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| Charles_Wolfe |
| Wednesday, October 25, 2006, 4:45pm |
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Dr. Dark Anti-Oxidant Mix
What do you guys think about this:
semi-sweet chocolate [sugar, chocolate, liquor processed w/alkali, cocao butter, butter oil, soy lecitin, vanilla], almonds, cranberries, sugar, monounsaturated sunflower oil, sea salt, confectioner's glaze. contains milk, soy and nuts.
I am type O with bad bad bad knees so I guess chocolate is to be treated as an avoid right? Anyway, what about for my mom's and stuff, what do you make of it guys?
Tak (Icelandic for thanks!), I heard Iceland is soo super nice. Volcanoes flowing, steam and hotsprings everywhere and just the friendliest place. |
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Lola |
| Wednesday, October 25, 2006, 4:57pm |
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liquor processed, monounsaturated sunflower oil, confectioner's glaze, contains milk........ those don t sound alright to me.
mentions nuts, but which nuts?
best is to make your own chocolate with no avoids.......
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| Charles_Wolfe |
| Wednesday, October 25, 2006, 5:00pm |
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Yeah that would be pretty fun (making your own), I'll check out the recipe section, do you have any favs or other recipes?
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Lola |
| Wednesday, October 25, 2006, 5:23pm |
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a member shared this one a while back:
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choc 8 ounces of non sweet bakerschocolate, 4 to 6 tablespoons of vegetable glycerin, compliant chopped nuts or flax seed meal, dried fruit if candida isn't a problem, 1 teaspoon vanilla extract. Melt chocolate, add other ingredients, spread out on waxed paper, and cool till it hardens.
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Alia Vo |
| Wednesday, October 25, 2006, 5:24pm |
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| Wednesday, October 25, 2006, 5:35pm |
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There are some chocolates out there that are OK for O's.. Try Endangered Species brand which can be found at Whole Foods for example. Jane |
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| Wednesday, October 25, 2006, 5:45pm |
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also Ghirardelli Unsweetened Chocolate Baking Bar has no avoids I believe..... but I think you do not live in U.S., right? |
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| Wednesday, October 25, 2006, 5:51pm |
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Quoted from Charles_Wolfe
Dr. Dark Anti-Oxidant Mix
What do you guys think about this:
semi-sweet chocolate [sugar, chocolate, liquor processed w/alkali, cocao butter, butter oil, soy lecitin, vanilla], almonds, cranberries, sugar, monounsaturated sunflower oil, sea salt, confectioner's glaze. contains milk, soy and nuts.
I am type O with bad bad bad knees so I guess chocolate is to be treated as an avoid right? Anyway, what about for my mom's and stuff, what do you make of it guys?
The good news is, Jane is right, there are several really good brands of compliant chocolate out there for O secretors, such as Endangered Species and Dagoba. Reading the ingredients list and comparing it to Typebase4 for avoids is the key to staying on the straight and narrow. But I can tell ya right now that "confectioner's glaze" is CORN sugar, so I'd stay far away from that brand just based on that alone. The milk is also an avoid, and there are some smaller issues, so I'd go for one of the purer, compliant brands mentioned. Enjoy! |
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The lavender version is just sooooooo gooood  I can´t get all the varieties here and they are VERY expensive - but I must say that I find: Dagoba probably the best chocolate in the world......( no it is not the best lager in the world ( Carlsberg  ) |
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| Wednesday, October 25, 2006, 6:31pm |
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Dagoba is "da bomb", for sure! But don't they use cane juice? I thought that was an avoid for everybody. (too lazy to check, this morning) That Endangered Species Panther Bar has one of the highest (if not the highest) amount of chocolate I've seen (something like 83, or 87% ? ). Great source of antioxidants! Plus their sugar content is very low, for those of you who can eat sugar. I tend to work from the unsweetened cocoa powders, myself, non-sugar eater that I am.  |
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well I have eaten my last piece so I can´t check.....  Any way I am not sure I care ... I feel wonderfull when I eat it - and I rarely eat a lot ...... |
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Victoria |
| Wednesday, October 25, 2006, 6:48pm |
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Quoted from Henriette_Bsec
 Any way I am not sure I care ... I feel wonderfull when I eat it - ......
