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marianne
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The smell of bacon frying sends me out of the house wheezing with asthma becauseof the nitrates being released by heating!
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The smell of bacon frying sends me out of the house wheezing with asthma becauseof the nitrates being released by heating!


But isn't some of that hideous pink stuff nitrate free nowadays?

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I just did a Google on pigs and learned that they eat their own feces,



FWIW, so do chickens.
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very bääää if somebody cooks whatsoever out of pork...yech ...have nearly to vomate
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Well pork is just a tier 2 avoid for B secs- so at special times of year: like Christmas
I do eat organic or high quality bacon, ham or sausages without nitrates etc
. I don´t know if it is my heritage -Danes eat a lot of pork- but pork does really not bother me much.... but normally I tend to avoid it.


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Quoted from semmens



FWIW, so do chickens.


Lots of animals do.  It is very common and is called "coprophagy".  This is normal and natural and actually quite healthy.  Most animals synthesize all of the vitamins that they need.  Guinea Pigs and humans are examples of the very rare issue of not doing so, in that we don't make Vitamin C.

However, a lot of this synthesis takes place in the lower end of the large colon and therefore these nutrients are excreted, rather than absorbed.

The animal is simply consuming the nutrients that it needs and that were produced and excreted by the body.  This is extremely common, and if you carefully watch animals for long periods of time, you will notice that almost all do it at one time or another.  They will consume their own feces, the feces of their own species and that of other species in order to get these nutrients.

This is why dogs relish cat poo, which we have discussed before!



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I wonder what the 'yuck' response is when we think about eating an animal that will eat itself or another animal (humans are animals)? Fish eat other fish and we eat them. Interesting thoughts I'm having. Must be lunch time.


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I had this housemate named Muff (real name:  Elizabeth, now, I ask you, which would you choose, plus she was a Dead Head...a Dead Head named Muff, unusual *lol*...and she was also a tennis pro/preppy type, so she was definitely a oner!) when I lived in a farmhouse in Vermont for a time as a college student.  Muff was a fantastic cook.

She would often make coffee and bacon in the morning, neither of which I would partake of, yet the smell was WONDERFUL.  I think both coffee and bacon are things that produce an aroma far more wondrous than their actual taste.

Something about waking up on a frozen Vermont morning to a few new feet of snow outside and the aroma of coffee and bacon downstairs that was truly priceless.

Route 15, halfway between Johnson and Jeffersonville, VT...Muff also grew all sorts of winter veggies and would make things like spanakopita using our own spinach, etc.  Ummm MMMM!


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ATO--I usually have turkey bacon. We don't keep any pork in the house at all, and when we eat out I try to avoid dishes with pork or other avoids. But even the turkey or beef bacon are not all that great--they are loaded with salt and preservatives. I keep them for very occasional use, which works out well.


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I d have wild boar anytime!!
roasted like in the times of king Arthur,with all his knights around the round table!!!!  yummmm!!

here s a quote by Dr D:


the quote won't appear,but that is ok, he said pork is probably ok for most type O's.....HUH? since when????

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this quote is from the old archives.......
found a post by Edna referring to that post precisely
http://www.dadamo.com/forum/archive7/config.pl?read=24575
I m still trying to find that old post........
I have it in my notebook, though, without a link.....(


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by "the old archives" do you mean: before the lectin was found or the fact that it is a panhemaglutinin?  I mean this with all due respect, its just that I would eat organic pork if were really ok for O's. As well as wild boar, but Iam sure it also has the same issue as ppork.......???
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The facts in Malaysia speak for themselves.

The Chinese are the heaviest pork eaters here, followed
by the Indians. The Malays do not eat pork by virtue of
their religion.

At the last report a few years ago, the overall incidence of cancer
is as follows :

    Chinese - 1 in 4
    Indians   - 1 in 5
    Malays    - 1 in 7

These figures are despite the Malays being the heaviest smokers.

The above ranking order is apparently duplicated in breast, liver
and rectal cancers. I believe this is also true for stomach and
colon cancers. The Indians lead in laryngeal cancer only largely by
virtue of their habit of chewing the betel leaf.

Chinese are well known to have the highest incidence of
nasopharyngeal cancer in the world. Of these, Chinese males
in Malaysia rank the second highest, and Chinese females
are the highest.

I have largely given up on eating pork years ago.


http://www.acrm.org.my/ncr/documents/Launching_Presentation/Overview.ppt

http://www.radiologymalaysia.org/breasthealth/About/FactsNStats.htm

http://www.acrm.org.my/ncr/documents/NCR_First_Report/Introduction.pdf

http://www.pantai.com.my/site.cfm?hid=2&sec=docwrite&dwid=3


The above figures are also despite the Malays being
the heaviest sugar (they have an extremely
sweet tooth) and simple carbohydrate (they really love
starchy, high glycemic index pastries) consumers.

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FWIW, so do chickens.



FWIW, occasinally, so do dogs.


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jayney-O,
wild boar is supposed to be ok for Os, if you can find a good reliable source.


