Quoted from Victoria

You're too kind!  

The truth is, I find the BTD very easy to follow.  What really took a lot of strength was suffering through so many years of pain before I found the BTD!  My life is a pleasure now, and that makes everything simple and sweet!  

I have to agree with that ... it's so true that when people r sick and tired of suffering, they make the NECESSARY changes !!!
That's why I tried to look for help and consequently a way of eating healthy but that would also be ENJOYABLE 'cause I love food !!!
hehehe
and ThankGod I found BDT !!!  

Quoted from yaman

My conclusion: Rye manna is beneficial for B's.

Well certainly not for this B  
Rye is VERY common here- it used to be my favorite kind of bread
- so when I started I found some sprouted  100 % rye bread  - but the reaction was absolutely horrible.
Every time it has been the same- and BTW I am NOT gluten intolerent
- and I find that not even wheat bread gave me such a violent reaction:
Stomach pains- diarea- itching feeling from my mounth to my bottom  
So I have to agree with the rest.

Hi Henriette,

Another evidence that we are all different..

My son is quite sensitive to avoids, he never had a problem with rye manna. But I make sure the sprouting is to the desired amount and that there are no unsprouted berries left, as he is so sensitive.

Again, as you had shown: our bodies tell us the best..

Cheers,
Yaman

I agree  
ryebread is still a speciel- but a small serving at the traditional christmas lunch - it works so well lots of the sadly avoid danish christmas food.....

Quoted from lola

now for all you experts out there:
where is it stated that sprouted rye is ok for Bs?
I must have missed that part somewhere.......

Lola'cim,

I've found this in Heidi's column:

"In the classic grains such as wheat, spelt, rye and oats, sprouting does destroy the lectin."

http://www.dadamo.com/columns/begin/ask2.pl?20041219.txt

Cheers,
Yaman

wow Yaman'cim!!!
chok tesekurler!!

can you give me the name of the entry, the title, cause I get the index with your link.....thanks!

De nada, Lola'cim,

Unfortunately I can't get further than the index, but what I posted is the exact sentence and link when I searched the dadamo.com.

The search function does not seem to work within Heidi's entries. I'll have to look up one-by-one among the relevant titles

Cheers,
Yaman

oh ok!
I ll try find it too, cause I m interested in the context as well.....
thanks!
oyunmak lasim sen!!! )

I have the deepest respect for Heidi- she was a very kind woman whit lots of help and knowledge- I hope she still are well !
BUT - I am still not sure about this for the B´s
- for sensitives B´s I would still treat sprouted rye as an avoid.
Find it really odd that a avoid should turn beneficial just by sprouting- neutral yes- but benefical is just ??????

Hi Henriette,

Wheat is the worst avoid for O's. Yet it turns out to be beneficial when sprouted. So it happens.. One can find examples of plants with poisonous fruits but beneficial leaves or vice versa. Like mustard being neutral for O's but mustard leaves avoid. As for the grains, berries and sprouts are two different forms of the plant. Remember, wheat grass is not an avoid either.

As for sprouted rye, I think you'd rely on what your body is telling you. I've seen it worked for a B, but there can well be other (genetic?) factors in play too.

Cheers,
Yaman

Thanks Yaman

Quoted from lola

oh ok!
I ll try find it too, cause I m interested in the context as well.....
thanks!
oyunmak lasim sen!!! )

Lola'cim,

I've found it:

http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/otd/archives/00000818.htm

see, güzel uyudum ben

Cheers,
Yaman

chock guzel!!
bende chock guzel oyondum, ama biras yani!!
great find, Yaman'cim!
found this quote, in my notes.......(no link, sorry!)
but it is from the old archives, by Dr D:

Quoted Text

Greg Kelly gave me an interesting article on
baking bread with bomelain. In the study,
subjects who were sensitive to glutens (and
probably lectins) in the grains were able to
digest the bread when it was baked with the
pineapple enzyme.

Lola'cim,

Your lucky day today

http://www.mothernature.com/Library/bookshelf/Books/23/16.cfm

scroll down and you'll see it, it's a Japanese study.

the more you sleep........the more you find!!!  

chock merci!

Quoted from yaman

...As for sprouted rye, I think you'd rely on what your body is telling you. I've seen it worked for a B, but there can well be other (genetic?) factors in play too...

Interesting thread - I'd guess that its a Secretor Status difference in us Bees...not enough of us know our status though.

Sourdough or Sprouted Rye doesn't bother me, the other grains do horribly.

The other thing is Corn straight from a garden digests fine - but any store bought, or nonorganically grown corn basically goes straight thru, and causes horrible upset....