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I see in the Encyclopedia it says under beer for A's:
Provokes abnormal blood reaction.
No info on beer in LR4YT. (looking in Index)

I cannot put my hands on my Diabetic book, so I'm hoping I can get some answers here. What exactly does this mean and especially in relation to hypoglycemia. My DH had a headache and was dizzy tonight.  We both wonder if his intermittent hypo symptoms are related to the beer. Easy way to find out would be to stop drinking for a week and see, but I'd like to understand this for my self, if that could possibly be the problem. I didn't see any info on it in the ER4YT either. (Index)

Also if there are any A's w/ personal experience on how beer affects them, I'd love to hear. This would not pertain to hard liquor, as he never drinks that.
Thanks so much.




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Hi IB!

I checked the LR and find that beer is for O and A  a type 2 Avoid...

So, unless you are nonsecretor or chronically ill, you must avoid Beer...

I checked the Diabetic book as well:

Beer is to be AVOIDED  for O and for A....

Sorry...

I myself am an A and if I do drink beer, I notice it immediately by bubbling, gorgling in my belly, but no pain..
I only drink a beer when I eat chinese food... Not the food from the shop, but I make my own...
Chinese food from the shop gives me diarrhea for 2 days..  It is not worth the fun of eating out, is my opinion..

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Can't tolerate it,way too many empty carbs, surprised it's even ok for an A nonnnie, I'm betting it will go back to avoid status in GTD.


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I know he should avoid beer  , but..............
I myself don't drink it.
I'm just trying to find out what reactions it causes in A blood type, specifically w/ someone w/ hypoglycemia.
And what does "Flocculates serum or precipitates serum proteins" mean?  



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Heidi, on beer:
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the central culprit is
the alcohol from the malted barley; however,
the combination of grain carbs and alcohol (as
in beer and Scotch) and the addition of
carbonation (in beer) work together to produce
their synergy of troublesomeness.


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Quoted from pkarmeier
And what does "Flocculates serum or precipitates serum proteins" mean?  

Quoted from Dr. D
Flocculation is the process by which serum antibodies come out of solution and precipitate; similiar to when making 'rock candy,' the sugar comes out of solution and latches on to the string.

Flocculation is a clear sign of an antibody reaction. Most of the flocculation I report results from avoids reacting with anti-blood type antibodies.

Most flocculation reactions are 'anomalous', in that they require the presence of a primary high-affinity, non-precipitating antibody (which may or may not be blood type specific; more usually bacterial-induced) that must be saturated with the food antigen before the remaining 'conventional' (blood type specific) antibodies bind and precipitate the additional antigen.

'Flocculate' is an old Greek word, meaning to produce white cloud-like tuffs in solution.

Often these antibody/antigen complexes (or 'Immune Complexes') activate other latent parts of the immune system, and which can result in inflammation and auto-immune disease. This is often done by stimulating the body's complement system.

Flocculates serum or precipitates serum
http://web.indstate.edu/thcme/PSP/labtests/precip.htm
It makes the IgM antibodies found in your blood type clump up and come out of solution (precipitate)


Per Wiki: Flocculation




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As a blood type A, I do not drink beer and have no desire to drink it.  It has been ages since I have had an alcoholic beverag other than red wine.  I think the carbonation and fermention in beer would cause stomach disstress and disrupt and digestive system for a few days.

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I used to drink beer all the time & I am hypoglycemic this I found out about several years ago but took several more years to come with to grasp the fact that beer was BAD for me, BAD BAD BAD.
after I drank a few I would crave sugars of any kind I would usually eat some sweet stuff I would then be ok for a while then take a serious dive in energy and feel crappy. The next day I would be sluggish tired and extra thirsty and crave more sugars or junk food of any kind. It would take me several days to get back to normal. IT was hard for me to get away from beer but after I did it was so worth the benifts of feeling good and not having a messed up feeling stomach all the time.
a sip of white wine is now my drink of choice. Another huge work I practice is moderation in anything I eat or drink.
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Drinking beer gives me a headache....and not 6 or 8. Drinking just one or two will give me a dull/lingering headache for a day or so.
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Great info everyone, please keep it coming!!  



