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Some comments in other threads made me think about this question. What beneficial foods for your type do you not like the taste of?


Turnips: I don't care for the taste of cooked turnips by themselves. If they are cooked with other things they sometimes are OK because for some reason the taste gets much milder.

Black Walnuts: Once again I don't enjoy them by themselves, but sometimes they are OK, or even good, when cooked/baked in something.

Carob: I really haven't found a great way to enjoy carob, but I haven't really experimented with it very much.

Turmeric/Curry: They are one of the few things I haven't really tried cooking with. I occasionally take turmeric as a supplement.


I find that I really like most of the my type O secretor beneficial foods. I enjoy my BTD foods.


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Good question MoDon. Has a nonnie there isn't too much on my bene list. But the foods I can do without are Kohlrabi, Okra and Turnips all in the veggie category. Although Kefir is not on my bene but neutral, I did try it before I found out I was a nonnie and I couldn't drink it. To me it tasted like sour milk and as I had never had it before I wasn't sure if that is what it was suppose to be like. So in the trash it went and I have never touched the stuff again.  

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About the only thing I don't care for in the beneficials is Turmeric. †Not on its own anyhow (on foods, of course). † I do love curry though.

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Several things- but mainly fish things:
croaker, pickerel, sardine, mackerel,  sturgeon  
In the meatdepartment I wont say that I dislike, mutton, goat, lamb, rabbit or venison - but they are no my favorites !
Weird as I am I kind of like all veggies- but papaya is just too weird- smells like vomit.


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I've noticed that I've developed a taste for a lot of the beneficials (like walnuts, pumpkin seeds, beneficial oils, and turnips) after eliminating a lot of the avoids. It's like I'm re-educating my taste buds!
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Although Kefir is not on my bene but neutral, I did try it before I found out I was a nonnie and I couldn't drink it. To me it tasted like sour milk


Off the top of my head I cannot think of A nonnie beneficial foods that I dislike. I am more enthusiatic about some than others. Some I do not eat because I find that they create problems fo me.

On the subject of Kefir. Even eating a tablespoon or so of it mixed in other products gives me a headache. I can get away with eating yogurt.


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I don't care for Soy products (tofu or roasted soybeans) and can't stand the taste of coffee...  I tried to drink some when I worked in restaurants during college, but couldn't get it down.


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ABJoe good thing you don't like coffee...IT'S A BIG AVOID for us AB's!!!! ( changed in LRFYT) Trust me I'm trying to get off of it.

Personally I cannot stand the smell or taste of Lamb...smells mediciney to me, just gross. The thought of eating rabbit or goat revolts me but I think it's culture too. My Mom ate a lot of rabbit in Germany and my husband grew up on mutton. I'll stick to my Turkey thanks !





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Liver...that's about it.  Though every now and then I like it, I just wish somebody else would cook it for me, handling it raw really turns me off from eating it.  Is elk beneficial?  That would be another one I can't stand.

I think I like all other beneficials, especially the convenient ones.


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ABJoe good thing you don't like coffee...IT'S A BIG AVOID for us AB's!!!! ( changed in LRFYT) Trust me I'm trying to get off of it.

Personally I cannot stand the smell or taste of Lamb...smells mediciney to me, just gross. The thought of eating rabbit or goat revolts me but I think it's culture too. My Mom ate a lot of rabbit in Germany and my husband grew up on mutton. I'll stick to my Turkey thanks !


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Yes Isa....lets have a challange. I bought instant coffee today to try to start to wean myself off. I can already feel the nausiating headache coming on but I'm determined.





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There are a few things I have not tried and one or two I'm not wild about (aduki beans would be one). Everything else is 'good to go'. On the other hand, there are several avoids that I have no problem avoiding!
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I really love the B beneficials, and enjoy eating them.

However....if there is any beneficial I don't like, it would have to be in the fish family.  I haven't even tried most of the beneficial fish on my list because it has taken me a long time just to come to enjoy the fish I do eat.  Now I adore wild salmon, and it's only a neutral!  I like canned sardines and I am leaning to cook cod in a way that I really like it.  



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I'm with Victoria and Henriette, I can't even try many of the beneficial fishes. The thought makes me want to gag.  I love salmon, cod, and whitefish.

I know okra is a beneficial, and I even have some canned okra in the pantry, just haven't mustered up the nerve to try them yet. I ask about fresh okra when I am in the stores, but haven't found any (I'm sure fresh is way better than canned).


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I'm with Victoria and Henriette, I can't even try many of the beneficial fishes. The thought makes me want to gag.  I love salmon, cod, and whitefish.

I know okra is a beneficial, and I even have some canned okra in the pantry, just haven't mustered up the nerve to try them yet. I ask about fresh okra when I am in the stores, but haven't found any (I'm sure fresh is way better than canned).


When I was growing up in the South, we ate fresh okra dipped in egg, shaken in a bag with seasoned flour and fried in oil.  Maybe you could adapt that to compiant products and try okra like that.  Even for a person who didn't eat grains, they could roll them in almond meal.  It really helps with the texture and the crunchy crust balances the questionable interior.  



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ABJoe good thing you don't like coffee...IT'S A BIG AVOID for us AB's!!!! ( changed in LRFYT)


Thanks! †I guess I had never checked the Typebase for it since I can't stand it.

I haven't tried all of the compliant fish either, but every (beneficial) fish I've ever tried, I have liked.

