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hkbecky
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Before starting BTD my nutritionist looked at my typical menu and said to me, "I wouldn't eat that stuff if you paid me!"

My menu looks like this now VS what it looked like before BTD

breakfast - fruit salad + green tea  VS    turkey/fried egg english muffin + instant coffee
snack - cucumber w/slice of roasted turkey breast VS  cheese doodles (cheetos)
lunch - spinach salad + club soda   VS won ton noodles + milk tea
snack - apple VS strawberries
dinner - Beef w/rice + steamed veggies + broth soup VS Sushi + Udon Noodles + green tea
late snack - plum VS cookie

Yes, I always look at the ingredients now and you're right, a lot of avoids have slid in there.  Now I'm being extra careful.  

Funny how I thought I was actually being quite healthy with my old menu.  I look forward to reaping all the benefits now!  
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Hi hkbecky,

Great work, congratulations. But...

Cucumber is an avoid for O's, you may want to switch to green pepper instead

cheers,
Yaman


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Hi Yaman,

Thanks!  Are you sure about the cucumber?  In Cook Right 4 Your Type, cucumber is in my neutral column along with courgettes.
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Quoted from hkbecky
Hi Yaman,

Thanks!  Are you sure about the cucumber?  In Cook Right 4 Your Type, cucumber is in my neutral column along with courgettes.


Yup, it's an avoid  

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Quoted from hkbecky
Before starting BTD my nutritionist looked at my typical menu and said to me, "I wouldn't eat that stuff if you paid me!"

My menu looks like this now VS what it looked like before BTD

breakfast - fruit salad + green tea  VS    turkey/fried egg english muffin + instant coffee
snack - cucumber w/slice of roasted turkey breast VS  cheese doodles (cheetos)
lunch - spinach salad + club soda   VS won ton noodles + milk tea
snack - apple VS strawberries
dinner - Beef w/rice + steamed veggies + broth soup VS Sushi + Udon Noodles + green tea
late snack - plum VS cookie

Yes, I always look at the ingredients now and you're right, a lot of avoids have slid in there.  Now I'm being extra careful.  

Funny how I thought I was actually being quite healthy with my old menu.  I look forward to reaping all the benefits now!  

Becky, congrats, it looks pretty good!  The one thing I notice, though, is that you don't have any protein at breakfast.  Many of us O's find that if we start the day out with protein, our blood sugar and thus our focus and everything is far more steady and clear throughout the day, and we don't crave the bad stuff.  In fact, I try to get some quality protein at each meal if I can, unless I'm having something like a fruit smoothie or fruit salad and I really just want a "fruit only" meal, which is nice sometimes.  But for breakfast, I would advise you to eat some protein, and definitely eat protein anytime you have rice or any other grain or refined carbohydrate, as the protein "counters" the glycemic load of the carbs and reduces the overall glycemic load.  Translation:  your blood sugar will remain steadier throughout the day if you get protein throughout the day, especially with grains and refined carbs (not as important with O-friendly carbs such as fruits and vegetables, but at breakfast, you might want to try going for protein no matter what else you have with it).

Another note, re your tummy probs when starting the BTD:  I see in your menu that you are eating a LOT of unrefined roughage (fiber) now whereas before you ate almost none.  While this is good, you may want to tone it back just a little if your tummy continues to rebel, as going from cheese doodles to spinach salad is a shock to your system *lol*!  Don't get me wrong:  dark, leafy greens like spinach are GREAT for you, but you may want to steam them at first versus the raw salad, as your body is getting used to a whole foods diet versus a refined foods diet.  Also, again, if you will eat a little protein with the fiber, I think you will be a happy camper.

Hope we aren't throwing too much at you at once!  You are doing GREAT!  There is a lot to take in and then you have to fine tune it all for you as an individual, as even within this individualized, customized BTD, we are all different!  Hang in there, you are really making a lot of positive changes and your body will begin to respond in a GOOD way, soon!  You may just need a little tweaking, and that's what us obnoxious lot is here for, to fire off a bunch of ideas for tweaking!  Yay!  ENJOY!



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Hi becky, for the latest food values as well as links to recipes check type base(third button from the left at the top of the page). Doc.D'Adamo continues to do research on different foods and occasionally finds refinements for the lists. Unlike some diet and nutrition Docs his plan is evolutionary rather than cast in stone. The new Live Right For Your Type book has most of the corrections in it as well as some fascinating recommendations for exercise and lifestyle profiles, the susceptability of the different blood types to various diseases, and the differences in secretors and nonsecretors.
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Hi becky, for the latest food values as well as links to recipes check type base(third button from the left at the top of the page). Doc.D'Adamo continues to do research on different foods and occasionally finds refinements for the lists. Unlike some diet and nutrition Docs his plan is evolutionary rather than cast in stone. The new Live Right For Your Type book has most of the corrections in it as well as some fascinating recommendations for exercise and lifestyle profiles, the susceptability of the different blood types to various diseases, and the differences in secretors and nonsecretors.


Hi, thanks for the tip.  This shift in food categories concerns me a little bit.  Will any highly beneficials ever end up on the avoid list in a few years time or vice versa?
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Another note, re your tummy probs when starting the BTD:  I see in your menu that you are eating a LOT of unrefined roughage (fiber) now whereas before you ate almost none.  While this is good, you may want to tone it back just a little if your tummy continues to rebel, as going from cheese doodles to spinach salad is a shock to your system *lol*!  Don't get me wrong:  dark, leafy greens like spinach are GREAT for you, but you may want to steam them at first versus the raw salad, as your body is getting used to a whole foods diet versus a refined foods diet.  Also, again, if you will eat a little protein with the fiber, I think you will be a happy camper.