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As with most avoids, beer gives me constipation.


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As with most avoids, beer gives me constipation.


Ha! My DH says w/o it, he gets constipated. Think it's all in his mind?  



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When I was in Ireland, and I drank Guinness there, it actually helped me to go; but the beer they serve there is unpasteurized. You can't get unpasteurized beer here (as far as I know), unless you make it yourself. I suggest Polyflora A instead of beer for his constipation.


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When I was in Ireland, and I drank Guinness there, it actually helped me to go; but the beer they serve there is unpasteurized. You can't get unpasteurized beer here (as far as I know), unless you make it yourself. I suggest Polyflora A instead of beer for his constipation.


Astute observation - virtually all beer is filtered, pasteurized, and/or sterilized other than a few American microbrews, British Ale, or Belgian Lambics...even the filtered beer acts differently in the body than good old homemade that still has the trub.
And if you ever get the chance to try beer made with water thats never been chlorinated and pumped through metal piping you will notice even more intriguing things.

Then there is the african Millet, Sorghum, and Teff beers. Buckwheat or Rye Beers.
Pumpkin Beer {made from Pumpkin NOT the Pie-Flavoured muck sold in stores}.


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I used to enjoy beer.  One or two at the most.  After I started the BTD my system just couldn't handle it any more.  If I had a few slurps I'm sure I'd be OK but I can't drink even one bottle.  I feel bloated.


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Bloated is a good way to put it. Beer does that to me as well. Unfortunately, I really like a good stout, so once in a great while I will indulge; even though I know what will happen.


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Quoted from outdoordrea
Bloated is a good way to put it. Beer does that to me as well. Unfortunately, I really like a good stout, so once in a great while I will indulge; even though I know what will happen.


Have you tried Deflect before and after? Just curious if it helps.



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No i haven't; but that's an interesting thought.


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I dont seem to have issues with beer and thats good because me and my boyfriend really love it, he is a AB secretor. But Im wondering if I should give it up since I went grain free to try and control my weight as well as my hypothyroidism, but I havent given up beer. It is something to think about and maybe my digestion will even out too. We will see, it might take me some time to decide. I wonder what any of you think.
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Lager Bier makes me bloated {My theory: virtually all has been pasteurized and/or filtered} - Real Ale not soo much.
Stouts are not lagered.

My preference these days is for is Dry Cydre {Scrumpy} or Perry...they don't make bloated or  


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I dont seem to have issues with beer and thats good because me and my boyfriend really love it, he is a AB secretor. But Im wondering if I should give it up since I went grain free to try and control my weight as well as my hypothyroidism, but I havent given up beer. It is something to think about and maybe my digestion will even out too. We will see, it might take me some time to decide. I wonder what any of you think.


Wouldn't hurt to give it up for a couple of weeks and see if there is any improvement. If so, then there is your answer, if not, then have a beer!!  

Drea, how much Polyflora a day would you recommend for constipation?



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Drea, how much Polyflora a day would you recommend for constipation?


I take one in the morning on an empty stomach and one before bed along with my second CalMag tablet (also hopefully on an empty stomach *lol*).


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Drea, I could just     your feet (I think).  Re: your recommendation of using Polyflora for constipation. I was asking about that more for me than the DH. I took 3 last night and 3 this morning and a miracle!!!  I was just going to take some 'more drastic measures' today, now maybe I won't need to go that route. Will keep up the Polyflora and see what happens. I think my adrenals (or lack thereof ) have everything so out of whack, my body just doesn't have a clue anymore what it's supposed to do. I do, however, see brighter days ahead.



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IB, I'm glad it's working for you!



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