Melissa's "handling liver" comment is justified. †I have learned that I need to "just do it" because I need a good liver & onions meal about every week or two and I need to cook it or find a restaurant that does, but I usually get into some avoids there. †Much better to do what I KNOW is good.



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FISH....FISH....FISH and all fish!!!! yuck!!


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okra .....the questionable interior. †


The question is, why would you not like the best part?  

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Modon;  in reference to tumeric.   I wanted to say I was making a salad dressing the other day with walnut oil, garlic, almonds and lemon juice and decided to add some tumeric to it.  I also added salt and hot pepper. I am not sure what it did to the taste of the dressing but it made it a pretty yellow color.  That would be one way to get some tumeric to your diet.  I have also added it to my beef and onions as I was cooking it.  That did taste good!  


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Ahh.... I see..... food is entirely texture dependant!

No wonder I don't eat yogurt. It's slimy! † Heaven forbid I eat something super-slimy like flax seed!

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There are some things that I really like that are slimy...and if that's they way that okra is, at least I'll know ahead of time. Chinese eggplant (although I don't eat it anymore ) is slimy and I used to love that...especially when made with lots of garlic.


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I pretty sure that I like the way just about everything tastes.  And yes, Henrietta, I used to hold my breath while I ate papaya, but to me it tastes delicious...and each one is amazingly different tasting.

Even though I have learned to say, "I don't like coconut." or "I don't eat anchovies"...  It is not because of the way they taste!  

I do believe that the right recipe or method of preparation has a lot to do with making most foods taste good.  When I discovered that liver was ever so much better when it was NOT cooked until it resembled a dried-up leather shoe it made all the difference in the world.

I must admit here are some absolute won't eats, too, like blood.

The only things I can think of regretting having bathed my taste buds in were aloe vera juice and some hard liquors...but I'd be willing to give them another try prepared differently! lol
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There are some things that I really like that are slimy...and if that's they way that okra is, at least I'll know ahead of time. Chinese eggplant (although I don't eat it anymore ) is slimy and I used to love that...especially when made with lots of garlic.



To think, I only really learned to like eggplant in the last few years. Chinese eggplant is   . Have not had any in about a year..... it's neutral for me. Gonna have to work it into the rotation!

Thanks for the reminder! Once a month or something would be good!  
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I believe we had a thread about okra once before. If you don't like it slimey the key is not to remove all of the stem, leave a little "cap" on the end. One recipe was to brush small, whole okra pods with olive oil and salt and pepper them. Then put them on skewers and over a barbeque grill for about 5 minutes a side. There was another thread on a gardening forum I am on. Give me a day or two and I'll dig it up.
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I select the smaller okra (finger-sized) and wash them.  Next I steam them whole for 5 minutes.  Finally I trim both ends off each okra.  I sprinkle with a little salt and enjoy!

Carob - melt some ghee, stir in almond butter, add in some honey or molasses or whatever,  stir in carob powder.  This is good spread in celery sticks as well as eaten alone or spread on plain rice snaps.
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Even though I have learned to say, "I don't like coconut." or "I don't eat anchovies"...  It is not because of the way they taste!

It's funny you should mention this because for YEARS I used to say "I don't like mayonnaise" when in fact I really love mayonnaise. It was mostly because of the fat content (back when I was eating low-fat). Unfortunately for me, lately I've rediscovered the deliciousness of mayonnaise sandwiches, only I am using non-compliant mayonnaise. I really gotta learn to make my own to taste like Best Foods.


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eggplant turns infrequent neutral or avoid in the healthseries books.........that made me sad.


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I love turmeric on chicken...

bennies I don't like? Where to begin? Fish- I don't eat any seafood yet. One day I'll really make an effort, now I only say I wish I could eat fish. HATE carob. Will NOT touch liver. Don't really care for turnip, dandelion, beet, or  mustard greens or chard. Only like Kale in little pieces in salad. I don't like any green vegetable cooked besides green peppers. Don't like lamb much, and I don't like raw onions... oh, and I don't eat any beans at all- bennie or otherwise...

I haven't tried okra or jerusalem artichokes- I think those are the only bennie veggies I haven't tried, but I still haven't tried many of the other neutral veggies...
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eggplant turns infrequent neutral or avoid in the healthseries books.........that made me sad.


For Cardio, it's a 'Frequent Neutral'.

My notes on Fatigue and Aging don't mention eggplant! Did not concern me at the time I took them.......

Since I have no nightshade issues, I will partake from time to time.

No need to get alarmed. Arthitis is another issue.....the avoid monster!

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bennies I don't like? Where to begin? Fish- I don't eat any seafood yet. One day I'll really make an effort, now I only say I wish I could eat fish. HATE carob. Will NOT touch liver. Don't really care for turnip, dandelion, beet, or †mustard greens or chard. Only like Kale in little pieces in salad. I don't like any green vegetable cooked besides green peppers. Don't like lamb much, and I don't like raw onions... oh, and I don't eat any beans at all- bennie or otherwise...


PS - mustard greens are an 'O' avoid.........

At least you are easy to please. †(Insert freindly sarcasm smily here)

Tried a new 'mix' tonight. Dandelion greens with Julienned raw Turnip root, topped with a ginger/garlic dressing. †

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Lol!!
you re right!
it s the menopause book I m looking at.........guess you don t have that problem!
enjoy your eggplant, whenever. )


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Lol!!
you're right!
it's the menopause book I m looking at.........guess you don't have that problem!
enjoy your eggplant, whenever.




