue & other mischief as well.
Good luck, girl, you're fighting the good fight! Thank you for sharing, I learn so much from the questions & answers here!
ps -And I don't know about anyone else, but when I'm doing well with bennie-intense compliance, I have no sense of deprivation. That only starts when I dip my toe into the cheating pool, then here come the monster cravings!
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Suzanna....You are so right about that 'cheating pool'....why do we do it? it's just not worth it.

Well, since last Saturday I tightened up and this morning I saw a 4 1/2lbs drop on the scales...very good but I need to keep going. So far I've completely kept away from chocolate although the opportunities were there, I feel fairly convinced that the added magnesium that Italybound suggested may be hepling with that craving.
You are right about the hormone probs, my husband too will be relieved when I get to the other end of this menopause!!!

I can see and have really always known that carbs are difficult for me to handle, so just need to watch that more closely.

Just like to tell you how much I enjoy reading your blogs, they are a great blessing!!


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Quoted from Alia_Vo
Janet,

I made the observation that there are alot of neutral food items in your daily food plan.  In LR, Dr. D'Adamo states that individuals who are facing an illness or trying to lose weight, sticking to Tier diet is important and adding neutral foods should be used with caution.

Re-evaluate the neutrals you are eating and try filling them in with a benefical.  For instance, substitute a compliant soy cheese, if there is one available, for the goat cheese.

Alia


Well after one week and after evaluating exactly what has been eaten, I kept a list of everything...I can see that the only beneficals were salmon (1/2 tin), veggies and nuts. Everything else were neutrals and one avoid - lamb.
So am looking into that but doesn't look promising as I just don't like fish!!
However, not all doom and gloom...I shed 4 1/2lbs.  

Best of all, no craving for chocolate!! could this be the magnesium supp??




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Janet,
If it's helpful for you, keeping track of what you eat is a good way to observe what you truthfully consume within a week.  It's easy to underestimate how many neutrals one eats or how many hidden avoids slip into meals.  

The salmon and nuts are a good start for the beneficial foods.  Slowly replace your neutrals with beneficials whenever you get the opportunity.  Make small goals such as adding a beneficial vegetable to every lunch and dinner meal, or trying a new 'greens' once a week.  I think eventually your body will start craving beneficial foods once you start eating them on a regular basis.

I believe others on this forum have stated that a craving for chocolate is related to a magnesium deficiency.  I can not help you out more specifically with this subject as I rarely ever eat chocolate.

Alia


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Question for Laura...
Why exactly do you say that you are refraining from secreting?? Just got me wondering.....


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I have many non-secreting tendencies, possibly an A2, plus I do very well with lamb and some other non-secretor foods.



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Well, to be honest I don't have any probs with lamb/goat either and tomato would be a neutral...I struggle without tomatoes.


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That is what individuality is all about, lamb makes me feel good, in no way bothers me so I say, I eat lamb



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Individuality is a huge part of this lifestyle.  Even though several A's have responded to this thread, I am positive that we each eat very differently.  

I have not had my A subgroups tested.  Although I am a secretor, I have challenges with dometic mushrooms which are suppose to be beneficial for me, and neutral for non-secretors.  I think I may have some challenges with corn, too.  I have not eaten corn in a long time, so I can't remember how I specifically react to it.

I have periodically played with the thoughts that I should abstain both secretor and non-secretor avoids.

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corn and domestic mushrooms are also bad for me



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I have periodically played with the thoughts that I should abstain both secretor and non-secretor avoids.

Alia


That's an interesting thought Alia. Do you mean you'd just eat what you felt good with?? (as a trial I mean).


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It sounds like she is saying she will still follow the A sec. diet, but eliminate both secretor and nonnie avoids.



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Yes, Victoria is correct.  I follow the secretor diet, and I want to cover all of my avoid bases.  

Quite accidentaaly, I've learned through trial and experientation by eating foods that I thought were safe for me; some of the nonnie foods have given me problems.

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