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Brian_Murphy
Thursday, July 6, 2006, 1:49am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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mlpaul-
I'd like to chime in regarding the sinus issues and your husbands cronic fatigue.  

I did some research awile back that led me to start using nasal saline to clean out the nasal passages.  This simple natural remedy has worked wonders.  Saline solution in the morning and evening to clean out the nasal passages combined with multiple hand washes per day.  Most people do not clean their hands multiple times per day and touch their nose (for whatever reason) which leads to infection.

Regarding your husband, have you researched anything regarding adrenal gland fatigue?  This sounds similar to your husbands symptoms?  

Does your husband consume coffee or other types of products that contain caffeine.  This can deplete the adrenal gland, calcium and cause other problems.

A good article to begin your research can be found at
http://www.drlam.com/A3R_brief_in_doc_format/adrenal_fatigue.cfm
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Brian - I've heard about using a saline solution for the sinuses.  It was recommended to spray it hard in one side and let it drain out the other.  I tried - it went straight down my throat  .  I will wash my hands more as I do touch my nose several times/day (it itches a lot and I sneeze quite often).  

I have not heard of adrenal gland fatique.  I will research this - THANK-YOU!  He does consume coffee and black tea - mainly decaf.  

I quickly skimmed thru the information on your link (I will read in more depth later - need to get some sleep) and was amazed at how many of these symptoms I have . . .

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Signs and Symptoms of Adrenal Fatigue


Tendency to gain weight and unable to loose it, especially around the waist.  [YES!!]
High frequency of getting the flu and other respiratory diseases and these symptoms  tend to last longer than usual.  [YES!!]
Tendency to tremble when under pressure.   [YES!!!  Never understood this.]
Reduced sex drive.  [Unfortunately, YES!!!]
Lightheaded when rising from a laying down position.   [YES!!! I even see stars frequently or "black-out"]
Unable to remember things.   [Unfortunately, this is setting in.]
Lack of energy in the mornings and also in the afternoon between 3 to 5 pm. [Yes!!!]
Feel  better suddenly for a brief period after a meal. [Yes - especially if I eat meat!]
Often feel tired  betweeen 9 - 10 pm, but resist going to bed. [Yes!!! - like now]
Need coffee or stimulants to get going in the morning. - NO
Crave for salty, fatty, and high protein food such as  meat and cheese. [Yes!!!]
Increase symptoms of PMS for women; period are heavy and then stop, or almost stopped on the 4th day, only to start flow again on the 5th or 6th day. [Yes!!! This is another thing I tried to explain to my doctor that I never understood.  Changed over the last year]
Pain in the upper back or neck with no apparent reasons .  [I have pain in lower back.  My husband has the upper back/neck pain]
Feels better when stress is relieved, such as on a vacation. [Somewhat, although I "work" during my vacation]
Difficulties  in getting up in the morning [Yes - recently]
Lightheaded [Yes!!!]

Other signs and symptoms include:

Mild depression  [Anxiety?]
Food and or inhalant allergies - NO
Lethargy and lack of energy [Yes!!!]
Increased effort to perform daily  tasks  [Sometimes]
Decreased ability to handle stress [Starting to get annoyed easily]
Dry and thin skin [Yes!!!]
Hypoglycemia [don't know]
Low Body Temperature [don't know]
Nervousness [Sometimes]
Palpitation [YES!!!]
Unexplained hair loss [My daughter has this]
Alternating constipation and diarrhea [Did for awhile]
Dyspepsia [don't know]

I will have to check into this for me as well.  It did say there were tests for this now.  Hopefully the BTD will work with this as well.

Thank-you again for the information.  This may explain a lot of the issues I've had lately with my health!  I'll run it by my new doctor.
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Congrats on finding out your blood type, mlpaul!

So, you have joined the ranks of "Os". Sometimes, I wish I was one. But then, we "As" are allowed wheat.  (Except I have to stay off it for awhile due to allergies.) Sigh.  

My doctors here in Tokyo told me that all adult pigs are "sick" when they go to slaughter. If you want to eat pork, they said go for the baby pig. Fortunately, as an A I do not have to make that decision. Apparently most adult hogs have some disease or another and some of these can be passed unto humans. (Anyway, this was a few years ago and I am not sure if I have all the copies of articles etc, the doctors passed out.) When I was pregnant I participated, like most moms to be, in prenatal classes. One was nutrition. Anyway, since many East Asians like pork, I thought this was interesting coming from a doctor.

