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AfricanTypeO
Tuesday, December 12, 2006, 7:52pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I know that pork is a no-no for anyone.  But I was wondering about organic, grass-fed pork.  Is that still considered nasty and an Avoid for all?

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Pigs are omnivores, not grass eaters (ruminants). So what you would look for would be pastured or pasture raised, not grass-fed, pork.


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AfricanTypeO
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Quoted from ironwood55
Pigs are omnivores, not grass eaters (ruminants). So what you would look for would be pastured or pasture raised, not grass-fed, pork.


Sure, but my question is - would such pig meat be considered acceptable for any blood groups according to the BTD?

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No, I think pork is an avoid for everyone no matter if it's organic or not.  
Just like for people who are O's wheat is an avoid no matter if it's organic wheat or not.  An avoid is an avoid no matter how you get it I guess.  


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I know that pork is a no-no for anyone.  But I was wondering about organic, grass-fed pork.  Is that still considered nasty and an Avoid for all?

Yes.  Pork contains a "panhemaglutinin" (it agglutinates all blood types) and thus is an avoid for all.  Check this puppy out:

http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/ask/archives/00000174.htm


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AfricanTypeO
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Thanks Mhameline and Peppermint.   I just did a Google on pigs and learned that they eat their own feces, have been known to attack and eat humans and are generally pretty nasty. No pigmeat for me!
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Thanks Mhameline and Peppermint.   I just did a Google on pigs and learned that they eat their own feces, have been known to attack and eat humans and are generally pretty nasty. No pigmeat for me!

Pfffft, pigs are cool animals.  However, they are best admired for their peachy qualities and not eaten, due to the aforementioned panhemaglutinin sitch.




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Delhi boy eaten by herd of pigs
A three-year-old boy has been eaten alive by a neighbour's herd of pigs on the outskirts of the Indian capital, Delhi, police say.

The boy, Ajay, strayed from the family home as his parents and other family members were having lunch.

When his mother went to look for him, she found the pigs chewing something and spotted bits of her son's clothing.

She threw stones at the animals but they turned on her. Her screams alerted neighbours who came to her rescue.

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Relatives in the village of Samaipur Badli in north-west Delhi told police the boy had been carrying bread, which might have led the animals to attack him.

A senior police official, Manish Aggarwal, said a local man who owned the pigs had been detained for causing death due to negligence.

"Three children were playing outside their house when the incident took place," Mr Aggarwal told the BBC.

"The victim, Ajay, strayed from the area but his parents or relatives were not there to save him since they were having lunch inside their house."
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That story reminds me of one of the Hannibal Lecter stories (I read the book) in which pigs were used as weapons to kill humans. Yikes. I personally like pigs, but it's good to keep in mind while they can be domesticated and kept as pets (apparently they are smarter than dogs), packs of anything are more ferocious than individuals.


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Have any of you seen the movie, Snatch?  There is a gangster in that film who feeds his human victims to his pigs.  He describes the pigs as chowing through human bone like it was butter!
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Have any of you seen the movie, Snatch?  There is a gangster in that film who feeds his human victims to his pigs.  He describes the pigs as chowing through human bone like it was butter!


I wonder what the 'yuck' response is when we think about eating an animal that will eat itself or another animal (humans are animals)? Fish eat other fish and we eat them. Interesting thoughts I'm having. Must be lunch time.


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I don't particularly care for any of the porcine family, although I truly love to eat pork, I keep it to a very occassionally occassion.

One thing that is extremely interesting:

Of ALL of the domestic animals across the board, the domestic pig is the one that will revert back to it's wild state the quickest of all.  I had known this from school, but National Geographic channel did a really interesting show on "Hogzilla" an enormous feral hog shot and buried in GA.

Nice, calm, domestic pigs will physically and mentally revert to wild pigs (feral) within months of getting lose.  They begin a physical transformation almost immediately where their hair type changes, the begin to grow tusks and their facial features change.

Weird!


