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brenda50
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Thanks I will keep that in mind and trim the excess fat and make sure I get free range meat. It is true that a high animal protein diet including dairy and pork, is not the same thing. I am feeling a great deal more relaxed now about it.

Martyn

Interesting that it has been around for 10 years. I did not know that. I believe in going with our gut feelings. I have fought against mine regarding meat, it was strange, I felt a little bit ashamed of how much I liked it. Living with vegetarians probably influenced this a bit   I felt like ferocious preditor and cut right down on the meat I ate. Good to  hear that it is helping you. I am so encouraged that I might drop grains now instead of waiting. With a bag of walnuts, pumpkin seeds and prunes, I should not starve while I am away.

mlpaul

Yes I agree that it will take a while for the negative thoughts to go completely. I suppose increasingly feeling better will help dispel the myths. I have always felt better too after eating beef especially. When I think about it my mouth starts to water which makes me feel a little ashamed still.

John

Wow. That is so interesting,

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An excess of copper can easily lead one to a false impression of superiority of a vegan diet


Cats have problems with taurine too don't they when they are forced into going without meat? I was taking supplements for it at one time after I heard that people with chemical sensitivity needed more. I don't thing that I stayed on it long enough to see a difference though. I would rather have a juicy steak I think
I would love to hear more.

Victoria

Yiour experience as a macrobiotic are interesting to me. I too felt very clean inside after starting to eat that way. And I also felt very calm and centered. The way I felt totally convinced me about the diet. And after a few very strict months, I had a wonderful discharge which was amazing. It lasted about three days and the stuff that came out of my armpit was unbelievable, really sticky and stinky. I have heard that hairdressers discharge hair dyes etc out of their hands when they do this. It lifted my health up a notch afterwards which was great as I was seriously ill at the time. I never managed another discharge though. I was unable to stay strict enough. The psychological stress doing this was counter productive. If I had been having a steak or two it might have been different! Eventually my appetite went and I became seriously underweight and ill. My skin went yellowish and I looked very ill indeed. Funnily enough, I developed a grumbling appendix too but treat it in the macrobiotic way by starving for a couple of days and applying a tofu poultice. I won't say too much against macrobiotics because I learnt  some good ways to treat conditions using natural means. One drink I have used whilst having a chest infection and not being able to take anti-biotics, has saved my life many a time ie ginger and lotus root tea. But the diet is not perfect, which no doubt this one is not either, and I think that there is no shortcut in doing what macrobiotics teach which is to listen to our bodies and i was not actually doing that when I was wanting meat. They say that a man is either his own physician or a fool by the time he is 40. I am sure that mb is the answer for certain blod groups and not for others like you and me. It is all a matter of weighing things up and getting to know our bodies and appreciating what wonderful things they are, having a knowledge of their own that will guide us. Not scary after all!

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When I was a vegetarian, I thought I was eating  the best things for my body... but my body showed signs of stress... I had acne, my weight flucuated too much, and I deveoloped arthritis in my knees .. oh, and I can't TELL you how exhausted I was all the time...

so, when someone suggested I do the BTD, I was very sad to give up the vegetarian foods I loved... and  I really feared eating meat for health reasons...

but now that all my problems are  totally under control, I see that the  foods I was eating , albeit "healthy", were NOT for me.. all the grains and wheat were most inflamitory for me...

so, yes, I do worry that I eat a lot of beef.. but my body tells me that it's healthy now, and I think that's THE biggest testiment one could find..

I've been  following the O  diet for about three years now, and I have been meaning to get some bloodwork done just to "see".. back when I was a vegetarian, I had this done, and my levels were " high", as my dr. put it.. for someone who  was a vegetarian and runner... so we'll see  what is says when I eventually go back...
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Many hesitated to answer that question and those that did said that it is a good diet; however, it is not for everyone - especially those with food sensitivities/allergies.