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I've been wanting to add to this thread and see if anyone might comment on something I heard on the radio once about pigs and their "natural diet" It seems that where pigs mostly thrive as a native species they eat mostly fruit allbeit rotting fruit and as such are essential seed dispersal agents of native fruit varieties. I suppose this doesn't change the pig lectin status ;but with all the insight into grass fed as opposed to grain fed diets of other animals I wondered if a true fruitarian pig might actually be healthy to eat ?
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no......the lectin is there weather vegetarian or not......
like chicken for Bs.......pork although A like also has.........
http://www.dadamo.com/faq/smartfaq.cgi?answer=988882481&id=988813483


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Did you know that a pig can be bitten by a poisonous snake and not die from it?  It simply stores all the toxins in its fat.  Also, as someone mentioned before, The Bible warns not to eat pigs, camels, dogs, or shellfish.  Being an American, I don't think there's a whole lot of temptation to chow down on the camels and dogs, but certainly pork and shellfish.  When you look at the nasty toxic stuff that settles on the ocean floor, which shrimp and lobster then eat and store in their tissues, it's cool to see how once again God provides practical advice for what He knew would happen in our present world   Also of interest: there is a book called "Body by God" which is eerily similar to the type O diet...no dairy, no wheat, no pork, etc...with very few deviations in any food category.  Think about it- Type O was the 1st on the planet, the most common type in the world...My husband and I still follow the BTD (both O+), but it's cool to see how it matches with this Biblically-based book.  
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I got to admit pork is gross. Nettik that was a interesting post. I did not know about the shellfish in the bible.
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It has occured to me lately as I have been reading cat food (dry and canned) labels with more care, that I have never seen pork by-products listed.  I am concerned that there seems to be way too much corn and grain, but I've never seen pork listed.  Do Veternarians know something the general public does not?


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I'm not positive about the details I'll eport here but I seem to remember there was a strong advisory against feeding pork to cats from Anitra Frazier in her book "natural pet care" She stressed that pork fat had a molecular size that effectivly lined the surface of the feline gut like a plastic membrane rendering nutritional absorbtion more and more untenable as the fat lodged in and clogged the remaining stomata with each meal that might include pork.I recall humans not being subject to her warning however because she preseumed our cells allow the fat to be absorbed (so it can destroy our kidney's?)
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Once I was told by a doctor that pork is bad for our Body because it's meat is similar to human meat therefore  very bad to digest. The meat stays very much longer, rots and causes inflammations in the whole organism (I know again much to late!)


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The Bible warns not to eat pigs, camels, dogs, or shellfish.  Being an American, I don't think there's a whole lot of temptation to chow down on the camels and dogs, but certainly pork and shellfish.  When you look at the nasty toxic stuff that settles on the ocean floor, which shrimp and lobster then eat and store in their tissues, it's cool to see how once again God provides practical advice for what He knew would happen in our present world  


Um... shrimp and other shelfish are eaten by larger predators, which in turn are eaten by yet other predators... which we then eat, with (supposedly) the bad stuff concentrated. From thata perspective, we'd be better off eating the krill and shrimp with only first-level concentrations of 'yuck' in them, versus the game-fish that represent two- or three-times concentration of what the bottom-dwellers ate.

I think that ancient injunctions against eating seafood come from desert-dwellers who only rarely got near the sea and therefore - unlike coastal people - didn't have a clue how to tell a bad clam from a good one, and didn't know that certain algae blooms can temporarily cause the creatures that eat the algae to become toxic.  The coastal dwellers just paid attention to the conditions and the time of year, and their accumulated experience with things from the sea, and did all right.  But the folks who created the stories and the lore that eventually became the bible were more inland dwellers.  Just a thought. Could be wrong.

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Also of interest: there is a book called "Body by God" which is eerily similar to the type O diet...no dairy, no wheat, no pork, etc...with very few deviations in any food category.  Think about it- Type O was the 1st on the planet, the most common type in the world...My husband and I still follow the BTD (both O+), but it's cool to see how it matches with this Biblically-based book.  


There've been some other threads in these forums, to the effect that "O" might not have been first after all.

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I got fooled twice this summer into thinking what I was eating was not pork but beef in one case and turkey in the other. Don't ask me why but I had seconds too. I liked the taste in both instances but there was a little voice and it went unheeded. I think the effect deep down in the gut is severe in terms of it being putrifyingly not efficient and very gross at the far end . Darn I guess I should be more careful. What if you didn't know and didn't really want to eat pork? Is there a deflect combo for such a failure mode?
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I'd say just take good old Deflect or NAG, they should get you through.

Yesterday we had BLTs (mine was on ezekiel bread with romaine and no tomatoes) with pork bacon. The bacon was from a local provider and sliced to order (nice and thick!). The first thing I noticed was that there was MUCH less grease in the pan, obviously because the bacon was quite lean. It browned very nicely and didn't pop or burn as much either. The taste was mild and delicious, not salty, greasy and harsh as with commercial bacon. And I haven't noticed any side effects yet at all. Don't feel lethargic, achey or queasy--all symptoms I've had from eating commercial packaged bacon.

So--I still don't plan to eat much bacon. Once or maybe twice a year is enough for me! But when I do indulge, it will be with the best bacon I can find--NOT the nasty supermarket kind.


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