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Whimsical
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I know I read it on the forum somewhere.  I'm almost positive it was Dr. D who said it.  Something about fat doesn't make you fat, carbs do and it was specifically omething about that the insulin loop/pathway....something like that, is not triggered by fat but by carbohydrates.

Does anyone remember this?  I'm trying to find the quote and haven't had much luck searching.


Here's a basic explanation from my Biochem class:
Insulin is the key hormone that allows adipocytes (fat cells) to take in glucose.  Adipocytes must have glucose in order to form triglycerides (fat) as they convert it into the glycerol backbone to which fatty acids are attached.  Insulin release is triggered by blood glucose levels.

So, eat a lot of carbs, flood the blood with glucose, glucose used to make energy and glycogen, then EXCESS glucose is used to make triglycerides which are stored in the body.  

The body is highly efficient and does not let go of energy, so if you have extra, the body will find a way to store it for later (therefore: create excess fat).


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yes KK, insulin resistance is what you re looking for.

here s a good read on lectins and weight loss......
lectins that mimic insulin resistance....excess carbs.....insulin receptors
https://www.dadamo.com/napharm/gk8.htm


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Lola,
How can we currently access that site on Continuing Education that you just posted the link for KK?



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here s the index
http://www.dadamo.com/napharm/productindex.htm

I got it through the general search button on the home page


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I wasn't able to find the way to access that link from the home page.  Once I get to the home page, where do I go from there, Lola?  That's a very helpful page of explanations.



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I wouldn t know........found it while doing the general search.......
so I d add the link of the index I just gave you to your favorites, for future reference.


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Thanks, Lola.  I think that page is connected with the older version of this website, and is not actually part of this currect one.  So what you have is a treasure!  



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yes, even the background is from the other boards......
keeping the link to the index is always handy....


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Well, thanks, again.  I have saved the link, and consider it a key to the past.  I notice the old NAP used to sell siberian ginseng, shea butter, and various other things no longer available through the store.



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Lola,

Thanks for retrieving and posting Dr. Kelly's writing for us.


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Let me get this correctly - for a B

I should go full fat dairy
eat my meats and dairy according to listed amounts and frequency
watch my carbs i. e. oats, rice, bread, etc.
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Yes Brenna - you´ve got it
And IF you need to loose weight- eat less grain/the lowest frequency and get more veggies instead_ but never skip good B fat


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I am just reading a book called "8 Weeks to Vibrant Health" by Dr. Hyla Cass. She stated (and I have read this other places too) that back in the 1980's the doctors were telling everyone to eat "low fat". My own doctor did the same and said it was the only way to lose weight. As Dr. Cass said, they now are looking back on that and finding that this was when obesity really rose in North America. I know I was taking "Lean Cuisine" meals as lunches to work and they were doing nothing for me - still hungry and did not feel well. Now we know they were mostly white pasta and white rice based - remember when doctors told you that pasta was good for you because it was low fat? Also remember when doctors all told us to use margarine as a healthy alternative - now we know most were made with trans fats which they said was worse for us than using natural fat like butter!

The correct thing to do now is to use the beneficial or neutral oils and watch the saturated fats and to use organic everything as much as possible.

It is frustrating to all of us I'm sure to be told that we have to do something and then a few years later told "oops, we were wrong". Basically I almost think that doctors conspire with the food and drug companies to use everyday people as their guinea pigs to get reseach information by having the consumer pay both out of pocket and with their insurance!

I like Dr. Cass's approach that many things have common reasons and simple, non-drug solutions.  
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Thanks, Lola.  I think that page is connected with the older version of this website, and is not actually part of this currect one.  So what you have is a treasure!  

Most of these articles are in the current NAP Product Knowledge Base, which is available from the NAP website in the left-hand menu.

It appears that at least some of the articles that are not included are obsolete, such as the entry about the old NAP protein bars.



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oh!
Thanks, Don.  That's a big help.  Everytime I went to Product Knowledge base, I was getting an article instead of the index.  This time I searched further, and found what you are linking to.  I appreciate it!  
p.s.  Hope you are doing well, these days!  



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