To me, that is such a strange response for them to give since the BTD is the BEST diet for food allergies, imho.  Why?  Well, first of all, even for healthy (non-allergic) pups, it tells us to eat foods that work in harmony with our own individual "hard-wiring", and thus are not inflamatory or irritating to us.  Second, if one does have allergies, often the allergies are to avoids for your type.  Third, if someone has an allergy to a food that is beneficial or neutral for their type (such as, for example, Cassandra the blogger is allergic to beef and is Type O), the BTD does NOT say, well, you HAVE to eat that because it is on your beneficial or neutrals list.  No way, if you have a true allergy to any given food, of course you would not eat it, and that would not contradict the BTD in any way!!!  I mean, ostrich is beneficial for my type, yet I've never eaten it because it is extremely difficult to obtain, for one thing.  Just because I've never eaten that particular beneficial, doesn't mean I'm not on the BTD.  The beneficial and neutral lists just give us foods to choose from, they do not say we must eat ALL of the foods on the beneficial list (and/or on the neutral list).

So I don't get how any ND who actually knows anything about the specifics of the BTD could tell someone in good conscience that the BTD is not for people with food allergies or sensitivites.  I would say hogwash to that one.
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So what is one to do?  You try to do the right thing, and then some publication comes out saying something to the contrary.  I have gotten so desparate as conventional medicine has not helped my family (it has worked on temporarily relieving the symptoms, but does not get to the root of the problem) so I dove in head first researching alternative therapies.  The more I read, the more confused I get as what one person says contradicts what another says.  

I understand your confusion and frustration, but I agree wholeheartedly with MoDon:  most diet and nutritional advice is coming from a one-size-fits-all perspective, whereas the BTD is tailored to the individual.  As BTDers, we must learn to filter any sensational health news headlines and anything else we read/hear about diet/nutrition/health through our BTD glasses.  That is first and foremost.  However, there is way more to why so many of us are understandably confused than just the one-size-fits-all, reductionist approach that the mainstream society has to such issues.  There is also the sad fact that so much of what passes for "expert" advice and unbiased studies, etc., are actually funded by either big agribusiness (as in, the wheat and corn and junk-food pushers, not to put too fine a point on it), or by big pharmaceutical companies (as in, people who want you sick and taking pills).  Frankly, though this may sound somewhat Oliver-Stoneish/conspicacy-theoryish, I view EVERYTHING I hear, diet/nutrition/health news-wise, with a VERY critical eye until I figure out several things:

1.  Who sponsored the study?  This is key.  Follow the money, babies, and be amazed.

2.  Related to #1:  What is the agenda of the sponsor(s)?

3.  Do they have a one-size-fits-all approach?

If you approach it with such a critical and discerning eye, and look into the three questions above, then usually a lot of the confusion and frustration peels away very quickly and things become quite stunningly clear.
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At the moment, I have switched to eating all organic foods and cut out all refined, processed and "un-natural" foods.  We all felt better.  

Excellent!
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I then moved to the BTD...To be honest, I'm worried about eating so much meat (we do like it and feel better when we eat it, but what if it is hurting our insides as some doctor's mention - i.e. heart disease, cancer, cholesterol, etc. - and we just don't know it yet?).

Actually, the BTD even for O's does not recommend "so much meat".  The recommended portions of meat for O's is actually very small compared to the typical American diet.  It is high-quality, nutrient-dense, small portions.  The basis of the O diet is vegetables and fruit.  Of course, protein is very, very crucial and key, but there isn't much of it.  Just be sure to eat some several times per day, but again, in small portions ideally.  About the heart disease, cholesterol, etc. that we "just don't know about yet", seriously, don't worry, it is the opposite, the BTD by nature is very healing and balancing and will work with your body to prevent all those dread diseases.  Example:  my BP was 140/90 years ago when I followed what the "experts" said to do (high grain, low-fat, etc.).  Now?  112/64, thank you very much!  BTD, baby.

As you said in a later post in this thread, trust yourself.  I'm an intuitive type and I find this diet highly, highly intuitive.  Our bodies, even after years of dietary abuse resulting in a profoundly messed up internal compass, do usually, on some deep level, know what is good for them and will readily respond once they are finally given what they need.  In the immortal words of Janis Joplin "If it feels nice, don't think twice"...then again, she died young of a drug overdose (!!!), so let me pick someone else to quote *lol*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Let's try this instead:  "If it makes sense, don't dispense (with it *lol*).