Sorry about the menopause thing, to whomever it affects.....

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Sorry about the menopause thing, to whomever it affects.....


It affects everyone who lives in the house!      



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It affects everyone who lives in the house! †


True. Just one of many things. Nice laugh though!

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I love food in general, and am pretty omnivorous, but there are a few bennies I don't like or at least am a little unfamiliar with: heart, walnuts, endive, bananas, mango, guava, all kinds of sea-weed, and carbonated water. I've never tasted okra or adzukibeans that I know of, but I dislike all kinds of beans except green beans, so I can't imagine I like adzuki beans...

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It's funny you should mention this because for YEARS I used to say "I don't like mayonnaise" when in fact I really love mayonnaise. It was mostly because of the fat content (back when I was eating low-fat)....


Heh, this is so funny! I have a very good friend from University, she's very slim and works hard to stay that way, BUT she LOVES mayonnaise. She use to say: "When women say they don't like mayonnaise, that's just a big fat lie! No one dislikes mayonnaise - they just say that to sound political correct...!!!"
HAH - I'll email her right away to let her know, she was right all along!!!


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May I step in for making a request?

I know all of you have good will and don't erally want to offend anyone. But could we please settle for "dislike" or "don't like" or even "hate"? Instead of describing scenes that may be disturbing those who actually love that particular food.

Thank you for your kind understanding.

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What beneficial foods for your type do you not like the taste of?

That'd be okra.
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I love okra! †Of course my introduction to it was fried, and I've worked up to stewed with tomatoes, which are both pretty tasty, I like it in stews as well, but I'm not brave enough to eat it plain steamed or boiled...I'm afraid I'd stop liking it if I tried that.

I can't say that there's a vegetable I really dislike, I have other excuses when I don't eat enough veggies...simply lacking the time to cook them, usually.  I try to cook broccoli in bulk once a week so I at least have something green to eat when life gets crazy.


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I really like okra sauteed in ghee with chopped onion. served with some sea salt. I sometimes fix and enjoy it as sort of a after dinner dessert like treat.


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Don- do you slice it first, or saute the whole pods?

If only I could ever consider a vegetable a "dessert"


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I cut the okra up in 1/4 to 1/2 inch pieces.

Don't you consider pumpkin pie as dessert?  


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So I have a can of okra. Presumably it's already cooked. What suggestions do you 'okra loving folks' have for me on how to prepare it for eating? Remember, it's my first time and I really want to like it .


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So I have a can of okra. Presumably it's already cooked.

I would think you could still saute it in ghee. You could I also add the canned okra to things like soup or stew.

I make a pot of beneficial bean soup about once a month and usually add okra to it.



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You're an inspiration as one of the few true vegetable lovers!

I think that onions are very sweet and when cooked and served with ghee and/or olive oil, both of with I really love, makes for a nice treat. The okra is just a beneficial bonus.



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Last night, I steamed parsnips, carrots and red onions in a little water, and then stirred them in the skillet with ground lamb, just before taking off the heat.  Later, I drank the water from the vegetables.  It was as sweet as a glass of fruit juice.  Amazing!



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Back to dislikes, I have had a real hard time liking greens . . collards, kale, etc.

I recently cooked a bunch of chopped collards a la Don, steaming them in a little water for about an hour and 15 minutes.  I drained them, mixed them with a little sea salt, olive oil and ghee, and OH!  I have to say, I really liked them!! Wonder of wonders.  It was that long cooking that made all the difference.



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Back to dislikes, I have had a real hard time liking greens . . collards, kale, etc.

I recently cooked a bunch of chopped collards a la Don, steaming them in a little water for about an hour and 15 minutes.  I drained them, mixed them with a little sea salt, olive oil and ghee, and OH!  I have to say, I really liked them!! Wonder of wonders.  It was that long cooking that made all the difference.


I did the same thing *lol*! I cooked the whole bunch and tried it two ways: the first with a drizzle of olive oil, some ghee, and salt; the second way with olive oil, lemon juice, and wf tamari. The first version won by a mile, and what I discovered (if I didn't already know it) was that almost everything tastes better with ghee!!!!


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I'm happy to say that while I don't think collards, plain, is going to work for me, mixed in with other foods, I'll take them. I made a batch last night and can't seem to eat the last of them, but will add them to some beans I'm planning on cooking tomorrow. And I may add the okra, too, for fun .

BTW, I really like my salmon, cod, tuna, and whitefish!


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The next time I make Collards, I'm going to chop them really fine, because the only thing I didn't like about this batch I made is that they ended up in big clumps.  I did some chopping with my fork.  I'm going to see how fine I can slice and chop them so that they're easier to eat.  Otherwise the experiment was a success:  good taste, good texture!



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The next time I make Collards, I'm going to chop them really fine, because the only thing I didn't like about this batch I made is that they ended up in big clumps. †I did some chopping with my fork. †I'm going to see how fine I can slice and chop them so that they're easier to eat. †Otherwise the experiment was a success: †good taste, good texture!


If you lay the leaves on top of each other, you can then roll them up tightly. Slice from one end about 1/4-3/8 inch, repeat till done. If you like, then slice once the other direction ((perpendicular)) (still rolled and 'together'). This will produce a fantastic start to a fried or boiled preperation. If you are willing to go to a finer cut (1/8 or smaller) it will reduce cooking time needed. In fact, I use 1/8 inch and stir fry with onion to good result. Once you get used to it, it is fairly quick and easy to do.

