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AfricanTypeO
Tuesday, December 12, 2006, 11:56pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I just wanted to report that I had a really unimpressive interaction with Slanker's Meats http://www.slankersgrassfedmeats.com

I asked a simple question and the company owner's email reply was unbelievably rude.  I wouldn't care if this company were offering free 2 carat diamonds with their grass-fed meat, I would never do business with them.  

I've ordered from the following companies, and the customer service has been very good in each case and in one case, exceptional.

http://www.americangrassfedbeef.com
http://www.uswellnessmeats.com
http://www.blackwing.com
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Tuesday, December 12, 2006, 11:58pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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oh and here's a fun tidbit from the email from Slankers (FYI, this comment wasn't even part of the 'rude' comments, this was their idea of being friendly)

"Also, the eat for
your blood type deal is total nonsense."
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$3/pound grass fed beef.  I just oredered 10lbs-  the most delicious ground beef I've ever had.  Make sure you call them first to check on shipping.  Overall, I wound up paying about $5/lb with shipping.  At Whole Foods (which, btw, has its corporate office in Austin where I live) I pay $6/lb for grass fed.


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Wednesday, December 13, 2006, 12:44am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Eric, you have no idea how grateful I am!!  These are the best prices I've seen for grass-fed beef.  Period.  Thank you thank you!
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try finding some one local.  this fall my husband found some grass fed highland scottish cattle just up the road from where we live.  the farmer takes great pride in his cows.  we made good friends with him, we ride our mountain bikes up by his farm all the time.  such a great guy.  anyway we bought a quarter of a cow this fall for $2 a pound, and that was cut up and wrapped to.  next fall i'm sure my husband will buy a half.  it really is great if you can find someone local.   a good website for local things is localharvest.com
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Mandi, I do have somebody local.  However, his prices aren't as good as the ones on that site.  I live in NYC and nothing, repeat, nothing is reasonably priced here; from housing to food to medical care
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More email from Slanker/Texasgrassfedbeef.


Slanker:  You mentioned several things in your request.  One is red meats.  All
grass-fed meats (beef, pork, lamb, goat, bison) are dark colored.  You
mentioned other game meats:  What's with that?  Most commercially available exotic
meats are grain-fed?   Also, there is absolutely no nutritional
advantage for exotic versus domesticated meats.  Just different flavors.


Me: Thanks for your email.  Red meat, by my understanding, is the meat of a mammal - as opposed to poultry/fowl.  I was also under the impression that the game meats  - bison etc, were often grass fed.

Slanker:  Most folks call on the phone and establish contact.  They get personal-- not impersonal.  Maybe in New York folks just make demands andexpect people to respond like robots.  eah, we know New Yorkers.  Got a bunch forcustomers.  The only ones we keep are those that are human.  The otherswe have no use for.  Maybe you've lived there too long.  (Now how doyou like me??      

Ted Slanker

P.S.  Duck is a very dark meat.  Only the meats of grain-fed crittersare pale.

P.P.S.  Get a life.


And here is his response in full to my telling him that I follow the Blood Type Diet

"Also, the eat for
your blood type deal is total nonsense.  It's strictly a one-man opinion
thing with not one shred of scientific review nor analysis."

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african type o,
how far are you from new paltz ny?  I know of a great grass fed organic farm there.  Sorry for your experience!  I couldn't believe what i read.  that's just horrible!
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Wow - that is awful how he responded to you - he will definately find himself losing business if he's like this to people.  


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More email from Slanker/Texasgrassfedbeef.


Slanker:  You mentioned several things in your request.  One is red meats.  All
grass-fed meats (beef, pork, lamb, goat, bison) are dark colored.  You
mentioned other game meats:  What's with that?  Most commercially available exotic
meats are grain-fed?   Also, there is absolutely no nutritional
advantage for exotic versus domesticated meats.  Just different flavors.


Me: Thanks for your email.  Red meat, by my understanding, is the meat of a mammal - as opposed to poultry/fowl.  I was also under the impression that the game meats  - bison etc, were often grass fed.

Slanker:  Most folks call on the phone and establish contact.  They get personal-- not impersonal.  Maybe in New York folks just make demands andexpect people to respond like robots.  eah, we know New Yorkers.  Got a bunch forcustomers.  The only ones we keep are those that are human.  The otherswe have no use for.  Maybe you've lived there too long.  (Now how doyou like me??      

Ted Slanker

P.S.  Duck is a very dark meat.  Only the meats of grain-fed crittersare pale.

