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ISA-MANUELA
Thursday, July 27, 2006, 9:31pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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hmmmmmmm it just became a *must*...must repeat my *guruj* Jean Klein:


"and have a look for what "you are not"
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Quoted from Dr D
Everything is as religious as you choose to make it.  

A God you 'walk with' will tend to promote self reliance and good deeds. A God 'up there' will allow you to avoid taking responsibility for the consequences of your own actions.

Barring brainwashing, labeling someone a  'guru' or 'superhero'  just depreciates the hard work and effort from what is, in fact, always a rather normal human being.


It's not the distance between them and you; it's the distance between you and you.


Way to tell it like it is, Dr D.

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ISA-MANUELA
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mlpaul hi
and I feel also your iritations,I've got em as well with the try to go for several swiss insurances....but also here..old school is belived...*it can't be what may not be* !!!! thats' the fact and Peter is right about the syndromes
but please one thingy was just jumping in my eyes- please no 5HTP for O's.....try if needed with the aminoacids l'tryptophane yup and also l'tyrosine...ok too but the plant behind 5HTP seems to be a no-no for all O's
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Hi mlpaul
I did not read everything in this Thread. But I think the most important thing is, to get to know your individual dates. Are you secretor or non secretor? Are you MN, NN, or MM ? And as a woman you must know Rh+ or Rh - if your man is Rh+. All dates will deliver the right way of live your individual  
"Bloodtypediet". Read the Book 4Your type once more and again and again. You'll never get the contence and the fullness of information. You got to get to know yourself. Try to live as you like,find your way (of course bloodtyperight best), have a lough, be happy. No fears.No stress. And don't give up your feeling because somebody who (per example your doctor) knows it better. Make your own opinion.  
Only you is right!

That is my opinion
          Frank
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have a nice d(w)ay!  

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Quoted from ironwood55


Second, not everyone is going to get high iron levels from eating a high iron diet, probably only those that have the genetic mutations for hemochromatosis.



I totally agree with this!!!   I get turned away from donating blood about 75% of the time, even when I have eaten a lot of red meat.  Only when I have a lot of spinach do I get to donate every time.
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Quoted from mlpaul
sensitivities/allergies.  
Dr. D'Adamo recommended 5-HTP for carbohydrate cravings and now does not due to additional research.  I know it is all "scientific" and science is not perfect and ever changing.  I just want to do the right thing and am a bit frustrated that by doing so, I may hurt myself in the process.


I think that if you follow the diet and you feel A-MA-ZING, like many of us do, then you are doing something good for your body.  OK, heroin addicts feel amazing, but not in their soul and not for very long.  There are days when I do everything right--food wise and exercise wise and thinking about my insides wise, that I feel amazing.  To my soul.  A-MA-ZING.  

Regarding BTD, I've always been under the impression that if there is a hint of something not being good for us, it is an avoid.  I think that if something was thought to be beneficial because of the good things that it does do for folks, and then after more testing it was found that because of a certain process or it being derived from a certain species of plant it is now no longer beneficial and something we should not have, for the most part, it was probably more or less ok for you.  Or ok enough that the bit that you had before it became an avoid was not going to destroy your health forever.   All but about three people  have avoids sometimes.  The avoids that they have probably accumulate to much worse than having 5-HTP for a little while.

(That might have been confusing.  I was hoping to be inspiring on the first part.   Might have started babbling in the second part.  There were thoughts in there that were hard to get out.  Sorry!)
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The blood type diet is 100% accurate and is true.  If people don't beleive it than they are just bleep out of luck.
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Read most of the posts in this thread and the thought that keeps running through my mind is how sensitive/atuned we are to our bodies.  I know people have said that I am very sensitive to my body and how it reacts to different foods.  This is good!

There is something I tend to do, and wonder if others do it also, and that is sabotage my health/life.  It's a deeply imbeded trait that rears its ugly head whenever things are going  well with my health.  I'll be feeling so good, even joyful at how good I feel in body, mind and spirit, and then I'll think - I want some chips.  Then I want more, and more, and of course, then I'm here writing this, with a cold!!  (Off my Moducare and can usually recoup quicker on it.)

I find it goes hand in hand with my addictive personality.  One won't hurt me!

