A while back I posted that I had seen my GP and she suggested I buy mannitech.  I e-mailed her when I got home about 'our' ARA Plus, and sent the links showing her how much cheaper it was, and that I could not have (that plant) can't think of the name.....anyway, I had to go back to have her recheck a lymph node the other day, and she spend almost 30 minutes telling me to check with the 'quackmd' website, and that she did not agree with following the diet since she did not believe in evolution.  Also, that the reason all Jewish people were B's is that they killed everyone else off, and would not mix with other types.  She then felt the lymph node, and I left with an $84 bill.  Can you believe that?  I am really ticked!!!!

Oh wow.

Just goes to show; you might have the brain to get through med school, but that doesn't necessarily mean you'll be a good competent doctor.

That GP is unbelievable!!!!!!    What are you going to do now?  

If they killed off everybody else isn't that the Darwinism definition of evolution? Circular logic, I don't believe in it therfore it doesn't exist. You have to take responsibility for your own health. I have a tendency to high triglycerides and ultralow LDL levels. My doctor wanted to put me on a statin that lowered LDL and prescribe a low fat diet with plenty of wholewheat and chicken. Fortunately he sent me on to a specialist after 5 years. She promptly told me to cut out simple carbs, corn, sweets, alcohol, exercise and drop weight and take fish oil. Not quite BTD but a lot closer.

Spooky!

May I ask a stupid question?  For people who don't believe in evolution, how far back in time do they say the human race goes?    

Really!  I don't know what I am going to do.  I wanted to argue with her, but I could see it was not going to go anywhere.  She has always sort of pushed a religious theme when I have seen her, which I disliked, but then pushing the MLM, I was surprised at that.  I thought just showing her that a similar product that was less expensive would be of interest to her.  She is the one who asked about the foods that were recommended for her AB blood type.  I said I could only remember that chicken was an avoid, but would send her the link.  She eagerly gave me her address, SHE wanted to know.  I guess only to try to negate my thinking and sell the mannitech.  Go figure.  Think I will find a new DR.

That would be a good question, Ohmiss, but I don't think I will be seeing her again.  GRRR...

Outrageous!!! First of all Jews tend to show a lot of blood type mixing depending on their geographics! Second, not believing in evolution, while it';s only a theory, to me does not indicate a strong research orientation.... help!

trish,

My two cents - find a homeopath or ND and forget about the MDs...

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Dr D:
Along with Bernie Siegal, Jeff Bland, Deepak
Chopra, Andrew Weil, Herbert Benson...

You name them, they're on the quackwatch list.


All and all, a position of honor!

Many of us don't believe in all of evolution, but we sure believe the BTD!
Whether you believe God created the types or that they evolved, the fact of them still exists!
The drs. I go to have a lot of Christians & a Jew or 2 on staff, but are very open to learning from their patients. One of them tried to be a vegetarian years ago & found out he was an O (that's why it didn't work). [These drs. are 'complimentary' drs., MDs who really are alternativists at heart!]
Religion shouldn't really enter the argument.  Does the BTD have scientific basis?
Does it work? Are we healthier? Yes, Yes, Yes!!!

My older son is working on a PhD in Science & Religion.  He's doing a presentation on Evangelicals & Evolution at some conference this fall.  I hope I can read that paper.  It sounds very interesting!
Sea Salt & Light,
Mrs "T"    O+

Mannatech is certainly on the Quackwatch site as well.

A lot of Jewish people are type B because a lot of Jewish people come from eastern Europe, which has a lot of type B genes. If you look at other communities, the Jewish inhabitants tend to be closer to each other genetically but not all that different from the other groups you examine.

Well said, Mrs. T.  It seems to me that BTD should fit well whether you're an Evolutionist, a Creationist, or a hybridist.   After all, Adam and Eve must have been Os, no?  

I just wonder if the Creationists give modern humans the 40,000 or so years that the Evolutionsists do?

Who/what is Mannatech?

Mrs T O+, When I said exactly that to her, 'well, you really cannot argue with the success of it, so many people regained their health with it'.. she had an answer to that, too.  It is most likely a very small piece of the puzzle, and their faith worked the majority of the healing.  I knew when to quit. I did tell her that it was not my imagination that I could not eat wheat, and that just a few months ago, I could barely get out of the car.  I could see the wheels turning, and she really wanted to see that there was a more serious problem, but about that time, she found the lump to be unchanged, and I was out of there.  Dr. D, I think she was trying to maintain that it was far more complicated and there were more pieces to the puzzle.  Maybe she didn't want me to become too obcessed  with it all.  (now I am being too easy on her)  Take care.

here ohmiss:
http://www.dadamo.com/forum/archive5/config.pl?read=8939


it s a company:
http://www.mannatech.com/default.asp

I am and come from a whole group of Type A Jews. We all have intestinal and heart issues. Irritable bowel or colitis, mitral valve prolapse, and some diabetes. Both of my parents:Type 2 diabetes. My dad died of a massive MI. Textbook Type A problems. My mother's family came from Latvia, my father's from Hungary, Germany and Romania.

My husband is Italian from Calabria region of Italy, also Type A. His father died of a heart attack. That MD is ignorant and sounds like a bigot as well. I would go to another doctor.

Take care,
June

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Well said, Mrs. T.  It seems to me that BTD should fit well whether you're an Evolutionist, a Creationist, or a hybridist.   After all, Adam and Eve must have been Os, no?  

I just wonder if the Creationists give modern humans the 40,000 or so years that the Evolutionsists do?

Who/what is Mannatech?

surely Adam what means man or male was an O  or perhaps a B
Eve means woman or female was certainly an A or AB or B...she gave the fruit

and Lucie...hey whats about our ancestor Lucie...................

Lucie, Isa?

Oh do you mean Lucifer???

no Madgilein I mean L u c i e...the mum of all HUMAN'S ....mentioned in all kind of préhistorical films about our outcome of becoming humanoides

Lucifer= means lightbearer   and indeed he has a torch

Yes, Isa means the early hominid skeletal remains found in Africa, 3 million years old, if I recall correctly.

Remember, my friends, that we care for each other's health, happiness, and fullfilment(sp?) in spite of our many deeply held differing beliefs about how we got here. I'm happy with my understanding of this life and my place in it, but I do not insist others agree with me, nor do I share my beliefs lightly for the simple reason of avoiding unneeded social stresses. There's a good reason that (debating) sex, politics and religion are traditionally taboo in mixed company.
Play nice, kids!

P.S. You definitely need to find another doctor!
P.P.S. Trish, this doctor sounds like she wants to learn and has natural curiosity, but holds herself back due to loyalty to some beliefs she holds dear. I believe things, too, but I always try to keep an open mind on subjects I'm not familiar with!

SuzelAnnchen ya right

In my Jewish family we have Os (my father, brother  and me), As, my mother, Bs, my sister in law
and my niece and nephew.  Your "doctor" sounds pretty closeminded (I'm being kind here) and if I were you I think I'd look for someone that isn't so narrow.  
Jane

You are all right, and I will look for another Dr.  It seems to me to be a distinct deficit for one in that profession to be that closed minded.  I was indeed surprised, maybe that shows my somewhat gullible nature.  Thank you all, and the best of health to you.

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I just wonder if the Creationists give modern humans the 40,000 or so years that the Evolutionsists do?

Most creationists believe the the earth was created in an aged condition (much like a artist would create a sculpture of an elderly person - having aged features, but itself a new creation).  I believe they use the time span of the Bible to present day to arrive at an approximately 6,000 year old earth.  I think that's right.  
Anyone else care to venture a answer on this?