P.P.S.  Get a life.


And here is his response in full to my telling him that I follow the Blood Type Diet

"Also, the eat for
your blood type deal is total nonsense.  It's strictly a one-man opinion
thing with not one shred of scientific review nor analysis."



OMG--said Out Loud to God.  I guess I've been away from Texas too long....I'm just stunned by his rudeness.  So sorry this happened to you!

Love,

Myra.



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Re:

"Slanker:  Most folks call on the phone and establish contact.  They get personal-- not impersonal.  Maybe in New York folks just make demands andexpect people to respond like robots.  eah, we know New Yorkers.  Got a bunch forcustomers.  The only ones we keep are those that are human.  The otherswe have no use for.  Maybe you've lived there too long."

Okay, he does not want to mess with my wheat-infused self right now!!!!!!!!!!!!  Uh, yeeeah, that e-mail he sent to you was not only totally unprofessional but it was unbelievably hate-filled and stereotype-laden re "New Yorkers".  He is really lucky he didn't send me that e-mail.  Really lucky.  I'd be reporting his sorry excuse for a self to some authority(ies).

Boycott Slanker meats, that's what I cry!



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P.S.  Da nerve!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rudeness.  Ignorance.  Prejudice.  What an unholy trinity.


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Boycott Slanker meats, that's what I cry!

i hear that, u dont have to tell me !




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I cannot believe the arrogance of that guy. My jaw dropped when i read his e-mail to you ATO.
I'm all about the boycott too. I wonder if Ted has ever heard of "word of mouth" ????? What a fool, is there a place on the web to post about such negative customer no-service?


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I asked around about him and found a friend of a friend who ordered from Slanker once but found him "too intense" and will never do business with him again.
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Been doing a bit of Googling on this ignorant, hate-filled bag-o-condescension and rudeness.  First off, I could have linked an interesting article he wrote.  Interesting because he talks about how there are "city slickers" (I guess that is those awful NYers again) and "country hicks", and the two refuse to understand each other and it is all the fault of big business.  Hmmmmm, seems like YOU (Slanker) could be a participant in that rift with your anti-NYer comments, but hey, that's just me.  What do I know, like most Americans, I guess I'm just as dumb as "a bag of hammers", per the same article.

But what I'm choosing to link here instead was a discussion on a forum that my Googling netted me.  It seems our Mr. Slanker uses all manner of pesticides and fertilizers, etc. on his grass.  You know, the grass that his meat is "grassfed" on?  Yeah, that grass:

http://72.14.209.104/search?q=.....mp;ct=clnk&cd=36

Scroll down until you get to a post by tcb or something like that.  You'll know it when you see it.

edited to add:  tcb68.  That's the one.


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BOYCOTT SLANKER MEAT!!!!!!!!
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Maybe he's an A eating too much of his meat


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Oh, it gets better.  Mind, I'm only putting up the choicest of all the INTERESTING links I'm finding on this guy.  Among other things, he was this stockbroker (hmmm...possibly in his beloved NY, do ya think?) and gold investor.

AND the financial officer of a golf company that used cyanide-contaminated leach pads on its mining sites.  Um hmmm.  I'm just sayin':

http://72.14.209.104/search?q=.....mp;ct=clnk&cd=64

Do NOT dis NY/NYers around me and expect to go un-Googled, mistah!


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btw, I should send him the lyrics of my new hero, Madonna, who has this fab song on her new album called I Love New York.  The lyrics are as follows, and I've purplified the ones that most apply to our new bud:

"I don't like cities
But I like New York
Other places make me feel like a dork
Los Angeles is for people who sleep
Paris and London
Baby you can keep

[Chorus]
Other cities always make me mad
Other places always make me sad
No other city ever made me glad except New York
I love New York [X3]

If you don't like my attitude
Then you can [edited for family site]
Just go to Texas
Isn't that where they golf

New York is not for little [edited] who scream
If you can't stand the heat
Then get off my street [repeat]

[Chorus]

I love New York [repeat]
Get off my street [repeat]"

Go, girl.  I'm lovin' Madonna lately!!!

I mean, how dare he say the stuff he said about NYers.  I never!


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One Q:  what on earth is a "leach pad", cyanide-contaminated or otherwise?  Hmmm...

Well, at any rate, this numnut is a big, fat polluter.  End of story there.


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All I have to say about anyone who treats a potential customer like that is consider the source.  What a jerk.
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All I have to say about anyone who treats a potential customer like that is consider the source.  What a jerk.