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Another vegetarian story:
My mother was a vegetarian for many years.  During that time she became depressed and suicidal and was hospitalized for a while.  She then got a very rare cancer and went through surgery and chemo.  After all that, she figured that being vegetarian wasn't doing anything to safeguard her against these things so she went back to meat.  Pork.  She missed pork a lot when she was a veggie.  For the past 20 years she's been eating a lot of pork.  She's always been a starchatarian (love that word!) and can't live without her crackers, breads, corn.  Now she's over-emotional, moody, chronic fatigue, fibro, overweight and alone.  She's an O.  


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  Years before "Eat Right for Your Type" was even thought of, I suffered from Rheumatoid Arthritis. Rejecting conventional medicine, I spent eight years going to ND's, Herbalists, Chiropractors, Massage Therapists, and trying magnets, stones, meditation, energy healing, or any other alternative to drugs that might help with my pain. No one told me to get off of the wheat, I was a vegetarian, and my pain was so chronic and severe for such a long span of years, that I was depressed and prone to panic attacks. The misery of my daily existence was terribly sad, but I never gave up hope.

  When I found the Blood Type Diet, I was pain free in 3 months. The very first book, the simple diet in that version cured me. Oh the joy! As great as my pain had been, my joy at being pain free was even greater. I went back to all those people who had treated me, and they acted like it was no big deal. Many said they didn't agree with the book at all, claimed it was not based on science. Clearly they had not read it, and the fact that I was standing before them healthy, and pain free made no impression at all. They were so perturbed by my claims that they didn't even express happiness for me, and some of these people are my friends, even today. After this many years I have to accept their willful ignorance. I have also realized through the years most doctors are not scientists at all. This type just do as they were taught, and have no curiosity about anything else. No wonder they are shocked when we, the mere "patient", questions anything, because they almost never do. Those kind simply dismiss anything not familiar to them, or reject ideas because they scare them. My sisters doctor, (who used to be mine, by the way), admitted that it is hard to advise against what the majority are saying, even when research shows Atkins to be right.

  I am not saying all Vegans are like this, but I have met  enough to know that some would rather suffer ill health, and even die, rather than eat meat. This type think the rest of us should be willing to do the same. That veganism, or vegetarianism is not healthy for everyone, is a fact of life, but this is not the issue for this type of person. Protecting animals is thier issue, and anything that can be done to bring this about is okay, regardless of the consequences to this O type's health.

  I can't speak for anyone but myself. Yet I do know what is going on inside my body, because it tells me when I am eating wrong. The healthy cholesterol levels, and other conventional "scientific" tests show that my high meat diet is working fine. At nearly 50 years, I have zero health issues when many of my peers are struggling with allergies, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and worse.

  The truth is I can't eat the whole wheat, vegetarian diets anymore. My mind and body can't function at all on that stuff. I can't eat fruit as a meal, it makes me tired. Can't eat a lot of beans, they double me over in pain. Whole grains and starchy vegetables make me feel hungry and drained. Yet these are the foods the FDA, traditional ND's and many alternative practitioners still insist are good for me.

Most of us here on the forum, have arrived at a place where we are thrilled with what  the BTD diet has given us. We are willing to grow with it as new discoveries are made. When something does not work for us, we don't throw out the diet, we modify it for our individual needs. That is what the good Doctor has taught us that no one else has. That we are individuals, and it's okay to adapt foods according to our unique needs. All we can do is share that experience with you and others.
 
  In the end, we all have to choose for ourselves who we are going to listen to, and then, what we are going to eat. I choose the O diet because it works. Why would I listen to anyone other than my body? I am the expert, thanks to Dr. D'Adamo and my willingness to learn. So I just love it when people tell me every expert out there is against this diet. All I can say is, they are all wrong, each and every one of them.


