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Jane
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WF is expensive everywhere (hence the nickname Whole Paycheck that I thought my nephew had made up but I've heard it from other sources).  I think it's worth it for the veggies and the beef if you don't have other sources.  More and more "regular" grocery stores are getting into organics.
It's nice to know that your food is "clean."
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AfricanTypeO
Wednesday, December 13, 2006, 8:31pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Peppermint Twist, you are the coolest!!  Thanks for all your research on this Slanker character.  I will go read the links you have posted now.  I just got back from Whole Foods where I bought some grass fed sirloin for $8.99 per lb.  That's not too bad at all in price.  
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AfricanTypeO
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Here are some excerpts from the Slanker article that Peppermint Twist mentioned.  This Slanker dude sure is judgmental!  I guess I would qualify as one of the "city slickers" who is as "dumb as a bag of hammers."

"By and large, the average American is so far out of touch with reality that it’s incomprehensible.  Whether he’s an agricultural producer or a city slicker, more often than not his comprehension of the Big Picture can only be defined as being as dumb as a sack of hammers.  Neither group (country hick or city slicker) knows the other, and they really don’t want to strike up an acquaintance.  They aren’t neighbors, they never see each other, they don’t understand each other’s jargons and accents, and both believe the other side is always taking advantage of him.  For sure they don’t know much about life."

and

"Oh, they know how to use cellular phones, computers, and other modern gizmos, but that’s rote, not wisdom.  Shockingly, neither group even knows how to grow and raise food.  They buy everything they eat in grocery stores.
Since nearly all Americans are in the “sack of hammers” category, they live in the world of denial.  That’s right.  When they hear the truth and it differs from their fantasies, myths, hand-me-down knowledge, and superstitions, they reject it immediately.  They know they know better—just like a 12-year-old.  If you repeat the truth, they know they know better—just like an 18-year-old.  That’s my best definition of living in denial."

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I'm not a psychiatrist; I don't even play one on television, but I think poor Ted has got some serious issues!

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AfricanTypeO
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Myra, he sure seems anti-social, to see the least.  He seems to hate most groups of people.
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One thing he's good at is describing himself:

"Whether he’s an agricultural producer or a city slicker, more often than not his comprehension of the Big Picture can only be defined as being as dumb as a sack of hammers."

"When they hear the truth and it differs from their fantasies, myths, hand-me-down knowledge, and superstitions, they reject it immediately.  They know they know better—just like a 12-year-old.  If you repeat the truth, they know they know better—just like an 18-year-old.  That’s my best definition of living in denial."



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Quoted from Victoria
One thing he's good at is describing himself:

"Whether he’s an agricultural producer or a city slicker, more often than not his comprehension of the Big Picture can only be defined as being as dumb as a sack of hammers."

"When they hear the truth and it differs from their fantasies, myths, hand-me-down knowledge, and superstitions, they reject it immediately.  They know they know better—just like a 12-year-old.  If you repeat the truth, they know they know better—just like an 18-year-old.  That’s my best definition of living in denial."


Ha ha ha! I was thinking as I read those quotes that he must be refering to himself!


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AfricanTypeO
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Hmmm, another email from Slanker.

I had told him that I'd seek my grass-fed meat elsewhere given his unfriendly attitude.  Here is what he has to say in his email about other grass-fed beef suppliers

"For instance, Grasslands in Missouri feeds brewers solubles to their cattle in the winter.  That ain't green leafy stuff.  There are others who actually feed grain to their cattle while they are on pastures.  There are many more who advertise grass-fed (Niman for instance), but they have conventional feedlot cattle.  Then there are those who are really producers of grass-fed meats.  So who are you comparing?  Do you know how to determine the differences?    What are you focusing on; nutrition, taste, tenderness, price, what?  If it's taste, then how do you judge flavor?  If it's tenderness, how much do you know about the factors that come into play regarding tenderness?  Do you know how to cook the meats?  Do you know how to carve them?  Do you actually know what meat is supposed to taste like?"


