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how about some wild boar bacon?
does such a delicatessen exist?
with no nitrates and unsmoked?
Is that too much asking? lol


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Thank Google for this link, Lola:

http://www.venisonamerica.com/products/boar.html

The price on wild boar bacon listed here is 5.75 plus shipping--not that much more than high-grade bacon, at least here in the Delaware Valley. I'm definitely going to give this a try. The other prices for chops, roasts etc are not that bad either.

Wild boar, woohoo!


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Have you ever tryed Turkey Bacon, We us Wellshire Frams Turkey Bacon, it is all most like eating Ham, Very good on BTL on Rye. A good health food store should haveit. or go to http://www.wellshirefarms.com.

Larry


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Oh, Brighid, thank you for the venisonamerica link!
Though I have 95% given up eating pork, I still love bacon, the more burned to a crisp, the better. Partly I think the nonnie in me is grooving on the salt. I have no intention of giving up the bacon, but will cut way back if/when the ol' bod complains when I've eaten it.
A thought: I generally hate eating fat when eating meat, but oddly always loved nibbling crispy pork fat, feeling guilty (for eating fat) but unable to deny myself the treat. This memory came up when I read the earlier mention of eating pork fat.
Thanks for keeping the thread, guys.


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great link Brighid, thanks!

and enjoy your first batch on my behalf!


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Larry--we eat turkey bacon most of the time, which is to say about three times a year *chuckle* I stay away from bacon because it has so much salt and nitrites. There is a local brand we buy called Godshall's, it's pretty good. It's just that every once in a while, I get a mild craving for pork bacon. So it's good to have a couple of sources for high quality pork or wild boar, just for fun.


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I self-tested my diet with and without pork a few years back (pre-BTD) and gave up all pork products for a month, then reintroduced them to my diet. YEESH! I felt like a freight train had run me over in my sleep the next day; flu-like symptoms, congestion, headache, muscle aches etc.. I wasn't sure it WASN'T a mild case of the flu, so I ditched pork again for a month and reintroduced it.  BLAM! Same thing again.  I haven't TOUCHED pork in any form since.. (and Oh how I love bacon for cooking and lard for use in pastries and pie crusts!)

I think the culprit is Porcine Endogenous Retrovirus.. all pigs apparently have it, and it doesn't seem to die off even with high temp cooking.  It also shares characteristics with the Murine and Feline Leukemia Virus family. While there has been little to no substantial research on porcine to human transmission, both of those viruses (virii?) have high rates of mutation and tumor causing properties within gene tests on the human genome.  Pretty scary stuff.  

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Pork natually contains an enzime that causes decay, because they are earth cleaners, and they are garbage eaters.  I was reading a book by a doctor who was researching eating healthy, and organic.  He had taken a piece of pork and put it in a petre ( sp. ? ) dish with human tissue, various plant tissues, raw beef and some other stuff I don't remember.  Everything on the dish with the pork, and all were touching it, died exept the pork.  That was enough to make me quit eating it.  I donated my book to a library, but I'm sure I can get the title and the doctors name if anybody wants it.
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Applegate Farms Turkey Bacon does not contain any nitrates or preservatives.  Salt is still an issue here but it is very tasty.


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I'm not a big pork lover either. I hate ham. I'll only occassionally eat bacon. My biggest offense was Italian sausage with spaghetti, since I'm Italian, it was one of my mom's holiday meals. I always would feel not well after I ate it. It's easy for me to give up pork. Tomatoes is harder for me to give up. Spaghetti sauce...
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Thanks Mhameline and Peppermint.   I just did a Google on pigs and learned that they eat their own feces, have been known to attack and eat humans and are generally pretty nasty. No pigmeat for me!


Thanks, that did it for me! I'm done now. Not a big pork eater since I started BTD years ago. As of now, I will no longer feel deprived if I don't a piece of bacon! Every once in a while I get weirded out about a food that I'll never eat again. Thanks for sharing!!
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Oh, Brighid, thank you for the venisonamerica link!
Though I have 95% given up eating pork, I still love bacon, the more burned to a crisp, the better. Partly I think the nonnie in me is grooving on the salt. I have no intention of giving up the bacon, but will cut way back if/when the ol' bod complains when I've eaten it.
A thought: I generally hate eating fat when eating meat, but oddly always loved nibbling crispy pork fat, feeling guilty (for eating fat) but unable to deny myself the treat. This memory came up when I read the earlier mention of eating pork fat.
Thanks for keeping the thread, guys.


You just gave me a memory. When I was young, I didn't like meat, only the fat. On the rare occasion we had steak for dinner, I'd eat my fat and divey up my steak for my 5 other siblings in exchange for the fat from their steak. Oddly enough I was skinniest one of the bunch, living on fat.
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You just gave me a memory. When I was young, I didn't like meat, only the fat. On the rare occasion we had steak for dinner, I'd eat my fat and divey up my steak for my 5 other siblings in exchange for the fat from their steak. Oddly enough I was skinniest one of the bunch, living on fat.



O's are blessed with the ability to handle fats (especially saturated fats) better than the other types.
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Haven't eaten pork for about 2 years now, but I have to say that the best meal I've ever had was stuffed pork chops. Had this in a gourmet restaurant just north of Toronto several year ago and will never forget it.


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It has occurred to me lately as I have been reading cat food (dry and canned) labels with more care, that I have never seen pork by-products listed.  I am concerned that there seems to be way too much corn and grain, but I've never seen pork listed.  Do Veterinarians know something the general public does not?


Same here. Since the latest pet food scare I have been a lot more focused on cat food labels and contents and do not see pork as a content. Makes you wonder.






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How does pork rate in the GTD scheme of things?


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Pre BTD, I was a big pork eater. We used to get a whole pork loin, cut it in 1" or so pieces and grill it. Oh, now that was a little slice o' heaven, until.............. no more pork for me. I will only have the occasional 'clean' bacon, but nothing else pork related. Even took my own hamburger for Christmas dinner

shoulderblade.........good wondering on why pork isn't used in pet food...........hmmmmmm never thought of that before. should we call a pet food company and ask why?  



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IB, if you go to reply #45 in this thread, there's an answer to your question. I don't know if it's accurate, but sounds plausible to me.


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Pork has a Bacteria in it that Inflammaton will keep feeding on.

The Welishire Farms Turkey bacon has on additeves in it what so ever.


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So it is the port itself that is no good or because it is cured and contains nitrates, etc?  Trader Joes carries uncured bacon with no preservatives and tastes great.  Very hard to give up...
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How does pork rate in the GTD scheme of things?


So is it an avoid for all genotypes? On BTD pork is a Tier 2 avoid (I think..)


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JMO: if you're an O in good health and you have a local source for pork without additives, or you know for sure the pigs were raised in a healthy environment, or you've got a good source for wild boar--you can indulge occasionally. But it's better just to avoid the stuff entirely. Dr. D has said ingestion of pork is like an infusion of type A antigens . . . not exactly a good thing for most of us. I only use turkey bacon now and don't really miss pork at all.  


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