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Don
Sunday, July 9, 2006, 4:02am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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You are right in that neither soy flour or almond meal would be considered a grain.

However, grain is not the only category that should be limited for type O. If you look at the frequency for beans/legumes you will see that it is very small too and it is not one of the best food
categories for type O. Therefore, using very much soy flour isn't really how a type O should eat. Also some people have problems with soy, either allergies or with the phytoestrogens in it so if you decide to use much soy I would recommend that you take note of how you do with it.

Almonds, and therefore almond meal, are OK occasionally, but I wouldn't recommend eating significant amounts of almonds in any form on a regular basis. Almonds are high in omega 6 EFAs. There again look at the recommended frequency for nuts and seeds and focus your servings on the beneficial ones like walnuts and flaxseed.

Most people new to the BTD think the same way and ask these same sort of food substitution questions. I know I did. Once you get to phase 3 as described above you will probably love your new diet and all the great foods in it and won't miss, or even think about, the grain based foods you used to eat and won't care about finding substitutes for them.


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Sunday, July 9, 2006, 11:43am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I thought about the limitations in these other categories after I sent the post.  Thanks for bringing me back "inside the boundaries."  

The information as presented in his books, ER4YT and LR4YT is very captivating and is commen sense to me and I thought it would be easy to start this diet; however, now that I have, I do find it VERY hard to rigidly stick to.  My hat goes off to those that do.  They have awesome willpower (which, I'm sure comes from feeling better).   I'm not at that point yet.  I have lost some weight initially - probably water weight as I'm constantly going to the bathroom, but I feel hungry ALL THE TIME!  

I do eat according to the diet . . . a glass of lemon water upon waking with a banana, an occassional egg or fruit in the morning (I have not been able to eat meat in the morning yet - I am working on this, and trying to find out how to fit it in so it doesn't feel so "wierd").  I eat a very early lunch (around 10:00 am), which is leftovers from dinner, the night before (this includes meat!  ).  I eat the majority of my calories for the day at this time.  At night I will have a small portion of what I've cooked for dinner with a salad (packed with beneficials) and/or fruit.  My snacks throughout the day consist of fruit and/or a small portion of grains.  I have given up all avoids and do not have them in my house (have removed for temptation purposes).  I will allow myself to have an occassional avoid when I'm out of the house, which is not very often.

Again - thank-you for all the support and bringing me back in when I've wandered too far out!  I hope that my body will soon adjust to this diet and I won't have to think so much!
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Sunday, July 9, 2006, 4:18pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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If excess weight is an issue then grains and nuts should be used infrequently, if at all. I'm not sure what the frequency/serving size is for soy nuts.  I don't have my LR4YT now so I can't look it up.  


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Don
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I suspect that you would not be as hungry all day if you would start your day with a high protein lower carb breakfast and cut out snacking on grains. Eating protein will usually stop food craving for a type O.

I would be more concerned about the grains, and occasional avoids, you are eating impacting weight loss vs. nuts. I would eat nuts for snacks.


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Welcome to the Diet!

I also get sinus infections and have ear problems but lately what has really helped is to pour salt water into the sinuses, there is a certain pot you can use (forgot the name),  a tea spoon of salt per cup.  Also I added a drop of coloidal silver to the cup and that worked great.  Coloidal silver is a natural antibiotic.  You can also put some in your ears to help.  

Quiting wheat helped me with chronic fatigue and quitting sugar is very important.  

For the stomach problems you might want to try probiotics (natural bacteria found in the stomach).  Also quitting sugar should help greatly with this problem.  
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... lately what has really helped is to pour salt water into the sinuses, there is a certain pot you can use (forgot the name),  a tea spoon of salt per cup.

It is called a neti-pot. I use 1 tsp of salt per pint of water in mine.

And the past several months I have been putting a heaping 1/4 tsp of xylitol in it too as it is supposed to help infections and fungus (candida). I think that it does help.


