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eehaslam
Tuesday, October 10, 2006, 5:49pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Is "Dr. D" in the above post who I think it is, Dr. D'Adamo??

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Is "Dr. D" in the above post who I think it is, Dr. D'Adamo??

Yes



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Eve,
and reply num. 14 higher up is also Dr D!!!


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Ya know who's getting rich off me via the BTD?- the butcher!!! That's okay, I feel so much better that the $ is going to food instead of medicine for me now!
a government conspiracy to keep people sick?!  thanks for the guffaw!!!


yeah, my butcher is gettin' rich too, but like you, I feel my money is better spent on good quality food than med.   and glad I could give you a belly laugh w/ the gov consp thing. I just talked to this guy yest and he said the gov hypnotized the guy that shot those Amish kids, and did it as a way to scare us and that we'll all be under Marshall law before long.       I think I need to stay off certain topics w/ him!!!!!!!!!!!

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I look forward to the time Dr. D. makes more money than the wheat and dairy guys (from government, health institutions, and customers) so we can have different research and I, hopefully, am proven right.


me too and great post!

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I'm sure the BTD has been good to him with book sales/royalties and supplement sales through NAP, but don't we all make a living and isn't it admirable to make a living from giving something original, ground-breaking, healing, and much-needed to the world?  Isn't it the ideal to be making a living from following your bliss and your passion, especially when that bliss and passion is one that helps people?


good point and wouldn't it be great if WE ALL worked at our life's passion?




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In my work, I often collaborate with nutritionists, whom I usually respect tremendously.  Some of them, however, have gone out of their way to criticize the BTD, stating that it is absurd to assume that blood type could affect nutritional needs.  

Most of these folks, however have not read the book...
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Most of these folks, however have not read the book...


as is true w/ most of the people who bad mouth BTD.  




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it is such a scientifically solid , not to say brilliant thesis, transmitted in layman's terms, that 'the medical pseudo scientists' simply can t stomach it!!
it is simply too much for them to take!
talk about jealous!!! lol


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In my work, I often collaborate with nutritionists, whom I usually respect tremendously.  Some of them, however, have gone out of their way to criticize the BTD, stating that it is absurd to assume that blood type could affect nutritional needs.  

Most of these folks, however have not read the book...


Here's an argument for you, for them.

I would then ask them if they are aware of the fact that scientists have known for over 40 years that Type A's and AB's don't produce as much IAP (intestinal alkaline phosphatase) as the other blood types.  And nonnie's produce even less.  But Type O's and Type B's to a lesser extent, produce a fair amount of this enzyme.   This is an enzyme that is critical in the digestion of fats. (And, the trigger that turns on this enzyme, (makes it work) is the presence of protein.  This has been proven in study after study.   What type of diet would they then recommend for someone who doesn't produce much of this enzyme?  It's a natural variant in the human body. Would a low fat, vegetarian diet be a better choice for this genetic difference?  Or would they want to sell digestive enzymes products to their Type A & AB patients?

There are lots of other genetic differences between the blood types.  This is just one of them.


Knowledge is power.  SWAMI gives you the diet that will unlock the key to better health, and it's all based on your unique individuality.
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KK thanx soo much and ya great just sended this text to Zürich prof. from ETH...just fitted in yapperdapperdu thanks...again
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Hey KimonoKat,

That's a great comeback. Hope I can remember it.

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Eve, I am sorry that you had such a bad experience on a board that you had long been a part of, but I am glad everyone here cheered you up!  Your experience reminded me of something that happened to me on a message board about yoga, where eventually everyone started disagreeing on what style of yoga was superior and the diets that went along with them.  I always thought that there were so many yoga styles and ways to eat that there was something out there perfect for each person and no one thing that could be right for everyone.  Finding BTD made so much sense -- we are all individuals here!

Recently a friend of mine (who has a habit of always wanting to be the authority on what ever people are talking about) interrupted a conversation I was having with another friend about BTD and said that she had read part of the book and found no scientific evidence that it was correct... that "you might as well eat right for your Zodiac sign."  Later she tried to apologize to me by saying that she still thought there was no scientific claim but she repsected that people had seen improvements in their health because any of the diets he suggested would be good to follow.  (Then how come I was following Type A diet to a tee as a vegetarian & felt crappy and fat all the time!?)  I felt there was no point arguing because she is in a friend group of a lot of people I really like... so I just smiled and nodded and thought to myself... we'll see who's healthier 5, 10 or 20 years down the road... me following BTD & lots of exercise right for my type or her eating fastfood, getting drunk, and smoking cigarettes!  Whenever someone criticizes BTD, I just try to be polite and think that the evidence is in all the healthy, vibrant people who follow BTD... time will tell all when we are all healthy and going strong long after this is considered a "fad" diet.  
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Whenever someone criticizes BTD, I just try to be polite and think that the evidence is in all the healthy, vibrant people who follow BTD... time will tell all when we are all healthy and going strong long after this is considered a "fad" diet.  


that's a wonderful attitude and spirit. and you are correct, time will tell. we'll see who gets the last laugh, so to speak, eh?  



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I agree with all the feedback about agreeing and politely nodding, etc.. It's the 'bigger' thing to do.