Thanks for the protein tip.  That's going to be a tough one since eggs aren't my source of protein anymore.  Beef or lamb in the morning is a bit much while buffalo and venison are not widely available here.  I've never eaten a heart before, as appetizing as it sounds....  

Seafood breakfast?  

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Sure, a nice canned salmon salad is GREAT, as canned salmon is usually wild salmon, and that will give you high-quality protein as well as omega 3's, which are fabulous fats for rain and nervous system health, skin health, eyes, etc.   Also, canned sardines (beneficial) make a lovely spread with compliant homemade mayo or olive oil, and lemon juice.  You can spread them into celery stalks, onto fresh tomato slices, or onto rye crisps or rice crackers, etc.  Canned salmon and canned sardines are cheap, high-quality sources of protein here in the USA.  As for Hong Kong, I'm not sure, but don't they have all manner of wonderful fish there?  Or is that all in my idealized dream of it *lol*?  Also, I know beef or lamb in the morning may seem like "a bit much" when you aren't used to it, but many of us find that if we think outside the box for breakfast and just eat anything at breakfast that one could normally eat at lunch or dinner, it works really well in terms of satisfying us and starting us off right for the day.  If only I would take my own advice lately, maybe I wouldn't be struggling as I am right now, but I digress!!!  Let's put it this way:  when I myself do the things I've stressed to you in this post, I feel centered, focused, healthy and in the groove of the diet.  And I know a lot of other O's really need that protein in the morning, too.  However, I will say that your morning snack of a turkey breast gets the job done, but ideally you might want to switch the turkey breast to be the first thing and the fruit salad to be the later morning snack.


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Hi Peppermint Twist,

I think I can accept canned salmon and sardines.  I used to eat Tuna with scrambled eggs on toast.  Now that I'm cutting out all the wheat & flour, celery stalks, tomato slices and rice cakes sound good too.  thanks!  
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De nada!  Just wish I'd take my own advice lately, but if SOMEONE can benefit from it, then yay!!!  And it really does sound like you've made a lot of really good changes.  I think your bod is just getting used to the new fiber sitch.  If I ate a raw spinach salad and drank bubbly club soda,* I think I might have an issue in that regard, too.  Raw spinach has a LOT of fiber.  You might want to steam or blanche it or something.  ANYWAY:  hang in there, it will all come together with a slight bit of tweaking and/or time for your bod to adjust!


* edited to add:  clarification, I DO drink bubbly mineral water all the live-long day, but I mean, if I drank it at the same time as I ate a spinach salad, I might have a problema!


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It's OK to have eggs in the morning.  I do almost every day.  Scramble them in ghee (clarified butter) which Dr. D. recommends for Os.  Make an omelet with beneficial veggies if you want.  I have scrambled eggs with a very small piece of manna bread and a little bit of almond butter for breakfast along with grapefruit juice (earlier) and green tea when I get to the office.
Sounds to me like you are doing fine.  Don't forget to drink a lot of water, preferably sparkling mineral water.  That helps with the acidity that Os normally have.

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Quoted from hkbecky
Funny thing, I felt better right away.  Tonight, I made my own chicken broth at home. I know it's not a highly beneficial food, but I thought I'd try to ease my way into BTD.  It seems to be working because the pain has subsided and my system seems to be clearing up.!


Praise the Lord! Am relieved myself... This is not funny at all, you know, this is just wonderful, wonderful.    Was pretty sick myself yesterday, it took me 12 hours to get to these good news.

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you may want to switch to green pepper instead


Thanks Yaman! and I thought green pepper was an avoid. Should browse the typebase more often, like I used to do half a year ago, incessantly... Red pepper is beneficial all of a sudden (?) Once I heard that red foods make you slim... vs green, which makes you expand... never mind now.

Becky, congratulations and {{{hugs}}} and lots of success further on!


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all forms of peppers are avoids (infrequent neutrals) in certain health series books.......depending on your health issues,
unfortunately.)


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All right, this is a opening, this way I can explore better my health condition, cause I don't care at all for green pepper, which must indicate something, perhaps something I already know, about my health. Thank you Lola, I am grateful.  


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Yael,
peppers are an avoid in the menopause book......

in others they re either a frequent neutral or an infrequent neutral......


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This shift in food categories concerns me a little bit.  Will any highly beneficials ever end up on the avoid list in a few years time or vice versa?

If you are using the food lists in the original Eat Right 4 Your Type book then yes at least one type O food did switch from beneficial to avoid. The one I am thinking of is pinto beans.

Most of the revised information came out in the Live Right 4 Your Type book in 2001. There are also a few changes for that book in the BTD FAQ on the main site.

A few changes have been made in TYPEbase since then.

Then finally the recent Health Library books have stricker versions (more changes) of the BTD for those with health problems.


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Yael,
peppers are an avoid in the menopause book......


It figures...  

Thanks Lola!



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Becky,
this quote might help you understand the shifts you mention:

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Dr D:
the cancer book (or any of the health series books) just does a more up-to-date
take on things,  with the disease focus.
Earlier books did it as best as could be done
at the time.


ERFYT was the first book written with this revolutionary concept, but it was until LRFYT that the non- secretor issue was first published, therefore certain changes in the food lists.
the new book, Genotype Diet will bring more goodies for all to enjoy! can t wait! )


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...the new book, Genotype Diet will bring more goodies for all to enjoy! can t wait! )

Ditto!  Dittisimo!  I think the Genotype Diet is going to be Dr. D.'s magnum opus...but no pressure, Dr. D.!



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