Yup.  I'm shocked.  Shocked, I tell you.  I don't shock easily due to being way jaded from living in this world for as long as I have.  Yet that's twice* in one month I've been shocked.  Oh, the humanity.

* The Michael Richards incident was the other shocker.  Whoa.


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P.S.  Afri-O, if you have a Whole Foods in your area, just get your grassfed beef there.

WHOLE FOODS FOREVER!


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OR, better yet, order some from this site that a lot of BTDers have raved about over the years:

http://www.eatwild.com/

Or there is another supplier that Kimonokat raved about a few years back and, KK, if you are reading this, what was that company?  I forget...


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P.S.  Afri-O, if you have a Whole Foods in your area, just get your grassfed beef there.

WHOLE FOODS FOREVER!


There is a Whole Foods in Manhattan, but Whole Foods are EXTREMELY expensive here.  It's expensive for them to do business and they only stock things with relatively high profit margins.  I'm out in the suburbs, and my store will not even stock pastured beef; they say it is not economically feasible, if you can imagine!  (They did away with the salad bar . . . I heard because there was too much waste.)


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WF is expensive everywhere (hence the nickname Whole Paycheck that I thought my nephew had made up but I've heard it from other sources).  I think it's worth it for the veggies and the beef if you don't have other sources.  More and more "regular" grocery stores are getting into organics.
It's nice to know that your food is "clean."
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Peppermint Twist, you are the coolest!!  Thanks for all your research on this Slanker character.  I will go read the links you have posted now.  I just got back from Whole Foods where I bought some grass fed sirloin for $8.99 per lb.  That's not too bad at all in price.  
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Here are some excerpts from the Slanker article that Peppermint Twist mentioned.  This Slanker dude sure is judgmental!  I guess I would qualify as one of the "city slickers" who is as "dumb as a bag of hammers."

"By and large, the average American is so far out of touch with reality that it’s incomprehensible.  Whether he’s an agricultural producer or a city slicker, more often than not his comprehension of the Big Picture can only be defined as being as dumb as a sack of hammers.  Neither group (country hick or city slicker) knows the other, and they really don’t want to strike up an acquaintance.  They aren’t neighbors, they never see each other, they don’t understand each other’s jargons and accents, and both believe the other side is always taking advantage of him.  For sure they don’t know much about life."

and

"Oh, they know how to use cellular phones, computers, and other modern gizmos, but that’s rote, not wisdom.  Shockingly, neither group even knows how to grow and raise food.  They buy everything they eat in grocery stores.
Since nearly all Americans are in the “sack of hammers” category, they live in the world of denial.  That’s right.  When they hear the truth and it differs from their fantasies, myths, hand-me-down knowledge, and superstitions, they reject it immediately.  They know they know better—just like a 12-year-old.  If you repeat the truth, they know they know better—just like an 18-year-old.  That’s my best definition of living in denial."

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Myra, he sure seems anti-social, to see the least.  He seems to hate most groups of people.
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One thing he's good at is describing himself:

"Whether he’s an agricultural producer or a city slicker, more often than not his comprehension of the Big Picture can only be defined as being as dumb as a sack of hammers."

"When they hear the truth and it differs from their fantasies, myths, hand-me-down knowledge, and superstitions, they reject it immediately.  They know they know better—just like a 12-year-old.  If you repeat the truth, they know they know better—just like an 18-year-old.  That’s my best definition of living in denial."



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Let me not pass you by in quest
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Quoted from Victoria
One thing he's good at is describing himself:

"Whether he’s an agricultural producer or a city slicker, more often than not his comprehension of the Big Picture can only be defined as being as dumb as a sack of hammers."

"When they hear the truth and it differs from their fantasies, myths, hand-me-down knowledge, and superstitions, they reject it immediately.  They know they know better—just like a 12-year-old.  If you repeat the truth, they know they know better—just like an 18-year-old.  That’s my best definition of living in denial."


Ha ha ha! I was thinking as I read those quotes that he must be refering to himself!


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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Hmmm, another email from Slanker.

I had told him that I'd seek my grass-fed meat elsewhere given his unfriendly attitude.  Here is what he has to say in his email about other grass-fed beef suppliers

"For instance, Grasslands in Missouri feeds brewers solubles to their cattle in the winter.  That ain't green leafy stuff.  There are others who actually feed grain to their cattle while they are on pastures.  There are many more who advertise grass-fed (Niman for instance), but they have conventional feedlot cattle.  Then there are those who are really producers of grass-fed meats.  So who are you comparing?  Do you know how to determine the differences?    What are you focusing on; nutrition, taste, tenderness, price, what?  If it's taste, then how do you judge flavor?  If it's tenderness, how much do you know about the factors that come into play regarding tenderness?  Do you know how to cook the meats?  Do you know how to carve them?  Do you actually know what meat is supposed to taste like?"