However, my reaction was so extreme that I could not believe this person just would not stop coming at me, and at me, and at me and so grandiosely....and all the while the moderator did nothing. Maybe it was just simply time for me to move on.

One thing for sure, I am so releived that I did only to come to this wonderful site.

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One of my favorite Lazarus Long quotes is below.  For those of you who don't know about him, he's a science fiction character created by Robert H. Heinlein.  Lazarus Long has lived a thousand lifetimes.  He's immortal.

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And another--in a family argument, if it turns out you are right--apologize at once!


We know we are eating right for our type; that doesn't mean we have to prove to, or convince someone else that we are right.  So, apologize, smile and eat healthy!


Knowledge is power.  SWAMI gives you the diet that will unlock the key to better health, and it's all based on your unique individuality.
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THE MOST UNKINDEST CUT OF ALL. If none of the foregoing charges can bear scrutiny, strategists of personal denigration still hold an old and conventional tactic in reserve: they can proclaim a despised theory both trivial and devoid of content.

http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/p/archives/00000115.htm



The above method is used by a Dr Herbert Nehrlich, posting as Dr Wombat, to discredit Dr D and BTD on the forum of hsibaltimore.com

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thanks for the heads up Joyce! )

I ll put that guy in my 'avoid' list!!


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With the minority who thrive on Atikins, and a different minority who thrive on vegetarianism, whose solution explains this? The best proof of the BTD corpus is from competing (sometimes hostile) approaches.

This reminds me of an understanding of psychological approaches:  Adler interprets everything through the concept of power, and Freud through the lens of sex. Jung says you can use either of these (and there are other lenses), but the best lens is that of a spiritual journey.

I have come to both of these understandings through a parallel in mathematics.  You can find specific solutions for a range of cases (Atikins, Adler, vegetarianism, and Freud), but the complete picture is found in the general solution.  The general solution incorporates the specific solutions, each in its own specific competency, to give the correct answer to all possibilities.

This is how I see Dr. D'adamo’s work.  

Some critics latch on to changes as proof of incompetency. However, I see the changes as proof of a capacity to learn and fidelity to truth.  These are to be required of any teacher.


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The general solution incorporates the specific solutions, each in its own specific competency, to give the correct answer to all possibilities.


individuality all the way!!!! )


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Some critics latch on to changes as proof of incompetency. However, I see the changes as proof of a capacity to learn and fidelity to truth.  These are to be required of any teacher.


Once upon a time I thought this also applied to scientific knowledge, but these days some 'scientists' seem to know better.

Joyce [showing her age!!!!]

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I agree with all the feedback about agreeing and politely nodding, etc.. It's the 'bigger' thing to do.However, my reaction was so extreme that I could not believe this person just would not stop coming at me, and at me, and at me and so grandiosely....and all the while the moderator did nothing. Maybe it was just simply time for me to move on. One thing for sure, I am so releived that I did only to come to this wonderful site.eve  


eve, i'm glad you got away from all that havoc and 'switched over' to a more calming forum. there's enough stress in life w/o 'willingly' adding to it, even if we do think it's for our good, huh? there is just really no need for being rude and belittling to another forum member, on any forum. we all have dif views on things, are entitled TO them, but no need to be mean to anyone else BECAUSE OF them.   maybe it WAS just simply time for you to move on and glad to have you HERE!  Maybe it was time for you to focus more on your health through proven means than thru whatever that forum was about.



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We all interpret things through the lens of our our experience.  What counts is what works and for me, this just works.  It's as simple as that.  Lots of people around me think I've gone off the deep end and that I'm just weird but they also remember when I was first diagnosed with colitis.  That happened one summer right after I got divorced and my kids spent the summer with their dad down in NC.  I decided I would try to eat more like a vegetarian.... I was big into brown rice and lots of lentils.  I started bleeding and getting sicker and sicker.  It wasn't until I found the BTD that things turned around.
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Jane, a hearty "GOOD FOR YOU" for sticking to your guns and not caring so much what others think.  I went thru almost 2 years of the DH rolling his eyes at me and he and my daughter 'ganging up' on me. Now he is BTD'ing. Enough said, eh?  Now, (rubbing my hands together, brows furled and an evil far away look in my eye) on to the daughter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  (cackle w/ witches laughter   )   BTW, glad you are feeling so much better!



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My oldest son (he's 31 now but this was a few years ago) went with me to WFs one day and his comment was "where's the real food!"  No Pepsi, no real junk food.  They still tease me about it.  I've been doing this for many years now (don't remember exactly what year it was....97 or 98 I think) and it's just a way of life.  I don't think I'd started yet when I had my thyroid surgery in 96.  My brother gave me a lot of grief about all the meat and all the whole eggs I eat.  I had a physical recently and he couldn't wait to hear about my bloodwork.  I called him last night to tell him that my good cholesterol was 75, total was 212.  My doctor had no problem with that at all.  The only number that's always off is that I always seem to have a high white blood count but a hemotologist told me that's no too much of a concern with the colitis.  We'll see how that is next month.  I have another colonoscopy scheduled.  
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great numbers!!! )
your bro must have been speechless!


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