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I d have wild boar anytime!!
roasted like in the times of king Arthur,with all his knights around the round table!!!!  yummmm!!

here s a quote by Dr D:
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Pork is probably inherrently OK for most type
O's, but it has got to be one of
the most antibiotic and nitrate laden meats
there is, and I like to see even
meat eaters make better choices. Wild boar
(if you could get it!) would be OK.


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Nice, calm, domestic pigs will physically and mentally revert to wild pigs (feral) within months of getting lose.  They begin a physical transformation almost immediately where their hair type changes, the begin to grow tusks and their facial features change. Weird!


This is Totally True!  

I used to live in a little place called Antlers, OK.  I heard it on pretty good authority that the boys who worked at the Sale Barn would occasionally let a piglet or two out (in the surrounding woods) during the Spring and go hunting for Wild Hogs in the  the Fall--And They Were Wild!!!!

Oh, the Antlers stories I could tell----  

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They have wild boar at my local grocery stores and also here: http://www.brokenarrowranch.com/?gclid=CKnfhc_6jYkCFRE9FQodiyBOCQ

I've always been afraid that pigs contain some rather grim bacteria and/or parasites
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I can't think of pigs without remembering what I saw as a child on the farms where people kept pigs.  They have got to be one of the most filthy animals I have ever seen, and I get the idea that they will absolutely eat anything, from the most gross, filthy stuff, to any life form that they can get in their mouths.  I heard of many babies and little children that were eaten by the family pigs.  They grew to enormous size, and regularly ate their own piglets that were not fast enough to get out of the way when "Mama Hog" rolled over.  
In the wild, perhaps they will simply be cleaner because they have a larger space to run around in.  But their waste products have WAY the worst organic smell I have ever been around!

That said . . . I used to really love the taste of bacon and pork chops!  



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Investigation into the effects of pork consumption on blood chemistry has revealed serious changes for several hours after pork is consumed.  The pork used was organic, fre of trichinosis, so the changes that occured in the blood were due to some other factor, possibly a protein unique to pork (most likely the one that contains the lectin that makes it an avoid for all blood types).  In a lab, pork is one of the best mediums for feeding the growth of cancer cells.  

I am a big believer in the intuitive eating practices of ancient cultures and look at all of the cultures that have prohibitions against pork.  It can be found in the Bible and the Koran.



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the best mediums for feeding the growth of cancer cells.  
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OMG.  You mean pork actually makes cancer cells grow?  That's awful.

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I still like the very occasional slice of bacon, but I've gone off pork completely otherwise. Never was a pork eater--to me the meat is greasy and has an aftertaste that is often unpleasant. And yes, I've seen pigs on the farm and dealt with their manure . . . if that isn't enough to put you off pork roast forever, nothing is.


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Interestingly enough most of the research done has shown the cancer connection in the meat and not the fat.  Plus most traditional cultures used pig fat (lard) and prized it but didn't eat the meat.  

I love bacon too, but it doesn't love me, makes me sick for weeks.



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I still like the very occasional slice of bacon, but I've gone off pork completely otherwise. Never was a pork eater--to me the meat is greasy and has an aftertaste that is often unpleasant. And yes, I've seen pigs on the farm and dealt with their manure . . . if that isn't enough to put you off pork roast forever, nothing is.


What sort of bacon do you have the occasional slice of?  Is it pigmeat bacon?  or perhaps beef or turkey?

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I still like the very occasional slice of bacon...


Have you tried Wellshire Turkey Bacon? Or Applegate Farms Turkey Bacon? Both are very close to the pork bacon taste (although it's been YEARS since I've eaten pork bacon, so what do I know really).


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I never did like pork bacon.  I live in apartment building and my neighbors seem to fry bacon every morning because I can smell it when I go downstairs and it makes me gag.  I hate hate hate pork and bacon and ham.  I guess I'm really lucky that I happen to hate it, since it is an Avoid.
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mmmmmmmmmmm...................I love the smell of bacon



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