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Brenna
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I need some advice here.

Do any other Bs count calories, or should I just forego the calorie counting thing?

Is Muesli okay? I soak oats in milk for a couple of hours in the refrigerator, add yogurt, sugarless jam and maybe additional sweetener. is this okay for Bs?

I'm also trying to clean up my diet - get the condiments out (too much sugar) and all of that stuff.

I have bad sweet cravings, and I have PCOS, and at high-risk to get diabetes and have major fatigue problems. All this with 3 kids.

Should I have protein for breakfast  and muesli for dinner?

I'm not eating chicken or corn, but peanut butter and wheat are still a part of my diet. Those are so hard to get out.

I would deeply appreciate some "extra" dietary guidelines.
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Hi Brenna
No I don´t count calories- but at times I count my servings of food- from the LRT book- just to make sure things balance- often it doesn´t: I get too much grains and too little protein- in stressfull periods  

I think muesli IF it contains no avoids are fine- but oats counts as grains so IF you eat oats in the morning you should eat less or no grain the rest of the day.
It is good and important that you soak oats/muesli- continue doing that.
What about some fresh fruit instead of the jam- yesterday I used oats, full fat yoghurt, apples and dry cranberries. It was very good- it needed no extra sweetener becouse the yoghurt was full fat - and not tart at all.

You say you have pcos and sweet cravings- so I think maybe you should try to get more protein into you diet in the morning- like eggs, veggies, cheese or turkey sausages.
I find that my cravings stop if my breakfast is more protein /fat oriented than grain/fruit - but at busy mornings I still like the oats sometimes.
I would not have the muesli for dinner- but maybe as a afternoon snack ?

Have you looked at the tread I made about mealsizes etc- maybe some of the good advice I got can help you.
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what about a late night snack before I go to bed? I find I can't stop eating at around 7 and go to bed at 10. When I have a late night snack I can sleep better without waking up for a snack in the middle of the night.

I heard somewhere about having breakfast for dinner so I thought muesli for dinner.

can other bs please tell me what they do?
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Hi Brenna,
It's very important for me to have a breakfast that is well balanced.  I don't eat like the O's, with meat and veggies for breakfast.  But I couldn't make it on a high starch/low protein breakfast, either.  Museli for breakfast would wreck my day!  I know, I used to eat it!  

I think starches are best eaten in the late evening, making sure that for breakfast and into lunch you get lots of protein.  If I was going to eat museli, which I don't, I would eat it at night.  But oats, make me very hungry and mess with my blood sugar level.  That's why I don't touch them any more.  I have my one grain food, my toasted rice cake with almond/walnut butter/blackstrap molasses as my evening snack.  Very satisfying and helps me go to sleep fast.

My breakfast is a blender drink with frozen blueberries and cherries (beneficial), bananas, full fat yogurt, nutritional yeast, lecithin, freshly ground flax seeds and powdered green foods.

Maybe if you buy almond butter, and stir in finely chopped walnuts, you can get away from the peanut butter!

I don't count calories.  But I do watch Dr. D's portion and frequency recommendations, and I stay away from grains for the most part.  They really pack the weight onto us B's.



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Hi Brenna,
 I have my one grain food, my toasted rice cake with almond/walnut butter/blackstrap molasses as my evening snack.  Very satisfying and helps me go to sleep fast.
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Sounds really good - I am getting a bit tired of my banana/ nut goodnight meal.


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I had problems with PCOS as well and it can be frustrating. Just watch your simple carbohydrates like white sugar and such. They can aggrevate the problem.  I am not a big fan though of the fake sugars, even Splenda. They just do not taste good and they seem to be more synthetic chemical than a food. You can get good sugarless jam that is made from crushed fruit rather than with artificial sweeteners. If you have a sweet craving, try to go with something like an apple - sweet but with lots of fiber and other good things. Try to gradually wean yourself from eating candy or other type of sweets. I know if I begin eating too much chocolate, that it almost fuels the cravings! I still eat dark chocolate but in moderation. That is the key - if you go into total denial and a very spartan diet approach, it won't take long to get bored or discouraged with that.

I was not much of a fruit eater, but lately have been turning to it more. For a long time, people said fruit had too many calories and sugar, now of course they say we have to each several servings per day. So just begin by having some fresh fruit each day. Start with the ones that have less sugar just to help keep things under control there are even canned fruit now that are not made with syrup but packed in juice and I find these are good too. It takes a little time but you will find that your cravings will go down.

I certainly know how you feel and it can help to follow the Blood Type Diet especially if you aim for as many foods as you can in the beneficial category. Also try to do some kind of exercise each day - I know everyone says that but with those of us who deal with or have dealt with PCOS, it just helps keep the blood sugar levels in check. Start by walking if you like that or light aeobics and you will find that helps a lot and just be consistent. The times I had problems was when things were hectic and I did not pay close attention to diet and exercise.