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I was just telling a friend I haven't much of a taste for SARDINES.  She's one of those people who LOVES 'em, as well as fish skin, as well as canned salmon with the bones, that sort of thing.

I've just bought skinless, boneless sardines in olive oil, at the market.  Any recommendations re: preparing them with minimum gag-reflex-stimulation?


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how about rolled in wilted collars and smothered with compliant cheese and cream in the oven.....
very B type!! I m sure you wouldn t be able to taste those poor sardines that way! )


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Exj, how about shredding them with a fork, add eggs, tarragon or basil, diced red peppers and onions, salt and pepper of your choice, a little millet or barley flour, then frying them up as fish cakes. It works for canned mackerel any way.

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PS - mustard greens are an 'O' avoid.........

At least you are easy to please. †(Insert freindly sarcasm smily here)

Tried a new 'mix' tonight. Dandelion greens with Julienned raw Turnip root, topped with a ginger/garlic dressing. †


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Thanks to gulfcoastguy: This has †been on my mind ever since a similar recipe was posted by the Samos group, remember? †I'll give it that sort of try... Thanks much. †Whatta group. †Good to be back. †


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For secretor only. †Neutral for the nonnies. †

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And still not a beneficial.... †  Talking about beneficial dislikes? †

Point taken though.


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Sorry Lloyd_O_secretor-guess I got side tracked.

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As long as I can remember I have hated spinach - the appearance of the stuff cooked - and we always had to eat it cooked when I was a child - was just revolting...

but on finding out that it is beneficial I have been forcing myself to eat it.  It looks okish folded into an omlett and it is really nice fresh actually...still prefer other greens if given a choice
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Another way to eat spinach is wilted.  I find it much nicer than well-cooked.  It is such a tender green, it doesn't really need cooking.  If you cook meat in a pan, after it is done, remove the meat, pour off excess fats, and put in the clean spinach while the pan is still hot.  Stir around in the hot drippings until the leaves are wilted, and well saturated in the drippings and seasonings that were left in the pan.



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OK. I just posted a blog about my experiment, this afternoon, with SARDINES! Thanks to this Thread.


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Another way to eat spinach is wilted. †I find it much nicer than well-cooked. †It is such a tender green, it doesn't really need cooking. †If you cook meat in a pan, after it is done, remove the meat, pour off excess fats, and put in the clean spinach while the pan is still hot. †Stir around in the hot drippings until the leaves are wilted, and well saturated in the drippings and seasonings that were left in the pan.



Victoria-great this way with eggs (either sunny side up or over easy) also. † And...you don't have to get rid of the fat because it is ghee.

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Debra,
Do you cook the eggs first, or wilt the spinach and then drop the eggs into the greens?



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I love Smothered Liver and onions with a nice fat sweet potatoe. I have since I was a kid along with all those 'nasty' greens everyone else disliked(teaching my husband about green that are not cooked southern style and bathed in fatback, over spiced etc.. I am in heaven.

The only thing I really have trouble with is fresh fish. I can stand tuna and once upon a time fishsticks. Tuns is not a frequent item unless I am traveling along with safe canned meats.


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When I was growing up in the South, we ate fresh okra dipped in egg, shaken in a bag with seasoned flour and fried in oil. †Maybe you could adapt that to compiant products and try okra like that. †Even for a person who didn't eat grains, they could roll them in almond meal. †It really helps with the texture and the crunchy crust balances the questionable interior. †



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I recently found that I like (and eat regularly now) three things that I never wanted to try, or tried and didn't like the first time: okra, collards, and swiss chard.

So now I'm eating more fish - which I don't really like except for fresh/frozen salmon and canned tuna. I bought some wild atlantic cod and cooked it up in the oven, but realize that I don't care for cod unless it's deep fried - as in fish and chips...

I cannot bring myself to even try sardines, even though they are a beneficial. Uck. I've read here that there are many folks who love sardines. I'm hoping to gear myself up to try them one day soon...just for some fish variation.


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The one beneficial I will probably never eat is onion. I mean, I can have a little bit of very well cooked finely chopped onions in stews or soups and such, but otherwise, I can't stand it. And if someone else is chopping onions, I'll get teary and puffy and red even if I'm in another room unless the doors are closed.

Everything else I am either learning to like, or realized I never hated them after all. These past two weeks I have eaten and enjoyed:
Fish (that was a tough one)
Spinach (both wilted and raw)
Lentils
Tofu
And I guess I'll add turnips, even though I never had them before. I loved them. Good potato replacement.
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!!!! too funny!

Can't stomach the taste of steamed/roasted/stir fried broccoli ..however, it's nice as a soup.


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And I guess I'll add turnips, even though I never had them before. I loved them. Good potato replacement.



Mashed parsnips, mashed cauliflower, cooked pumpkin or various squashes, and taro root all make suitable potato replacements, as well.

With this lifestyle, one has the opportunity to experiment and venture to try new food items.

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About the wilted spinach--I use kale or spinach and make it for breakfast. The recipe is really easy. Just heat up some ghee and olive oil (or just plain ghee if you like) in a heavy skillet. Add in the washed and dried kale or spinach. Because of the oxalic acid, I'll let the greens wilt and cook for a good 10-15 minutes. Adding in chopped onion and baby bella mushrooms is a nice touch here When the greens are thoroughly wilted and cooked, I add a little more ghee if necessary, then drop the eggs in and cover till soft set. I usually turn off the heat when the eggs are almost cooked. The residual heat will cook them through and also steam the contents so they come out of the skillet very easily.

