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Thursday, November 30, 2006, 11:14pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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AfricanTypeO, are you igbogirl/Red Meat Eater who used to be on the boards?  I recall that she also lived in NYC.

i would think there are several igbos in NYC.  But as far as I know they are all from West Africa.  Tanzania is in East Africa.
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i would think there are several igbos in NYC.  But as far as I know they are all from West Africa.  Tanzania is in East Africa.

I don't remember where she was from in Africa - your style just reminded me of her and she went through 1 or 2 name changes so I thought you might be her with a new name!  

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Whimsical, I just looked up Igbo on Wikipedia.  If you have a chance, please read the first paragraph of the link I've posted: specifically the section in BOLD.  Isn't Wikipedia meant to be neutral and unbiased??This is hilarious!!

The Igbo, sometimes (especially formerly) referred to as Ibo, are one of the largest single ethnicities in Africa. They are one of the brightest people on earth, with the genetic citizens of Owere-Umuahia axis being the most intelligent of all Igbo. Most Igbo speakers are based in southern Nigeria, where they constitute about 17% of the population; they can also be found in significant numbers in Cameroon and Equatorial Guinea. Their language is also called Igbo.

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It's the former Igbogirl here.  I still lurk from time to time.  I am trying to stick to the BTD but I keep giving in to temptations. Will be back soon - in the process of moving to Germany.  Any Germn BTDers here?  I want to insert a smiley where I'd be waving hi to you but I cannot find it.  Cheers.

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there are quite a few german btdters here.....
try the international section.......
there s a german thread there.......

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Love this thread...

And...hello Red Meat Eater(Igbogirl)-glad to see that you are still (lurking) around.  Hope all is going well with you.


P.S. AfricanTypeO-I think you should go for the Zebu also.

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Milk from the African Zebu cattle is much fatter than cow's milk, which means that the Samburus consume more than twice the amount of animal fat than the average American, and yet their cholesterol is much lower, about 170 mg/dl (3.

The higher fat content may help explain why the Zebu milk serves well in their diet.

The fat part of cows milk is not a problem from a BTD standpoint. I believe the problem mainly comes from the protein (casein) and milk sugar.

Then there is also the A1 A2 issue that Henriette_Bsec has written about a few times.
Another aspect of the milk is whether the beta-casein component of the protein is A1 type or A2 type. Although it's not conclusive at this stage, research done at Lincoln University, in New Zealand, has shown correlations between A1 milk and diseases such as heart disease and Type 1 diabetes. These diseases have no such correlations with A2 milk.

Originally, all milk was A2. About 5000 years ago there was a mutation in Europe and the A1 genes spread through cow herds. These days:

Goats and sheep milk is equivalent to A2 milk, as is human milk.
Heirloom breeds tend to have more A2, newer breeds - A1.
Different countries have a different mix between the two. For example, Iceland is mainly A2, where Finland is more A1. the level of heart disease is higher in Finland.
Masai and other African cattle only produce A2 milk, which is significant when you consider that the Masai are very healthy on a diet of mainly meat, blood and fermented milk, with little heart disease.
There is some A2 milk and cream available in New Zealand, try your organic store.

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Although I've heard statements here that this group of people are very healthy, I'd like to know their average life span, and what is it that they do die of (on average) and who's definition of "healthy" are they using?  Is it a one size fits all healthy?

We can speculate until the cows (or zebu's) come home about the health benefits of drinking small or large amounts of this milk for these people.  Until Dr. D tests and classifies buffalo and/or zebu milk for Type O's, it's like anything else that's not been tested: it's an unknown and at best, a neutral, and not a bennie.

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Facinating discussion here folks! Thanks for bringing this into the fold AfricanTypeO. Hearty welcome to you as well! I read the beginings of this thread the other day and was pleased to see the follow ups in all their variety. I didn't expect the levels of detail that emerged. Perhaps it should be restated that milk does not contain lectins as someone sounded as though they had that impression. Do I have that right? Now we know there are different properties to different milks from different distinct animals I just wanted to ask if Horse milk had been on anyones radar as well. I've known about (but never done any follow up on) the existance of a "breed" of horse native to the siberian region that was/is essential to the nomads there and was cited as a perfect homestead horse because of its many useful aspects including milk,felt, farming and transport. Up until this discussion and since sliding towards the BTD I've written off most milk indulgence but now...There seems to be room for inquiry! Thanks again for such an eye opening topic and thanks to the many and forthcoming responses.

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Hi ieatmatnlikeit,

horse milk is quite another thing!  Unlike the vast majority of milks, it has lecithin and essential fatty acids.  The original kefir yeast was made from fermented horse milk.  For many years (because both lecithin and EFA's are also integral to human milk), I presume that horse-colostrum has an activator to change digestive functions to glean eaten food (in the upcoming years) of its EFA's and digest them.

This would be very helpful to the millions of humans that were never breast fed with human-colostrum.  Obtaining such a commodity has been elusive!  [Horses are viewed as mainly large pets these days,]


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