It's apt that Slanker rhymes with a well-known British cuss word that begins with the letter 'W'

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I should point out that I am no longer soliciting emails from Slanker in any way and i am not responding to the emails that he sends.  He just keeps emailing me vitriolic emails now, at least once per day.
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I'm not a psychiatrist; I don't even play one on television, but I think poor Ted has got some serious issues!

Love,

Myra.

, and what is soooooooo ironic about the quoted bits of the article is that HE is the one who wrote back to African Type O and said all this really intense anti-NYer stuff, so I guess he is a part of the problem instead of a part of the solution in terms of the two groups ("city slickers" and "hicks") not attempting to understand each other, huh?  Guess it isn't all just big business, but his ignorant, prejudiced self who is also a part of the problema!

As we chant in the Wrice anti-drug marches:

"If you're not part of the solution
You're part of the problem!"

Not a fan of this guy's comments on NYers, "city slickers", "country hicks", "bags of hammers", etc.  He definitely has issues!  And then it turns out he was a stockbroker and gold company "financial officer", etc.  What up with this dude?

He had better step off.  Again, had I received that e-mail, something would have taken place of a reporting to SOMEONE nature, like the Better Business Bureau or someone.  I mean, those are basically very hateful, unsolicited statements he made to an inquiry about meat.

Myrabee, you are right, he is definitely issue-laden.  And my thing is (and us infj's are usually on target about people, first-impression-wise, btw) that he is one of these people who is SO judgemental and arrogant, yet he doesn't know what the flip he is talking about!

Assessment:  Jerk!


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I should point out that I am no longer soliciting emails from Slanker in any way and i am not responding to the emails that he sends.  He just keeps emailing me vitriolic emails now, at least once per day.

Giiirl:

1.  Save all of his e-mails and the the intial one you wrote to him.

2.  If he continues to write you these, imho, harassing e-mails once per day, and you want him to cease and desist, write him ONCE and just state very clearly that you feel his e-mails are harassing in nature and you want him to stop e-mailing you immediately.

All the sites/experts on internet harassment say that you must state once in writing that you feel the e-mails are harassing and you wish them to stop.  But then after that, do NOT respond at all to anything else he writes.  I'm not sure if this guy is a classic harasser or if it is simply that he wants to make a buck and he is irked that (gee, for some reason) you aren't responding to his mails, as he somehow feels he can get you to the point of buying something if he keeps on writing.  However, either way, this, again, in my humble opinion, is at least bordering on harassment at this point, not due to the fact that he is e-mailing, but to the insulting content of his e-mails.  Either totally do NOT respond, or respond once saying that you feel harassed* and are requesting that he STOP e-mailing you.  I would suggest just waiting about a week and see if the e-mails stop without you saying that.  You don't want to irritate this guy because I'm not exactly sure what his "profile" is yet and the wackier someone is, the more likely it is that even just one e-mail saying you feel harassed and asking him to stop e-mailing could set him off on a tear of e-mails.  So I would suggest just doing NOTHING--definitely not responding to any of the mail.  Then if it keeps up after about another week or so, write once and tell him to STOP e-mailing.

If it STILL keeps up, you could report him to his IP provider, including copies of his e-mails for evidence, but let's hope it doesn't get to that point.  I think he will stop soon if you don't respond, which is what I would do.  But after another week or so...then and only then, you might have to write and say:  STOP e-mailing me, ya wack job.  Well, leave out that last part.  Just say, stop e-mailing me.  But for now, sit tight.  And DEFINITELY don't engage him in discussion, debate, or anything.  Just let him wear himself out and move on to other things.

* edited to add:  or, you could just say "I don't like the tone of your e-mails", the important thing is that you clearly tell him you want him to STOP e-mailing.  And that is only if this continues.  I would sit tight and try to weather the storm for another week or so.  He's a Category Five right now but he'll probably experience some shearing and be downgraded to a harmless tropical system in a few days.  Hunker down!


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P.S.  AfricanTypeO and all, here (link below) is some excellent advice for how to stay safe on the net and what to do if you do feel harassed:

http://www.stopabuse.vt.edu/cyberstalking.htm


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