As for beneficials I don't really like, right now it's turnips and parsnips. I'm slowly learning to eat them, but it's tough going. I've never been a fan of sweet root vegetables, but then I never liked greens or salad either, so there's hope


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fish....I guess I'm not alone. I love all vegetables, luckily. don't care for papaya, would eat it in a salad.
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Snails & coffee !!!!!  Yuck!  


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Snails & coffee !!!!!  Yuck!  


Together? Yeah, yuck for sure!  

The list of beneficial foods I DO like is much shorter than the list of ones I DON'T like! But the same could be said of neutrals and avoids...I just have an extremely limited array of foods that I like.  Unfortunately, most of the foods I like are BAAAAAD!

I guess the biggest problem for me right now is coming up with protein sources. I like chicken and turkey, but canned tuna is the only seafood I'll eat.  Good thing I like peanuts and walnuts!
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how about compliant legumes and grains?
here are some complete protein combos, right for your type
Legumes + seeds
Legumes + nuts
Legumes + dairy
Grains + legumes
Grains + dairy
the exception is soy protein which is a complete plant protein.


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I like coffee, but I don't think I'll ever get up the nerve to try snails. I'll probably try sardines before I try snails, although both sound yuckie.


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how about compliant legumes and grains?
here are some complete protein combos, right for your type
Legumes + seeds
Legumes + nuts
Legumes + dairy
Grains + legumes
Grains + dairy
the exception is soy protein which is a complete plant protein.


Lola, I've also heard that quinoa is a complete protein. Can you confirm this?


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I like coffee, but I don't think I'll ever get up the nerve to try snails. I'll probably try sardines before I try snails, although both sound yuckie.


IMO, snails are like eating an eraser - all rubbery and strange... No real taste, if it wasn't for the garlic and herbs they're smeared with. NOT my favourite food.
Tried it a few times in Paris and at a friend's home, where they LOVED snails.

Guess, it's an acquired taste just like oysters and sushi and blue cheese and olives AND coffee. You don't nessecarily like it the first time you try it, but learn to love it and sometimes even get addicted to it.
My SIL is addicted to sushi - I can't for the life of me find anything interesting in it. I find it blah at best...

Sardines... Eeeeeeee...!!! *runs off* Luckily it's only a neutral for me - whew!



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Sushi I agree is rather † I like the ones that are really not sushi with avocado and smokes salmon.
Iīm getting better at liking some of my beneficials.
I actually had some papaya last month that was ok
- It was marinated in limejuice- and DID not smell like vomit .

Untill now I have only been a smoked, gravad or marinated salmon person
- but 3 weeks ago I had cold fresh poached salmon- mixed with sour cream, chives and lemonpeel and it was very tasty. So maybe it is just hot salmon that I dislike.

I think it is crucial to test your tastebuds- like you do with kids
- it takes several test to learn to care for several foods for a baby
- problem is that we either stop testing it on the kid or forcefeed the poor child


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I think it is crucial to test your tastebuds- like you do with kids
- it takes several test to learn to care for several foods for a baby
- problem is that we eaither stop testing iton the kid or forcefeed the poor child


SO true!


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I don't like eating the bamboo slivers and the bits of broken glass.  Those are no fun.  

Also, the stepping on a garden rake five times a day is something I could do without.

Oh.  Wait.  Those aren't beneficials.  They're not even on the diet.  What's going on???
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Together? Yeah, yuck for sure! †

The list of beneficial foods I DO like is much shorter than the list of ones I DON'T like! But the same could be said of neutrals and avoids...I just have an extremely limited array of foods that I like. †Unfortunately, most of the foods I like are BAAAAAD!

I guess the biggest problem for me right now is coming up with protein sources. I like chicken and turkey, but canned tuna is the only seafood I'll eat. †Good thing I like peanuts and walnuts!


Doesn't matter - their "yucky" together or separately!!  

As far as protein sources, I eat some tuna, but mostly salmon or cod since they're bennies.  Also, have you tried tofu?  It's not bad depending on what you cook with it.  I recently tried tempeh and I must admit I didn't really care for it much.  It's a strong taste.  Perhaps another thing to add to my "yuck" list!  


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Also, have you tried tofu?  It's not bad depending on what you cook with it.  I recently tried tempeh and I must admit I didn't really care for it much.  It's a strong taste.  Perhaps another thing to add to my "yuck" list!  


No, I haven't tried it yet.  I'll have to check the recipes and see if I can find a way to cook it.  Got any suggestions?  I've got some rice pasta I haven't tried yet, not sure if I'm ready for soy yet
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Here's a great product if you can find it at your hfs: Nutrition Kitchen Soybean pasta. It cooks up and tastes just like regular spaghetti, and the only ingredients are soybeans. Very high in protein and grain free.  Yum. A great way to get your soy without eating tofu - although I am a great fan of tofu.


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Here's a great product if you can find it at your hfs: [url=http://www.nutrikitchen.com/]


Thanks, I need to find the health food store in Roanoke, I believe it's a co-op, I've never been there. I've checked out GNC and Nature's Outlet, which both have locations that aren't quite so close to downtown, and are more convenient to get to, but I wasn't impressed with either. Guess it's time to go to Mapquest and get directions!

