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Laura P
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How about starchy veggies such as pumpkin, turnips, rutabegas,  do you combine these with protien, tofu? eggs?  any protien?



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I am by no means an expert, but I've eaten starchy vegies with protein and not had any adverse reactions. Case in point, pumpkin/tofu custard or pie.


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thank you, I used to make a fabulous tofu pumpkin custard and I was thinking eggs with pumpkin and veggies as a breakfast would be great, I just haven't eaten these thngs for a bit

What is your pumpkin tofu recipe?



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I don't have a specific recipe per se (I think the original idea came from CR4YT though), and I'm not really a measurer, but I'll take a can of pumpkin and a package of silken tofu (firm works best as the soft makes the end result too runny), then add agave nectar and spices to taste.


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On any of the "food combining" plans I have seen, starchy vegetables would be eaten at separate meals from proteins - if one is following that type of plan.


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I believe grains is what you shouldn t combine with protein.........


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I remember Dr. D saying that food combining is not an issue for A's..

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Since A's should stay away fom most animal meats it's not an issue


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In ER4YT, towards the end, on the questions section (I have the Spanish version so do not know the equivalent page on the original) Dr D. does not seem to give food combining much importance but he says (translating) "Perhaps the only valid rule for food combining is to avoid eating large portions of animal protein, like meats, with large portions of starches like bread and potatoes."

Observe he says "perhaps" and "large quantities." I wonder what is the amount of starch in the vegetables you mention. I also question sweet potato with fish or meat. For this reason I tend to eat small portions of sweet potatoes but do eat them regularly (most meals).



ps. he also mentions tofu and other vegetable proteins are excluded from the above case.

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I don't like the way I feel when I eat sweet potatoes with meat, but eaten with fish, I feel great!
However, baked squash does just fine with meat.  Maybe the squash is a less dense carb.



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It is not as starchy



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Dr. D: The only one I stress with type O is to avoid
combining meats and fish with any of the
allowed starchy vegetables in the same meal.


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These are some dinner menus for O's from CR4YT:

Veal stew with fennel
Wild and basmati rice pilaf
Steamed artichokes
Glass of wine

Grilled whole salmon with basil pesto
Grilled sweet potatoes
Romaine salad with Caesar dressing
Glass of white wine

Venison stew
Pan-fried sweet potatoes
Braised greens with garlic

Actually, most dinner menus for O’s consist of animal protein with starch.


For A’s:

Sesame chicken
Spelt noodles with grated pecorino romano cheese
Braised spring greens
Glass of red wine
Sliced mixed plums

Grilled grouper with peanut sauce, served on a bed of red lentis and rice
Steamed pumpkin
Valerian tea

Grilled rainbow trout
Glazed root vegetables
Carrot-raisin salad
Glass of wine

I am inclined to believe that dr. D. does not give food separation much importance. Now, if one wants to add in extra "protocols" then he recomends not mixing animal protein with starch.



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interestingly enough, I have to agree, most holistic docs i have talked to don't, it is more of a 'do what feels right' type thing

The thing about food combining is that it makes you stress too much and after all digestion does start in the brain



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The only way to know if food combining will benefit you is to give it a good try (sounds like something else we know of).  

Laura, since you seem to have a lot more trouble digesting than most of us, I still think you could really benefit, even if you don't food combine forever.  One thing at a time...


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Yes, it is sort of my plan to do it when adding new foods to my diet



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The Contrarian POV:

As a Squash is more of a Melon - I always ate them alone, as they are filling on their own anyway.

And it is technically a High Carb Fruit - so eat it by itself.

Never been able to validate the Food Combining Diets rationale for Squash and Melons being separate.

From the Rainbow Diet, both are 'Phase 2 - Minimal Use' foods but that doesn't really apply to combining with meat.



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ok, I'm still struggling with this food combining thing.  I want to try to eat starches like pumpkin just by themselves for a bit to get used to digesting them, but whenever I try to have a starch by itself I just don't have a saiated feeling afterwards, like I'm full but there was something missing.  Is this just something that will come once I get used to eating them seperately or do others feel this same way.  Guess, I'm trying to determine if this is a mental thing since I'm used to eating protien at every meal or if this is actual



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Try them with some ghee. It does not satiate me but you could be more succesful.

I am not sure either if it is mental or real. I once saw a program on TV that covered a series of reseach and concluded that it was the protein that gave people the sense of satiety. So it may be real.

But then again, so many people eat only starch and feel satiated.

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The thing is that no traditional culture practiced food combining, they all ate things together, even the dreaded meat and milk combo.

I've tried ghee, doesn't work just makes me want more ghee



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I think individual experimentation is important for some people in regards to food combining.  Some people can only tolerate fruit by itself, others food combine only with animal proteins and vegetables, some with the finer nuances of seperating acidic fruits with other food items.

I think one's past eating habits/patterns, current state of health, and health goals contribute to whether this is the approach one should experiment with.  

The premise of food combining is not effective if a person consumes alot of mental scrutinizing about this subject as it disrupts cortisol levels, affects stress, and interrupts salivary processes which start the digestive process.  The mere act of eating is challenged and can not be enjoyed under these circumstances.

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This is a very good point Alia, I'm glad you chimed in here.  

I think you hit it right on, I haven't eaten starches for a long time, but when I did I never ate a starch with out a protien, I grew up eating Turkey sandwiches, peanut butter with oatmeal or eggs with oatmeal, sweet potatos or lentils with turkey so it is very hard for me now to even mentally picture eating a starch by itself



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When the time is right, I think one's body will clue them into what needs to be done by giving them symptoms of digestive disstress, bloating, feelings of lethargy, and other indicators.  

I experiment with various aspects of food choices, the portion sizes/frequencies, the spacing out of my meals, and sometimes food combining to learn what to eat and how to eat my meals for optimal health and energy.

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