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Lynn, what a story. I am so glad you are pain free!  There is nothing like beingt in pain everyday, going to bed w/ it, waking up w/ it, thinking it will never leave you. Then wahlah!!!  You find the answers! When one lives the experience, how do you doubt it, right?  At 100% compliance, I found relief from all of my ailments. That's what I want my DH to do. Experience it for himself. Just one mth and he'd never go back! You know
It IS very hard to stand by and watch all your friends and family be sick and miserable when there is a simple solution. Nothing we can do but plant and water.  
I've come to realize that for me right now, I, too, am going to have to avoid fruit. Due to weak adrenals. I look forward to the day I can eat it again w/o feeling tired and wiped out.
LOVE your comment: "I just love it when people tell me every expert out there is against this diet. All I can say is, they are all wrong, each and every one of them."  You are so right!
Re: the comment about the thread EquiPro had started about eating more veggies and fruits and having meat as more of a side dish. Made sense to me when I read it. Tried it. Found it didn't work for me. I need more meat, so I went back to eating the way I did before. Just one more thing that points to the individualism of this "diet".



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What fantastic posts on this thread....Great questions from mlpaul and Brenda.  Intelligent and fluent responses from so many of you.  

Lynn, Thank you for that wonderful glimpse of your history.  That is fantastic...the results you have had.

And P.Twisty I love your way with words, and what you said made so much sense.  I also was thinking of some of the well-known doctors, etc. who are putting down the BTD.  It strongly occurs to me that if they accept and support the science behind this way of eating, they would have to change the position that has made them a lot of money and sold books for them.  



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You two mention a trouble with eating meat ... this 'problem' is much more physical than you may think .... macrobiotics is very, very close to a vegan diet ... if the fish and the infrequent eggs/dairy are left out.  An excess of copper can easily lead one to a false impression of superiority of a vegan diet [our MoDon quoting from the doctor who is the world's authority on copper toxicity - Dr. Wilson].

Here is the article about Copper Toxicity Syndrome.



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Thank-you for the article on Copper Toxicity Syndrome.  I was reading an article in the Natural Health magazine ("Make One Change - A Simple Step Toward Wellness") about copper and the need to add to one's diet.  It suggested purchasing a copper cup, filling it up with water, letting it sit overnight and drinking it the next morning as a way to rid the body of toxins, support the immune system and enhance digestion.  It states "Daily Detox:  Sip water from a copper cup to flush out toxins."  

I'm glad you made this post - I almost purchased a copper cup.  
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sorry I made a faux-pas,

the genetic condition for copper-toxicity is called: Wilson's Disease ... I strongly doubt these are the same person (as I had assumed).  

As it turns out though .... this Dr. L. Wilson may have a more thorough approach to handling this than others.  Thanks MoDon.

A big rage these days is to wear a copper bracelet to minimize pain of arthritis ... adherents often talk of the 'superiority' of this method.

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Adding my experience:

Every doctor, chiropractor, naturalpath, etc., i have been too has poo pooed this way of eating.  i don't understand it.  ego maybe?  

i am not 100% compliant.  sometimes we have lifes that do not allow us to be in our kitchens preparing the ER4YT foods at all times.  I certainly do not and I am a former food addict so I do not lay heavy restrictions on myself or it backfires into a binge.  

when i am eating according to my blood type about 75% of the time, it's great.  it works.  recently had all kinds of blood work done and my cholerestal is fantastic and that is after years of binging on horrid junk foods and coffee.  But the binging has subsided and i've cut out coffee completely.  Coffee (even though I love it), is like a demon in my system exasperating the cravings. I eat alot of red meat and have ghee on my toast and almond butter and eggwhite protein shakes and vegies (not as many as I should); and fruits and i have green tea soy latte's at starbucks - WITH whip and sometimes a treat there as well.  

For me eating right 70-75% of the time is huge!  And it's done wonders for my health and brain chemistry.

So I think the professionals in the health and medicine world are poo pooing this because they have ego's or are mis-informed and don't have the time to sit down and really study it and they also get their own plans going that they can then sell to their patients.  

I just don't listen.  It has caused doubt in me but i've learned to just depend on how i feel.  And that's what we all really have to do.  I was fanatic for years on this diet, that diet, the other diet.. God I was going insane!  It feels good to give myself the freedom to pick and choose and i'm so sick of feeling sick that most of the time, that I find I choose healthy.

onward...
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what I observed was : chronic ailments are almost created by MD's and pharmalobby sorry but this is truth and they can't really help in such cases because they ARE la causa !!!!