As for cravings, yes they will come and go. In my case, more coming than going. Once every season I eat 100%beef hamburger and enjoy every minute of it!  I grew up on meat and sometimes that craving just comes. As for wheat, I agree, substitutions are the key. I make wheat-free cookies out of oatmeal, a little rye, dried fruites and nuts. You can check your foodlist and see what works. These cookies I sweeten and they really help when I crave cake, bread, etc.

As for going cold turkey. Your choice in the end. You get faster results when you do. I was just warning you about detox as some are not aware of this when they go on the diet. Trust your instincts.

I found Dr. D's books on allergies and fatigue very useful. He includes information on exercise for your blood type and week-by-week suggestions. It worked for me!

I bought a pot from my yoga teacher which I use to clean out my sinuses. For one liter of warm water I add 1 teaspoon of salt. Very easy to use and it did not feel uncomfortable. I feel this method is better and then buying saline solutions as it gets into spots the other did not. Alot of mucous came out. You can also purchase these pots on the internet. If you decide to get one, go for the stainless steel. But if you feel uncomfortable sticking a spout in your nose, try the saline solutions.

I miss gardening. I have only a little space in front of my home and most of my plants are potted. Better than nothing, I guess. Right now the hydrangeas are gorgeous here. Japanese love gardens and it is not uncommon to visit a park featuring a flower for a particular season. Walking underneath a canopy of cherry blossoms is so uplifting!



Out & About in Tokyo...
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Thank-you!  I found a stainless steel pot on-line and read about the procedure.  I will order one ASAP and try it!  Thank-you!
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Quick update . . . and more questions.   I have lost the 3 lbs I gained while on vacation ; although I have been feeling very nauseous, a bit shaky and VERY hungry (my stomach growls a lot).  I assume from other replys and posts I've read that this is due to detoxing - how long will this last?  I did go "cold turkey."  

I typed up the list of foods beneficial and neutral for O's and fit on one sheet of paper to take with me while shopping (I even added secretor and non-secretor beneficials/neutrals and then blacked out the block when it was an avoid for one type).  I found this very helpful!  My son wanted to know what the paper was, so I told him for the next week (actually longer, but can't tell him that right away) we were only going to eat foods from the list.  His remark - what can't we eat (bravo!); however, he found out quickly that two of his favorite foods (mango juice and kiwi) were not on the list.  He has also helped me to look at ingredients on packaging and comparing it to the list.  He loves challenges!

I read the section "Live Right for Type O - Lifestyle Strategies" in the LR4YT book and was AMAZED at how well I fit into the description!  This gave me a lot of insight into the root cause of all my stress - ME!  I am very impulsive - especially when I get bored, I try to tackle everything at once (I am a problem solver and won't stop until solved), I do make big decisions and spend money when under stress and definately have type A behavior - almost verbadum!  At first, I was shocked at how close this fit my personality, then scared to actually see it in black and white, and then it was like a light bulb went off!  I looked back at all that I've gone thru in the past few years and found out the problem was really with me and not others!  What an awakening!  

Still digesting all I've read and have enjoyed reading other threads/posts!  The information has been quite helpful!

Another question:  I came up with a gluten-free bread recipe last year and noticed that I was using potato starch flour along with many other flours.  I tried to replace with Spelt flour and, well, it was a disaster!  Since potatoes are an avoid for type O, I assume that that also includes potatoe flour???  If so, back to square one in finding a bread/cookie recipe!
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Hi Melanie,
Mango juice should be fine if your son is an O.  Many bread and cookie recipes are in the recipe file.  I've made a lot of cookies, bars and breads and they can be just as good as the old version.  I even made toll house cookies substuting 1/3 spelt, 1/3 oat flour and 1/3 ground almonds for the flour and they were great!  They spread out quite a bit but a guest at my house said they were better than the wheat flour version.  For a start make the chocolate chip oatmeal bars on the recipebase but omit the oatmeal and add some (maybe 1/2 cup) almond butter to the batter.  They are good and won't seem any different from regular bars.  


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substitute sweet pot flour when potato flour is called for.
http://www.elmercadogrande.com/hadecaspofl.html
in Mesa, AZ.
imported by: AMAZONAS IMPORTS, INC., Sun Valley, CA
http://www.amazonasnaturalfoods.com/
or:
http://www.barryfarm.com/flours.htm


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great link Don!
Carol will be happy to know this.....)


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Cheryl posted that link a long time ago.


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where is she, by the way?.......
haven t read her posts for sometime now, or her blogs for that matter......


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I have wondered the same thing.


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I have bought several flours today and printed out some recipes from this website.  I will play this weekend with some different kinds of breads and cookies.  