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| Wednesday, October 25, 2006, 7:34pm |
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Why would cane juice be bad? Isn't that what plain old fashioned sugar is made from (before they discovered corn syrup etc.)? |
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Lola |
| Wednesday, October 25, 2006, 7:47pm |
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here, a quote by Dr D:
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Raw cane sugar possesses a B-antigen degrading enzyme Much like certain preparations of soy. In essence, the enzyme digests your blood type. Not so good for the mucus of your GI tract. It appears to be in the mineral (or ash) portion of the food, which is much lower in the other refined commercial forms. Prolonged boiling (as in molasses making) inactivates it. As an avoid it is only a Tier II value (optional in otherwise healthy individuals), so don't get too bent out of shape. B non secretors may want to take this more seriously though, especially if obese; and B secretors if prone to gut permeability issues.
so no worries there unless you re a B non, like Victoria! ) |
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| Wednesday, October 25, 2006, 11:04pm |
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Gee whiz, kids,
I'm so jealous! |
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I absolutely love the Endangered Species Black Panther Bar! The Panther Bar has an exquisite taste, and amazing smoothness for such rich, deep chocolate, and satisfies me to the depth of my soul--and all for just a couple of bucks! I used to be a Huge Candy Bar eater before I nearly entered my final illness a month ago, and before I started BTD shortly thereafter. While I would theoretically do better with no Candy Bar, in reality, I can absolutely stick with the BTD because the Black Panther Bar waits for me at the end of each week.  Life is Good! |
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| Saturday, November 4, 2006, 5:48am |
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Bad news on the chocolate front.
According to a friendly clerk at our big natural food store, Dagoba has just been bought by Hersheys. He swears it's the truth! |
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Bad news on the chocolate front.
According to a friendly clerk at our big natural food store, Dagoba has just been bought by Hersheys. He swears it's the truth!
Hershey also bought Scharffen Berger earlier this year...prior to that, also very good chocolate (imho). |
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| Saturday, November 4, 2006, 5:57pm |
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Is Hersheys a company to be trusted? I don't think so! So all Dagoba and Scharffen Berger eaters, just keep reading those labels very closely. Ingredients have a way of changing when owners change hands.
I'm still rootin' for Endangered species Panther Bar. |
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I, too, love the endangered species brand. Some of their bars have "water-filtered beet sugar" - does anyone know anything about that? Is it better or worse in terms of sugar for a non-secretor? My very favorite is the dark mint chocolate with the gorillas on front.  |
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Thanks, Lola. It sure feels good when I'm eating it.  And beet sugar vs. cane sugar? What of that? In my mind, I've convinced myself it's better, since I like that brand so much! Just beet it, beet it, beet it, beet it.... |
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I believe beets are ok for your type, right? always check typebase to be on the safe side!
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Just beet it, beet it, beet it, beet it....
 ahhh, thanks for the memory. Love me some Michael Jackson music. Too bad he went to the 'other side', wherever that is!  |
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Remember, I have shared how I eat the unsweetened Ghirardelli with a banana since I can't have any sugar. To me it tastes good & helps the craving. Also, if you can tolerate black coffee, try black chocolate--powered unsweetened in hot water. Mrs "T" O+ |
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Remember, I have shared how I eat the unsweetened Ghirardelli with a banana since I can't have any sugar. To me it tastes good & helps the craving. Also, if you can tolerate black coffee, try black chocolate--powered unsweetened in hot water. Mrs "T" O+
I love hot black chocolate, Mrs T, just a few times a week. I've found that if I drink it daily, it becomes a habit and there's no pleasure in it anymore. But it's amazingly satisfying for that chocolate need without the sugar and fat. |
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Quoted from Lola I believe beets are ok for your type, right? always check typebase to be on the safe side!
That's so funny, I never liked beets so they were in my emotional avoid category - but they are neutral. Does this mean that when I eat this dark chocolate with water filtered beet sugar I am actually not eating any avoids? Is that possible?!
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Quoted from italybound ahhh, thanks for the memory. Love me some Michael Jackson music. Too bad he went to the 'other side', wherever that is!
Yeah, kinda puts a damper on his tunes! |
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| Tuesday, November 7, 2006, 11:41am |
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I believe that choc. in particular with no other avoids, as you just mentioned, is a good option for you.
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I think plain chocolate is neutral. Michael Jackson moved to the Middle East. He is still alive & just wants to get away from all the publicity & stress. Mrs "T" O+ |
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Michael Jackson moved to the Middle East. He is still alive & just wants to get away from all the publicity & stress.Mrs "T" O+
I was talking about all the surgery, all the stuff w/ child molestation (whether it be true or not) and him just plain getting weider all the time. Still do love his music tho.  |
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