Our faultive expectancies  about *healings- and time to get healed off* whatsoever...is just   nah = obsolete......thatswhy we have to re-learn how to do, how to
treat ourselves correctly and most important of all is: to realize and to be able to get the differences between good and infos; means we should give IfHI muchmore importance....= really much more !!!
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When I originally started this thread, I was very new to the BTD diet and had a lot of questions.  My concerns stemmed from those in the medical profession not supporting something that I thought would get to the root of the problem rather than just continuing to treat all the individual problems.  I could not understand why they would not support this - after all, they have been through all this medical training - they should understand it better than I do!  If it makes perfect sense to me - a person without any medical training (but lots of knowledge from family members with CFIDS, Fibromalysia, Auto Immune Distorders, Post polio syndrome, Asthma, etc.), then they should support it.  

All the posts on this thread and other threads have really helped me to understand what is going on with those in the medical field who don't "get it."  What really helped me was when I got to Chapter 8:  The Key to Living Right in the LR4YT book.  The section entitled "Making the Most of This Book" really put things into perspective for me.  I'm glad that Dr. D included this in his book and I agree with everything that he mentions.  It calmed me down as I had the same reactions at the beginning that he was describing.  

I'm not 100% compliant either, but I am much healthier!  I try to stay away from all the voids, but every now and then - especially when I have company over - I will eat pound cake, something battered and fried, popcorn, etc.  When I'm home with just my family, I do fine.  We do treat ourselves once in awhile to a milkshake, or a hamburger - without the bun, etc.  I have added as many of the beneficials as I can and when I go shopping, I carry a list I created with me of all the foods that are beneficial/neutral for my type.  I have tried new things and have found some that I really enjoy (pineapple juice  ).  

I'm at a point now where I'm comfortable with what I'm doing and know that I'm still on the path of learning - and will probably always be there.  I know view this as a good thing and not something to be scared or cautious of.  I'm actually more aware of how my body feels after stress, activity, certain foods, etc.  It's pretty exciting!

I went to my doctor last week for another round of antibiotics (hopefully for the last time as I've started using a neti-pot) and she asked me how I was doing on the diet   .  I told her the swelling around my ankles has disappeared (they thought I had sprained my ankle), I have more energy, my "brain fog" has gotten better, I've lost some weight, etc.    She seems to have accepted this more and says that she is glad that I am healthier!  I feel much better now!  I thank-you all for your posts!  They really helped me to get through my doubt about the BTD and through the tough times I had at the beginning!  
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Melanie, the longer you are on the BTD, the more any doubts you had will melt into the mists, as the good results you have reported thus far (like the ankle swelling going down, etc.) are only the beginning.  I'm excited for you and I'm glad you both asked the questions you had, and feel comfortable with the responses you received.  Keep asking questions if any pop up, a questioning mind is a healthy mind!


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I have tried new things and have found some that I really enjoy (pineapple juice  ).  


Melanie, as you're already enjoying the pineapple juice, if you'd like a nice soda-like drink, try adding some seltzer water to it. Oh so good!!  Great pineapple taste w/ fizz!!  
I just also wanted to say, you have a great attitude. Great posts as well




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funkymuse
Monday, July 24, 2006, 9:50pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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So as a testimony to eating avoids or not eating them I should say... (!) last night we went for mexican food and I usually am strong enough to stay away from the corn chips and salsa.. but not last night.

This morning my left knee (which has osteoarthritis in it), was aching for no reason and my little finger on my left hand that acts up when i eat avoids (ESP CORN AND WHEAT), was hurting.  

so once again, the body never lies....

 onward!
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Quoted from funkymuse
was hurting.  so once again, the body never lies....  


You can say that two times!!       Like a real dingbat, I caved and had a BLT on white bread yesterday. Went to bed w/ a nagging headache, so took something before bed, woke up w/ it and it turned into a full blown migraine today despite taking medicine for it twice. Now WHY does that not surprise me!!     Still can't believe I ate bacon!!  Talk about being chock FULL of JUNK!!  Geeezzzzzzzzzzz!