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For the past two days, I have incorporated approved beans and lamb sausage into my morning meals - this has helped a lot!  I did eat too many of the cookies I made (they were good!!!) and the weight loss stopped (in fact, I gained 1 lb back ).  I am starting to realize how my body reacts to certain foods and what it needs to get through the day.  Eating the meat in the morning helped to ease the hunger pains I had throughout the day.  I switched to eating meat in the morning and afternoons and salads/vegetables and fruit at night.  

I have ordered a neti-pot (a stainless steel one) and am waiting for it to arrive.  I am waiting to find an ND (or someone in the medical profession who supports the BTD) before taking any natural medicine as I want to be careful about reactions and interactions.  I will add Xylitol to my list.  Thank-you!

Thank-you for all your suggestions!  They have helped a lot!
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hi all I am new to this thing .I got talking to someone about my food problems and all the things that make me run to the toilet,gas problems pains in the gut you get the picture *sigh* and they lead me to here.I ordered the blood test form this site and I'm a type A.Does it matter is your a type A neg or pos?The test says that I'm a type A pos.Im going to order the book but I wont get it for 4 or 5 days.I also don't know about the non secretor or secretor thing as the test I did,did not include that info.What does this mean and how important is it?And where do I get the test to find this out?Also I was told at a health food store since I'm a type A to not eat wheat,and no dairy etc.can anyone give me a longer list of foods to avoid for type A?and some things i can eat.i have no clue of what i can and cant eat now but a few things.I cant wait till I get the book since my tummy has been giving me a lot of problems for years on end.well that's it for now.sorry if I posted this in the wrong section being a newbie and all.I will be back later on today to check back in.thanks all.......bo
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Henriette Bsec
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Hi Bo and welcome

Untill you get your book you can check foods that you eat from the typebase.
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm

About being rh - and +
The RH positive do not change anything

The secretor test can be ordered from nap as well.
In general about 8 out of 10 people will be secretor- however you┤ll notice on this board that a lager % is non secretor.(nonnie)
It really changes a lot of food especially for A┤s
I would say it depends on your situation economically and healthvise.
If you can┤t afford a test right now I would just start with the secretor diet- but since you have health problems it would be wiser to find out if you are a nonnie.
The diet is broken down in secretor and non secretor in the LIVE right for your type book.
I personally find it better than the Eat right book- but ERFT is easier to begin with.

You posted right btw


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Hi Bo, and welcome to the fourm.  I see you picked out a shield already.  That's great.

Secretor~non-secretor status is covered in Dr. D's latest book, Live Right 4 Your Type.

You can also read about it in the last page of the tutorial, here

Until your book arrives (which ever one you ordered), I highly recommend just browsing around the web site in general.  There's a ton of information throughout the entire site, not just the forum here.  I recommend checking out the Media Center page.  That's where you can actually listen to recordings of Dr. D on the radio, and giving some lectures.  I also recommend browsing through Dr. D's wiki.  You can find these links on the front page of the site.

And most of all, please feel free to ask as many questions as you need.  We are all here to help each other succeed in this new way of eating and living.

If you are dealing with health issues, I highly recommend getting your secretor status tested.  Especially as a Type A, because 25+ foods change value from allowed to avoid, on the Type A secretor diet, compared to the Type A non-secretor diet.  On the forum, you will also see the term "nonnies."  That's forum slang for non-secretor.

Finding out your secretor status is, imho, the number one thing to get you on the right path to eating right for your type.  Until your book comes in the mail, I recommend purusing the TypeBase (link at the top of this page, and on the front page of the web site), to see what the status is of some of the foods you regularly eat.  TypeBase4 has the most up to date food values, and is the best place to look when looking for a food's value.

I'm sure there will be some other Type A's who will chime in soon with some suggestions on what's best for you.  Something that you can start doing immediately, is drink a warm glass of lemon juice (fresh squeezed lemon) first thing in the morning.  This helps to clear mucus from the body.

Can you share with us some typical meals that you are eating now?  Again, welcome!  Keep asking those questions!


Knowledge is power.  SWAMI gives you the diet that will unlock the key to better health, and it's all based on your unique individuality.
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bo, just wanted to wish you a warm welcome to BTD and the forums!!    You are in for such a treat.............good health AND good friends!!  