Finally, there was also a good article on the web a while back that said if you do get cysts on your ovaries or fibroids, that taking tub baths help. You need to sit in a warm tub and the water should be past your waist. Keep the water warm and sit there for about 20 min. The idea here is that it helps the circulation in your abdomen. I tried it and it actually did work.  Hang in there, if you stick with things you will see it improve.
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Thank you so much. I didn't realize there were other bs like me with pcos. I think I'll have to do that. I'm going to start tomorrow having protein or yogurt shakes and since I don't have frozen berries, I think jam and a banana is going to have to do. Yes I know a banana has tons of sugar - but I'm thinking maybe a half?

I actually have leslie sansone's WATP Express, easy mile 1, brisk walk 2 mile and advanced 3 mile. So maybe I'll try for atleast the 1 mile 5-6 days a week. Just to start. Its to be consistent from too excited, doing too much, and then going back at it for like at least 3-4 days.

Were you able to lose the pcos weight and other symptoms? Just curious. I might have to start a pcos thread or something.
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Somewhat thankfully, I've never been much of a Breakfast person.
Personally a mug of fresh juice is my preferred wakeup.

The oats  I like is Steel Cut {also called Pinhead or Scottish}, and the way to do this the best is scald the milk and soak the oats over night in the milk....

Even so, the various Millets I've always liked cooked with Buckwheat, Amaranth, or Red Quinoa.

Grains are the toughie to give up, i only do the above on occasion anyway. My real deal is GABA Brown Rice with Yoghurt, Honey, and Figs.

I'm hoping for some BTD Avoids becoming Benie with the upcoming Genotype Diet.


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I'm hoping for some BTD Avoids becoming Benie with the upcoming Genotype Diet.

Would be nice , but what if it goes the other way?      


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I started BTD for health reasons, but also hoped to lose some weight.  I didn't lose anything at all.  I was still having some compliant grains, and I still watched calories, but nothing happened.  I've heard that weight loss for B's is particularly hard.

Then I heard about the book "Mastering Leptin" from a post on this website - I think it was from EquiPro (so if you're reading this, EquiPro, maybe you could comment!).  I changed to this pattern of eating, and have slowly lost 15 lbs. over the past year.  I have NOT eaten fewer calories or become more compliant with the BTD, just changed how I eat.  The main thing I learned was the importance of having long breaks between meals, giving the body time to burn carbs AND fats.  The common wisdom of eating small meals and snacks is counter to this view.  I recommend you read it.  It really helped.

Good luck.
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Then I heard about the book "Mastering Leptin" from a post on this website - I think it was from EquiPro (so if you're reading this, EquiPro, maybe you could comment!).  I changed to this pattern of eating, and have slowly lost 15 lbs. over the past year.  I have NOT eaten fewer calories or become more compliant with the BTD, just changed how I eat.  The main thing I learned was the importance of having long breaks between meals, giving the body time to burn carbs AND fats.  The common wisdom of eating small meals and snacks is counter to this view.  I recommend you read it.  It really helped.
Good luck.


Thanks for making this point.  We have discussing the topic of snacking (grazing) on another thread about weightloss.  Is there any more information you could share with us on why long breaks between meals encourages the body to burn both carbs and fats?




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Victoria,

You would have to read the book to get the actual scientific explanation.  The best I can summarize, though, is that when you are constantly introducing food into the body with frequent eating, the body only burns the the calories you put into it for energy.  It never gets a chance to burn the fat that is stored already.  When there is at least five hours between meals, the body burns the carbs and other calories for energy, and then can burn the stored fat.  This also is supposed to reset the leptin regulating system.  My understanding is that leptin resistance is sort of similar to insulin resistance, but again, I am not very clear at explaining it scientifically, and the book is better at explaining it.

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My daughter, who is trying to conceive after tubular reversal, just found out she has all the sympthoms of PCOS and is going to mention it to her ob/gyn.  She heard or read( that glucose has something to do with the ova dropping down or not dropping down, that a message is sent to the brain to do one or the other depending on your glucose level at the time the decision needs to me made, so women are taking a diabetic medication so there brain is alerted and within 30 days quite a few women were pregnant.  

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You would have to read the book to get the actual scientific explanation.  The best I can summarize, though, is that when you are constantly introducing food into the body with frequent eating, the body only burns the the calories you put into it for energy.  It never gets a chance to burn the fat that is stored already.  When there is at least five hours between meals, the body burns the carbs and other calories for energy, and then can burn the stored fat.  This also is supposed to reset the leptin regulating system.  My understanding is that leptin resistance is sort of similar to insulin resistance, but again, I am not very clear at explaining it scientifically, and the book is better at explaining it.
Gail

Actually, that makes a lot of sense.  You did a good job of simplifying what is probably a complicated science.  Thanks!  