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mlpaul
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I am starting to be able to recognize how certain foods affect my body - i.e. when I eat wheat products, my tendonitis flares up,  I have pain in my foot and back and I get stomach cramping.  Unfortunately, I've been so use to having those pains and cramping, that it feels somewhat normal to me.  I do feel better when I'm following the BTD diet and those pains disappear.  I can't wait to have a "new normal."

I do very well when I'm by myself and have gone shopping (and made dinner as it is my lunch and snack the next day).  If I get out of this routine, or I have company over - which happens a lot, I slip up.  They joke about the diet saying "you can't have cucumbers?  But they are good for you," or "it won't hurt you to have a little bite."  They look in my kitchen for food and I can tell they are hungry and don't see anything that they are use to eating.  

Over the weekend, my mother-in-law cooked breakfast for the family and when I sat down, there were eggs and potatoe (cooked together), rolls with cheese on top, olives and pancakes.  I boiled two eggs and while waiting, nibbled on the egg and potatoe - a few small bites.  They teased me about what I was eating (in their culture, it is rude not to eat when food is put in front of you) and by the time the eggs were done, I was not hungry.  They open the book I'm reading and disect the diet - why can't you have cantalope?  It's good for you.  All the foods I like are in the avoid column - how can you go without eating these? etc., etc., etc.  I want to tell them - "thank-you for supporting me with something I believe in and something that will keep me healthy.  If you don't want to do it, that's fine, but don't tease me just because I've found a new way of living that you don't understand.  Just respect my wishes!"  I guess it's just human nature to put down things you don't understand.  I had a hard time with this at first as well.
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I am starting to be able to recognize how certain foods affect my body - i.e. when I eat wheat products, my tendonitis flares up,  I have pain in my foot and back and I get stomach cramping.  


This comes very naturally once you know to "look" for it. Before BTD I had NO clue that the foods I was eating were causing all my problems. Feel like a big dork now.  

Quoted from mlpaul
I do very well when I'm by myself and have gone shopping (and made dinner as it is my lunch and snack the next day).  If I get out of this routine, or I have company over - which happens a lot, I slip up.  They joke about the diet saying "you can't have cucumbers?  But they are good for you," or "it won't hurt you to have a little bite." .


Par for the course for many of us to slip when away from home. Don't beat yourself up over it.        I put up w/ this same cr*p from my DH and daughter. I have the satisfaction in knowing, and once in a while I even tell them so, that I will have "the last laugh".  


Quoted from mlpaul
They teased me about what I was eating (in their culture, it is rude not to eat when food is put in front of you) They open the book I'm reading and disect the diet - why can't you have cantalope?  It's good for you.  All the foods I like are in the avoid column - how can you go without eating these? etc., etc., etc.


who needs enemies, eh?  

 
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I want to tell them - "thank-you for supporting me with something I believe in and something that will keep me healthy.  If you don't want to do it, that's fine, but don't tease me just because I've found a new way of living that you don't understand.  Just respect my wishes!"  I guess it's just human nature to put down things you don't understand.  


I'd see absolutely nothing wrong w/ telling them how you feel. Had to have this same conversation w/ the DH. Now he keeps it to himself. Everyone has different likes, dislikes, interests, whatever.  Those differences need to be respected.    It might be some peoples' human nature to put down things they don't understand, but it isn't very loving. I feel that same way w/ the DH and daughter. THEY are the ones that are suffering however.  




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I agree with Italy's last comment.  You may need to make some kind of statement to them.  Think about it until you come up with something you can feel good about saying. You can be kind and still let them know that they aren't treating you with respect.

After that, I would probably keep my book in a private place and don't let them treat your eating choices disrespectfully.  I would just not get hooked into a discussion about it one way or the other.  I was married to an old world Italian for 18 years.  There was no way his family was going to change and I knew they didn't respect my choices.  So I tried to keep it from becoming an issue.  However, I decided that I didn't deserve to be put down, and I let them know that.  



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well done Victoria  
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