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No, I haven't tried it yet. †I'll have to check the recipes and see if I can find a way to cook it. †Got any suggestions? †I've got some rice pasta I haven't tried yet, not sure if I'm ready for soy yet


I usually have it in stirfry two ways: †cut tofu into small chunks & saute in with veggies, onions, fresh garlic and some soy sauce or I sometimes coat it with egg & corn starch and saute in olive oil, then add the veggies & other ingredients.

Also, it's very good in rice, veggies & teryaki sauce.


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No, I haven't tried it yet. †I'll have to check the recipes and see if I can find a way to cook it. †Got any suggestions? †I've got some rice pasta I haven't tried yet, not sure if I'm ready for soy yet


A variety of tofu and soy-based recipes are available in CR4YT and in the Recipe Index:
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ED005
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/recipelister4.cgi?a


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Lola,

Yes, it's very painful.  

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A variety of tofu and soy-based recipes are available in CR4YT and in the Recipe Index:
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ED005
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/recipelister4.cgi?a


Alia


I just found one called Outrageous Sauteed Tofu, I think I'll try it next week

I keep reading how people's tastes have changed after they've been doing the BTD for awhile, learning to love things they never thought they'd eat. I sure hope it works that way for me!

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I bought a can of sardines in water at the store today. I don't know when I'll try them, but if I don't like them, perhaps the cats will. I figured I'd have a better chance of trying them if I actually bought them first!


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I should have added to my post that that's for the beneficials I like. Or recognize. I don't actually know what tempeh is, or whether it's even available here.
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vamainer, pre-BTD I used to always get bellyaches from onions. I began to nibble red onions when I went BTD, and began to eat them more & more, especially with beef and greens. Now I can revel in something I love, so hot & sweet at the same time, and not get a tummy-ache. And they're good for me   Avoids I used to like now give me pains. Oh, well, they are avoids, after all, as they remind me so efficiently!


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I don't actually know what tempeh is, or whether it's even available here.


Tempeh is a fermented soy product, usually found in the same section of the grocery store as tofu. It's very good for As.


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Last night, I steamed parsnips, carrots and red onions in a little water, and then stirred them in the skillet with ground lamb, just before taking off the heat.  Later, I drank the water from the vegetables.  It was as sweet as a glass of fruit juice.  Amazing!


I always do that; add a litle more water to my veggies and then drink the liquid just before they're through cooking, hence I get all the benefits of the vitamins ... etc ... actually, I usually add a little ev olive oil or butter and seasalt before drinking it up ... it's so good  and a little hot liquid helps digestion


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I've been lurking a while (actually several months) and finally decided to post! Y'all are some of the most helpful and informed people I have run across on the net. You are so kind to new folks and can always, always contribute something valuable to any query. I think you're grand.

As for the original post . . .

I'm not having a lot of luck cultivating a taste for soy cheese. I've tried several different brands in several different dishes and it still tastes like "green plastic." I'm not giving up though! If it's a beneficial, I'm all about learning to love it.

I'm southern so I was raised on okra, black-eyed peas, and all the greens--loved 'em them, love 'em now.
I'm not a big fan of pumpkin seeds (not sure why) but I do love peanuts! (Again, the southern thang!)

I'll eat rice cakes--even though there are strong similarities to munching on styrofoam. (Spread with a little peanut butter, it's flavored styrofoam but way better.)

Big coffee fan, glad it's a beneficial. Same thing with red wine. I do miss my sweet tea though. It's the hardest thing to order water with lemon in restaurants when everyone else is chugging the tea.
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Another way to eat spinach is wilted.  I find it much nicer than well-cooked.  It is such a tender green, it doesn't really need cooking.  If you cook meat in a pan, after it is done, remove the meat, pour off excess fats, and put in the clean spinach while the pan is still hot.  Stir around in the hot drippings until the leaves are wilted, and well saturated in the drippings and seasonings that were left in the pan.


I usually eat spinach with barley, butter and seasalt .. it's simply delicious !!!  


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I'm not having a lot of luck cultivating a taste for soy cheese. I've tried several different brands in several different dishes and it still tastes like "green plastic." I'm not giving up though! If it's a beneficial, I'm all about learning to love it.


Welcome richgirlred!

I've yet to discover a soy cheese that didn't have an avoid or two (or three!) in it, so now I stay away from it entirely. The texture isn't so great to me that I want to waste eating it with avoids.

I tend to eat goat or sheep cheese instead. Not a lot, though, cause they can pack on the pounds and I'm trying to unpack the pounds at the moment.


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I usually eat spinach with barley, butter and seasalt .. it's simply delicious !!!  


Dear LisaLea,

Barley + type B = Avoid




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Thanks Drea!

I think it's really "cheesy" (pun fully intended) when "they" (those evil food people) contaminate perfectly good beneficials with nasty avoids.

I love feta cheese but can only eat it "on" or "in" things--I can't take it straight. Sometimes I just need a piece of cheese! (for protein, to compliment my red wine, etc.) I usually eat low-fat mozzarella in those instances.

I hear you with the "unpacking the pounds" plan! I'm feeling less like a "Dixie Chick" and more like a "Dixie Chunk!"
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I'll eat rice cakes--even though there are strong similarities to munching on styrofoam. (Spread with a little peanut butter, it's flavored styrofoam but way better.)