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Welcome Bo-  it will soon be like home here to you, welcome!  You can check out the library while you wait for the book you ordered or others.
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thanks.i eat alot of chicken and turkey i was told that was ok?i stoped drinking coffee and soda i use to drink alot of it to much and i feel a little better from cutting those out.in the morning i eat a few dounts bad im sure plain ones.for lunch most of the time its chicken sandwich.for supper i eat alot of rice,chicken turkey,geen beans.i just boguht some weat free bread.im not sure if i can eat butter?but the health food store told me no dairy so i bought some non dairy milk.its really hard i have to bring my food with me now and not eat out like i use to.Also i was told pizza is out.since i cant eat wheat is there wheat free pasta?thanks for the welcome
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Hi Bo and welcome.
With salmon, turkey, chicken, rice, amaranth, quinoa and spelt product you are safe both as a secretor and as a nonnie, as with veggies and fruit, forgetting, bananas, tomatoes, potatoes, peppers, eggplants.
Be very careful with sugar or try  not to use it, but agave syrup and vegetal glicerine, if you have sugar problems, diabetes, a large belly or overweight to overcome. Dextrose,  Corn syrup, inverted sugar, maltodextrines in foods and beverages are to avoid checking the labels. Citric acid and ascorbic acid from corn (as in most commercial products can bother you if you are a nonnie.
If you'll be a nonnie you'll have again allowed bananas, tomatoes, peppers, eggplants and new entry lamb and scallops.
Soy  beans, tofu and tempeh are beneficial for secretors and neutral for nonnies. Soy milk is always to check for avoids; it should have in the ingredients just soy and perhaps calcium, or the alga Lithotamnium.
If  after a month or two of this diet you don't fell really better you should check with and health professional which problems bother you. Celiac disease  is far common and underdiagnosed could be the cause of your gut symptoms and the gluten free diet plus BTD should heal all very well.
best wishes Maria Giovanna


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thanksi find it odd though it says i can drink coffee but the thing is i cant.it sends me running to the bathroom i wonder why that one is wrong?
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Quoted from bo
thanksi find it odd though it says i can drink coffee but the thing is i cant.it sends me running to the bathroom i wonder why that one is wrong?


We are all individuals


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Quoted from Henriette_Bsec


We are all individuals


i guess your right i just thougt everything is the book was right but i gues a few things are not?anyway im wondering why all of you are on this diet?it is for bowel problems?weight problems?and did it help you at all?i really would like to hear anyone who had bowel problems and got better from it.how long did it take you to feel better?
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i was also wondering why they sell that blood test on this site to find your blood type but it wont tell you if your a non secretor  or a secretor?you think they would make a test you could do at home just like the one they sell here on the site that would tell this seeing you should know.
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if i had to guess i would say im a secretor as i know bananas, tomatoes i cant seem to eat.
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Bo- and other newbies- go to the top of the page and click on home- then click on blood type recipes-
here you will find many recipes that will help in making better food decisions.

Bo- oat flour- beneficial
     esense (or manna bread beneficial for you
     ezekial   neutral

Also go to the top click on NAP  type in secretor test in search and click.  They sell it for 47.95
         
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only specialized labs do secretor testing....
so it is not something that can be done at home like a simple blood test.


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bo
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thanks everyone here is very helpful.do all of you do the secretor testing done at the same place?i saw a link to a place and they send you something then you have to get your blood dran and then send it in?
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from personal experience, there are two ways to get your secretor status typed. The easier (and cheaper) way is to order the saliva test kit from NAP CLICK, unless you also want to find out your subtype and NN status...in that case, you'll have to get blood drawn from a doctor and order up a kit from Southwest College of Naturopathic Medicine CLICK, and this costs much more...


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bo
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thanks so much for letting me know about the saliva test kit do you have the link wheer i can order it from?do i have to send it in or is it a do it yourself?I see your a type A like me do you also have a weak tummy i was reading type A's have bad tummys is this true?
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ok i got the link for nap but that looks like a blood test is it?do i have to mail it in to get the results or is it a at home test?thanks so much for your help.i was reading on the site you have to wait for someone to contact you?how do they do this by phone or e mail?thanks
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