It's apt that Slanker rhymes with a well-known British cuss word that begins with the letter 'W'

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I should point out that I am no longer soliciting emails from Slanker in any way and i am not responding to the emails that he sends.  He just keeps emailing me vitriolic emails now, at least once per day.
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I'm not a psychiatrist; I don't even play one on television, but I think poor Ted has got some serious issues!

Love,

Myra.

, and what is soooooooo ironic about the quoted bits of the article is that HE is the one who wrote back to African Type O and said all this really intense anti-NYer stuff, so I guess he is a part of the problem instead of a part of the solution in terms of the two groups ("city slickers" and "hicks") not attempting to understand each other, huh?  Guess it isn't all just big business, but his ignorant, prejudiced self who is also a part of the problema!

As we chant in the Wrice anti-drug marches:

"If you're not part of the solution
You're part of the problem!"

Not a fan of this guy's comments on NYers, "city slickers", "country hicks", "bags of hammers", etc.  He definitely has issues!  And then it turns out he was a stockbroker and gold company "financial officer", etc.  What up with this dude?

He had better step off.  Again, had I received that e-mail, something would have taken place of a reporting to SOMEONE nature, like the Better Business Bureau or someone.  I mean, those are basically very hateful, unsolicited statements he made to an inquiry about meat.

Myrabee, you are right, he is definitely issue-laden.  And my thing is (and us infj's are usually on target about people, first-impression-wise, btw) that he is one of these people who is SO judgemental and arrogant, yet he doesn't know what the flip he is talking about!

Assessment:  Jerk!


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I should point out that I am no longer soliciting emails from Slanker in any way and i am not responding to the emails that he sends.  He just keeps emailing me vitriolic emails now, at least once per day.

Giiirl:

1.  Save all of his e-mails and the the intial one you wrote to him.

2.  If he continues to write you these, imho, harassing e-mails once per day, and you want him to cease and desist, write him ONCE and just state very clearly that you feel his e-mails are harassing in nature and you want him to stop e-mailing you immediately.

All the sites/experts on internet harassment say that you must state once in writing that you feel the e-mails are harassing and you wish them to stop.  But then after that, do NOT respond at all to anything else he writes.  I'm not sure if this guy is a classic harasser or if it is simply that he wants to make a buck and he is irked that (gee, for some reason) you aren't responding to his mails, as he somehow feels he can get you to the point of buying something if he keeps on writing.  However, either way, this, again, in my humble opinion, is at least bordering on harassment at this point, not due to the fact that he is e-mailing, but to the insulting content of his e-mails.  Either totally do NOT respond, or respond once saying that you feel harassed* and are requesting that he STOP e-mailing you.  I would suggest just waiting about a week and see if the e-mails stop without you saying that.  You don't want to irritate this guy because I'm not exactly sure what his "profile" is yet and the wackier someone is, the more likely it is that even just one e-mail saying you feel harassed and asking him to stop e-mailing could set him off on a tear of e-mails.  So I would suggest just doing NOTHING--definitely not responding to any of the mail.  Then if it keeps up after about another week or so, write once and tell him to STOP e-mailing.

If it STILL keeps up, you could report him to his IP provider, including copies of his e-mails for evidence, but let's hope it doesn't get to that point.  I think he will stop soon if you don't respond, which is what I would do.  But after another week or so...then and only then, you might have to write and say:  STOP e-mailing me, ya wack job.  Well, leave out that last part.  Just say, stop e-mailing me.  But for now, sit tight.  And DEFINITELY don't engage him in discussion, debate, or anything.  Just let him wear himself out and move on to other things.

* edited to add:  or, you could just say "I don't like the tone of your e-mails", the important thing is that you clearly tell him you want him to STOP e-mailing.  And that is only if this continues.  I would sit tight and try to weather the storm for another week or so.  He's a Category Five right now but he'll probably experience some shearing and be downgraded to a harmless tropical system in a few days.  Hunker down!


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P.S.  AfricanTypeO and all, here (link below) is some excellent advice for how to stay safe on the net and what to do if you do feel harassed:

http://www.stopabuse.vt.edu/cyberstalking.htm


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