Try those rice cakes lightly toasted, and they're quite delicious.  It brings out the flavor and the crisp texture doesn't resemble styrofoam.  It's more like popcorn then.

I'm an ex-southerner, if you can ever be an ex, where the South is concerned.  I was raised on everything avoid, and those food tastes are still buried somewhere!  



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Toasted? I never thought of that! They definitely need a little sumpin' sumpin' to spark them up a bit. My two dogs, who will eat virtually anything that hits the floor, walk away in disdain from rice cakes!

Honey, once a southerner, always a southerner! If you were born here, you never lose your birthright! I'll bet I could bake you a biscuit that would make you slap your mama! (If I were still baking biscuits, which I'm not, I promise! Really, no biscuits baked around here, no way . . .)
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Oh, you tempt me, RGR!    Even though I wouldn't touch them with a ten-foot pole, it makes me salivate just to hear the mention of southern biscuits, especially if you have some freshly churned sweet butter like my Grandmom used to make, and then smother the whole thing with some hot gravy.  

Pure avoid heaven!  (Maybe we could have a few sausage patties on the side!)



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On the subject of disliking beneficials, I seem to quickly develop a taste for anything and everything that is really healthy for my body.  The only thing I have any difficulty with is fish.  I do love salmon, but it's not beneficial for me.  I have actually come to love sardines, DREA!!    It took me a while, but the key seems to be to eat them with other foods that you already like.  

Most of the fish that are beneficial for me, I've never heard of.  Common ones like Cod, I only like breaded and deep fried, which wouldn't work for me, since the whole frying process seems very unhealthy to my way of thinking.  Maybe I'll get beyond it, and experiement a little, but I don't eat flour of any kind, so that limits my options with cod.

Mackerel is fantastic for my blood type, but it is really pretty distasteful for my tastebuds.  



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Mackerel is fantastic for my blood type, but it is really pretty distasteful for my tastebuds. †


Oh Iīm with you for sure !
Mackerel is very common here in tins with tomatosauce - seved on ryebread with mayo- and I alwys felt like when my friends in school had some.....
My kid feels the same about theese fishy sandwiches...
Problem with fish is that it has to be sooo fresh that most of us do not get it anymore unless we fish ourselves.

Yesterday I wanted to cook some cod- took some up from freezer- from a high class company- and when they defrosted they smelled so horrible fishy!
I understand why a fatty fish like mackerel/herring or slamon can smell strong!-
but cod should not since it is so lean!!!
I got so angry that I wrote to their consumer center- it simply must be bad fish !
Cod has alwys been a "safe" fish for me- pure white flesh- not fishy at all.... but after this I will only buy fish in fish shops.



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I love feta cheese but can only eat it "on" or "in" things--I can't take it straight. Sometimes I just need a piece of cheese! (for protein, to compliment my red wine, etc.) I usually eat low-fat mozzarella in those instances.

Have you ever tried pecurino (sheeps cheese)? Really good, but a little goes a long way.

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Okay.  After reading 5 pages of okra and turnip green complaints, I, as a born-and-raised Southerner, see the need to educate y'all.

There are several ways to make okra, the best of course being fried in a trusty ole iron skillet.  My mama always cut it up fresh and coated it in corn meal and fried it in safflower oil.  We (now all on the BTD) have experimented with spelt flour, rice flour and millet flour, and millet flour is our favorite, as it makes the okra crunchy.  If you cut it up fresh, it's not slimy at all.  If you have to buy it frozen, just thaw it out then you can rinse the slime off or just go ahead and coat it really well in whatever flour you're using.  Fry it in olive oil till it's browned or nearly black.  It will be a little gummy in the middle if you use frozen, but still very tasty.  My husband won't eat it unless it's burned to a crisp.  I like to sprinkle a little freshly ground coriander on it.  Salt it if you feel you must.

Okra is fine in a gumbo too, if you can eat any of the ingredients in gumbo, or add it to soup.  If you steam/boil it, leave the top on and use it as a handle--stab it with your fork and eat the good end.  Actually, you can eat the stem too if you've cooked it long enough to be tender.  Once you get used to it it's actually pretty good.  But if you're trying it for the first time, go for fried.  Here's something I have yet to try but have read it's good:  if you grow okra yourself (I highly recommend it if you live in zone 6 or South of), you will end up with a few pods that escaped your notice and got too big and tough to eat.  In that case, you can leave them on the stalk to dry, then shell out the seeds like peas.  You can cook them like dry beans and they're good protein.

Now, the traditional Southern way to cook greens is with a ham bone or bacon.  Obviously that's out for all of us unless we use turkey bacon (which usually contains at least one minor avoid).  If you can have apple cider vinegar, sprinkle a little on your cooked greens.  Delicious!  If vinegar is out, use a little lemon juice.  Also, some types of greens are more bitter than others.  If you find them really aweful by themselves, throw a few into soup or dry beans and they're less obvious.

Around here, when somebody complains that I've made something yucky again (usually turnips is the only thing to get that comment), I say, "Hey.  In this house we eat to feel good, not because it tastes good."


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Thank you Ribbit, for educating us ! I'm loving the greens and okra. I just had to get up the nerve to try okra for the first time. Now I eat it almost every week. I haven't been able to find it fresh in the stores (probably not the right season), but can find it canned and frozen. I actually kind of like the slightly gummy texture; especially the seeds. I'm glad to hear that there are substitutions for breading and frying. I'v been sautee-ing the okra in a bit of ghee and salt it at the end of the cooking. Yummmm.