My new motto in life - Live and Learn and Laugh   



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Hi im an Australian Naturopathic student about to qualify in May - ive just found this forum and im very intersted by whats being said (first off grass fed beef is the best because its high Omega 3 ratios) - im currently doing supervised clinic hours in Brisbane to qualify and my head tutor is huge into the BTD and we recommend it to everyone we see in the clinic  and always see an improvement in our patients - i follow it myself - im an AB and so does my husband - hes an O - but i have a couple of reservations about advising clients to follow the BTD when i qualify - a lot of other naturopaths dont think it works and have problems telling people to cut out certain fruit and veg when we are always trying to encourage people to eat more fruit and veg - i worry about it is too hard for people to follow- and has it actually been proven that eating lots of meat as an O is not harmiful long term???? im feeling confused  ..........im eager for more info - (ive read LRFYT)
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which book have you read so far?
in the Live Right book the food lists also have the servings per week or per day......
the type O diet isn t 'all about meat' actually.........the frequency values for meat are not all that exaggerated........BTD is very balancing and antiinflammatory......
I suggest you read the books and also take advantage of all the data on this website, it s endless!!


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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Also does anyone know how you can test for secretor/non in Australia???????
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in Australia (Perth)
http://www.pathlab.com.au/about/contact.asp.

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Phone: +61 3 8831 3000
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''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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thanks A great info )
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oooo yippiie another AB....welcome..welcome..welcome........ I knew it ...I knew it.. the AB's will rule the world



btw...this pic. with the beans look like Kidney's in a swimsuit
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It may be that those who had trouble with Atkins were As and ABs.

BTD is the most intelligent plan out there.

Amost a year ago, a feature article in Newsweek claimed that "scientists" were only a few years away from perscribing customized diets for every individual based on genetic evidence.....they did not mention Dr. D's work, but  blood typing is the first step in that direction!   Dr. D did challenge the writer of that article but they readily discounted him.  It's so obvious! (to me anyway)  

BTD is the most intelligent plan out there!

I am almost 100% BTD compliant 18 months now and my health is so much better than it was 2 years ago even 10 years ago.... and I have hard evidence to prove it (  4 lipid blood tests chloresterol tests  in 2 years that show a steady decline in chloresterol levels).  


Living healthy is an Art.
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I agree with Ribbit that there is a detectable cultishness in some posts that is not the fault of either the doctor or the diet...its just how some people are! (I used to be a cult magnet myself) In other words I am not worried at all about the intent of the BTD, just the perspective occassionally seeping in. Some posts playfully call him "our master" ...and I realize that in some cultures this means "teacher"....but it can trigger an uncomfortable moment...
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I would just like to say that any advice that western medicine is giving you regarding your dietary habits should be avoided like the plague.  They do an awful lot to ensure that people keep coming back.  There is no money in treating healthy people, only the sick.  I am an ex-dental hygienist, and you would be amazed at the misinformation out there!  As for your fear of consuming too much meat, think about it; before the agricultural revolution roughly 12,000 years ago, what did people have to eat?  The animals they kept, and that's pretty much it.  You would be lucky to come across some tubers or a hanful of berries twice a year.  Maybe once every GREAT while you'd stumble upon a bee hive and have honey.  Our genes are 99.9% the same as they were previous to the agricultural revolution.  Never before in history have we as a species consumed a diet as high in grains, refined sugars, and processed food as we do now.  Nor did we consume a "low-fat" diet.  Look around us, guys!  It is so common to die of one of our modern degenerative diseases that people just shrug it off and blame it on "bad genes".  We accept it!  Well, not me.  I do not believe that we were blueprinted for such failure.   Sorry for the rant; I just truly feel that we took the wrong fork in the road a while back, and our very survival depends upon us getting back on track....
A wonderful and informative website to check out is http://www.WestonAPrice.org  

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Welcome to the BTD Forum

Unfortunately, The Weston Price site just advocates another one-size-fits-all approach.


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I just want to add my personal experience to this great thread.

I have been diagnosed with fibromyalgia/myofascial pain over six months ago. Conventional doctors said they could do nothing for me except dispense all kinds of colorful pills.

I even tried a naturopath who promised me good health if I was to abide by her recommendations. She recommended supplements for muscle pain and inflammation. After two months of following her 'protocol' I did not feel a drop better.

I asked her about the btd and she said she's heard about it and that yes she knows there are people who do well on it. She did not seem to believe it was what I needed.

I started the btd and after two weeks I was able to say, 'I have no muscle pain!' But as soon as I felt better I began slipping...eating avoids....and I have been feeling awful since then...

This time around I intend to do this right. So am waiting for secretor test results and then will do this btd full-fledged....

Looking back, I have to say those two weeks that I was 100% compliant were the best two weeks of my past nine months! Can't wait to be 100% compliant again!
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you can do it!!


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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Thank you! Will the btd restore my adrenals and thyroid, or must I incorporate Dr. D's supplements? I do take a good multi and b and c from another company.
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multi and b and c from another company


can you post the ingredients in those multis?
is your vit C, ascorbic acid?
that might be derived from corn.....

btd is anti inflammatory by nature, but you need to give it time , compliance and conviction to let it do its balancing job.

protocols can be added as you walk.


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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