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My doctor told me, years after I finally conceived again, that the medical profession was prescribing something called glucophage (sp) which was a diabetic medication but also was supposed to help reverse or treat the PCOS problem. He also said it was supposed to help with weight loss although they didn't recommend it strictly as a weight loss aid.

I do know that when I had my problems, that caffeine and refined products really seemed to make or create the problem. Also, there has been talk that those with PCOS do not get enough sunlight (vitamin D) and looking back, when I was working long hours and not getting out enough during daylight hours, that would make sense. Also read that when they tested PCOS human eggs that they were whiter in comparison to a healthier ones with yellow coloration, and the explaination was that women who had PCOS seemed to not eat enough yellow pigmented fruits, vegetables and eggs (leutin containing products). This also made sense.

I learned all of this on my own because my own doctor, who was a nice guy, just was not up on the latest. Sometimes we have to take charge of our own health because even the doctors don't have up to the minute info. Just surfing the web would probably tell you more than they can provide, which is too bad!
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I need some advice here.

Do any other Bs count calories, or should I just forego the calorie counting thing?

Is Muesli okay? I soak oats in milk for a couple of hours in the refrigerator, add yogurt, sugarless jam and maybe additional sweetener. is this okay for Bs?

I'm also trying to clean up my diet - get the condiments out (too much sugar) and all of that stuff.

I have bad sweet cravings, and I have PCOS, and at high-risk to get diabetes and have major fatigue problems. All this with 3 kids.

Should I have protein for breakfast  and muesli for dinner?

I'm not eating chicken or corn, but peanut butter and wheat are still a part of my diet. Those are so hard to get out.

I would deeply appreciate some "extra" dietary guidelines.


Hi.
what I have found out about myself is I am hypoglycemic {sorry about the spelling}
after a blood test that took several hours to complete.  I will have up and downs of energy. stay away from sugars and foods that get into our system to fast that gives us the ups and downs of energy. the glycemic index helps to find the foods that are good and not so good. wheat is a no no for b's and I am really a believer now after not having wheat stuff for several weeks that I am allergic to it. the swelling in my hands have gone down greatly and I just feel better by not eating any wheat stuff. there are other things to substitute for the wheat cravings.
btw I am constantly craving sweets and sugars and all of that stuff. I still don't know how to control this other that either giving in and having a slice of spelt toast with honey a pickle or give in an have something we shouldn't have- last resort and I am finding that the latter I am able to control a little more every day.

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You're doing so well, Rodney!  

I'm another B who found out how much of a poison wheat is, only after having stopped eating it.  I did eat spelt toast for a couple of years, and gradually weaned myself off of it and all other gluten-containing grains.  I feel much better without it all!
The only grain I eat now is a Lundberg organic Mochi Rice Cake every evening, lightly toasted with a combination of raw almond butter and chopped walnuts, drizzled with a little bit of blackstrap molasses.  It meets that need for crunch and carb and sweet and all those goodies, without eating any avoids.



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Rodney,
whenever you are craving sweets and sugars, have some protein instead......the cravings will subside with time!


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Rodney,
whenever you are craving sweets and sugars, have some protein instead......the cravings will subside with time!


thanks Lola will give that a try, just seems like I would fall back in to my low carb diet I tried the first of the year which I think wasn't good for me and helped bring on the diviculitus thing?? maybe not and I am sure I did something wrong when on the atkins diet.
proteins.....first thing comes to mind is meats and beans what else could we eat when the urges show up?  
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eggs, cheese, maybe some yoghurt- all contains - both fat AND protein- some more than other.
I have found out that when I crave sugar- I can be sure that my protein has been low that day - and maybe even the fat. A hardboiled egg - a slice of cheese or maybe some yoghurt - brings me back again

Why atkins didn´t work ?
Well I tried doing a combo of Atkins and B diet- and it did work pretty good for me- specially the medium stage with more carbs added- BUT BUT I am sure That if I had done a 100 % atkins I would have felt sick.
No dairy except cheese and butter I first felt really good when I added more fruit and dairy and nuts back in my diet. BUT the low grain or no grain approach was ok and I did not have ANY of the suagr cravings that I used to.


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Yes of course that should do it!
just need to have the eggs and cheeses ready, thats what I have found that is really helping me, prepare it ahead of time then it's easy to grab. Now I maybe see a little better where the cravings are coming from to. I have cut a lot of proteins out and replaced with veggies need to think of a more complete diet and not get stuck on one food group. IT is hard to shift the way I used to eat and not fall back in to bad habits.
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Many people find that it helps to put it in writing.  If you have a copy of LY4YT (the best in my opinion) you can make yourself a cheat sheet, showing the quantities and frequencies of all our compliant foods, that Dr. D recommends for our blood type.  That is what makes all the difference in my opinion, in kicking this way of life up to a new level of success.



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