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Pineapple!  I find it hideously disgusting.


More for me!  


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Awesome!  

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Mackerel is fantastic for my blood type, but it is really pretty distasteful for my tastebuds. †


Victoria, you may like to try and cook fresh mackerel in lots of lemon juice (and water), and maybe bay leaves & allspice, i.e. 'marinated'.

To prepare cod (I can only buy it frozen), I cook onions and garlic in olive oil, then add the fillets, and: turmeric, sweet paprika, a little bit of hot paprika, bay leaves and: ground cardamon, ground ginger, ground coriander seeds, a dash of cinnamon and maybe tiny dash of cloves, and: little water. 20-25 min on low-medium heat. It's too delicious. How can it be that I myself cook something so tasty, I wonder.



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Ribbit,
Thanks for that wonderful southern fried Okra recipe!  

Yael,
When you cook your fish in water, do you cover it while cooking?  I can't visualize how you do it?  Is it in a skillet with only a little water, or in a pot with a lot of water?  Thanks for trying to help me like fishes!  



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Yael, where around these parts do you get frozen cod?
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Dear LisaLea,

Barley + type B = Avoid



I just saw this post today !!

and we've since discussed the barley confusion, hence at least for now till further notice by Dr. D it's a neutral and I just ate some today for lunch with brussels sprouts, feta cheese, olive oil, onions and cayenne pepper !!
Yummmmiiii  


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Yael, where around these parts do you get frozen cod?


a) In Machane Yehuda at the fish mongers': David Dagim opposite Ha'Egoz St. - my regular at the market (expensive though, NIS 65 per kilo), and Ohana Dagim both keep it.
b) although you can find it wrapped in vacuum in any supermarket (mostly by Delidag), I prefer to buy at Itliz Shoshani in Emek Refa'im, because they are trustworthy and I can rely on the way they handle the merchandise, that is, once †the fish is thawed you can trust you won't have to throw it immediately into the dustbin. I buy my fish at Shoshani's regularly, and also at David Dagim, where you can find a variety of wonderful fresh fish from the sea. Wonerful time to visit the market is of course Fridays at 6:30 AM.



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Yael,
When you cook your fish in water, do you cover it while cooking? †I can't visualize how you do it? †Is it in a skillet with only a little water, or in a pot with a lot of water? †Thanks for trying to help me like fishes! †


Yes, I use a pot and cover it while cooking, so as to keep the heat and not let the water evaporate. For cod, the water doesn't have to cover the fish - the less the amount of water the tastier the result. The recipe for the mackarel is a hearsay, †my best friend told my 3 days ago how she prepared it. I dared to write about it because she told me that she enjoyed it so much. When I do it myself, I'll cover the mackarel well with the lemon juice and water, and will report.


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Thanks, Yael,
I saved your fish recipe in my recipe files.  The spices you use with the cod sound very good.  Have you ever tried cooking it for a shorter period of time?



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Thanks, Yael,
I saved your fish recipe in my recipe files. †The spices you use with the cod sound very good. †Have you ever tried cooking it for a shorter period of time?


Hi Victoria,
The thing is, I just wouldn't dare cooking a fish for less than 20 minutes, for fear it's not completely cooked, for fear of worms, germs etc. I never touch raw fish either... I'd rather overcook it a bit...
Love
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Yael, thank you for the info. I was at the shuk on Thursday (but got salmon), but Emek Rephaim is right around the corner. Sort of.
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That's very good - I come all the way from Malha!... He's really very good. Clean, professional, respectable, lots of customers. Also the price of fresh wild salmon fillet is much lower than at the shuk, and sometimes there are 'mivtza'im'. Enjoy!! †


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Thank you for sharing your okra recipe with us, Ribbit.

I enjoy the taste, texture, and flavor of fresh okra.  

And thank you yael p for sharing your fish cooking tips with us.

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Parsnips are it for me.  I keep trying them and I HATE parsnips, or as I call them Alien carrots.

I can't believe all of you peeps who don't like turnips these are honestly one of my favorites I eat them almost everyday



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Hey Laura,
Want to share with us some good ways to prepare turnips?    By the way, I like them.



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Parsnips are it for me.  I keep trying them and I HATE parsnips, or as I call them Alien carrots.


Alien carrots; that's good. I wouldn't say that I love parsnips, but they aren't bad in a carrot, ginger, apple juice combo. I made some roasted vegetable fries on Sunday, and parsnips were one of the three veggies...carrots and rutabagas being the other two. Of course the carrots were delicious, the parsnips were edible, but the rutabagas sort of tasted like cauliflower. I've only had rutabaga once before and frankly, I don't remember what it's supposed to taste like.

I did manage to eat them all, however, so I guess they weren't that bad.


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I recently tried eating a parsnip again last week and almost gagged.  I love rutabegas too, but can't eat as many of them as turnips since they are pretty starchy for me.

Expect a turnip extrodinare blog from me shortly



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Try juicing parsnip for a nice surprise!
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I juice parsnips all winter with beets, carrots and fennel.  Otherwise, I carefully choose only the small ones with a uniform shape, not that long, long stringy tail.  I scrub them very well, or scrape if necessary and steam them with carrots and red onions, maybe some baby kale or mustard greens.



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