Karen - thank-you for the toll house cookie substitutions!  I bought some Almond Flour, which is finely ground almonds.  I'm very excited about this - THANK-YOU!  (this flour is very expensive, but may be worth it as I have gotten rid of all the "healthy junk food" that I had hidden in plastic containers - chips, cookies & crackers.  My kids open up the closet and shrug in disappointment as they have been craving snacks!).

Lola - I never thought of using sweet potatoe flour instead!  It should give it a sweeter taste (a big plus!).  I looked at the link you sent and it is very reasonably priced (as compared to what I've been paying for soy, brown rice, amarath, spelt, and oat flour).

Don, the "Whole Tuber Jerusalem Artichoke Flour, with Probiotic Factor " is expensive.  Can I make breads/cookies with this flour?  On the link, it looks like a supplement.  If I can use it for baking and had a small piece of bread every day, would it do the same thing as the probiotics I currently have stored in the refrigerator (in tablet/capsule form)?  Just wondering.  If so, it may be worth the cost as those are pretty expensive themselves!





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Another question. . . I got the "eat more meat (and protein)" for type O's; however, I'm not sure what to do for breakfast anymore.  My family has been VERY dependent on cereals (recently unprocessed ones from the health food store), milk, cheese, toast, grits, pancakes, potatoes and eggs.  I'm not quite sure what to give them.  We've tried fruit, but that makes them even more hungry.

I'm also concerned about eating sooo much meat.  Can too much meat actually turn against me (i.e. eating meat every day for dinner and lunch)?  Thanks!
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I have no idea how the Jerusalem Artichoke Flour could be used. I agree that it appears to be a supplement not a cooking flour. I also would expect the probiotics to be destroyed if used in any type of baking or other cooking methods.

My body tells me when I have had enough red meat and protein. I feel satisfied.

I am divorced and my two sons, now both teenagers, live with me every other week. They have been following the type O- secretor BTD only with the food they eat at my house for over 4 years. They have watched me eat dinner for breakfast for over 3 years. I say all that to tell you that I still have not gotten both of them to eat meat or any high protein foods for breakfast on a regular basis. My younger son will eat certain types of red meat occasionally for breakfast, but not all the time. Maybe if they lived with me all the time they would have made the transition by now, but I have my doubts. They still like cereal for breakfast. I know if I could get them to change their breakfasts it would help them greatly, probably even improve their grades at school.

You might also try offering more vegetables for breakfast like with omelets that are loaded with veggies or mashed sweet potatoes makes a great hot cereal. At least that would reduce their grain consumption, which is a step in the right direction.


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If you look in the LR4YT book it will list the frequencies and amounts of each type of food you should eat per week or day.  For an O secretor, you should eat 2-5 ounces of meat 7-11 times per week and 2-5 ounces of fish and shellfish 5-7 times per week.  Eggs should be eaten 3-6 times per week (and that's 1 egg).  
That's a lot of protein but that's how much an O should eat.  I think at least twice a day is the only way to get it all in.  
 


(just remembered, these numbers are for rh-, don't know if they're different for +)


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Quoted from mikendomsmum
If you look in the LR4YT book it will list the frequencies and amounts of each type of food you should eat per week or day.  For an O secretor, you should eat 2-5 ounces of meat 7-11 times per week and 2-5 ounces of fish and shellfish 5-7 times per week.

The frequency recommendations are even high if you are Rh- and/or a non-secretor.



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OK - I've tried to re-create some of the recipes I've found on this website - some worked, some didn't.  

The pancake recipe - worked well:  my daughter and husband ate  , my son said they "taste wierd  ."  I used 3/4 cup Spelt + 1/4 cup Almond Meal Flour for the 1-cup flour and added 1-tsp vanilla extract.  Close, but not there yet.  

The bread - I have not yet found a good substitute for the potatoe starch flour  .  Have tried white rice, brown rice, Almond Meal Flour, Oat Flour and Spelt Flour to no avail.  I did try one of the many Spelt Bread recipes on this website.  It's still in the bread machine rising.  So far, it's doing better than the one I've been using.

Cookies!!!    Thank-you so much for the toll house recipe substitutions!  I tried it using the "authentic Nestle Toll House Chocolate Chiop Cookie Recipe" found on-line thru a google search.  The first batch came out rather liquidy (as you mentioned), but tasted good.  I played around with it several times and found out that minimizing the amount of butter and adding a bit of baking powder helped A LOT!  Here is my modified recipe (my children now have a HUGE smile on their face as the pantry does not look that bare anymore ):

1-cup Spelt Flour
3/4 cup Oat Flour
1/2 cup Almond Meal Flour (finely ground blanched almonds)
1 tsp baking soda
1/4 tsp baking powder
1 tsp salt
1/2 cup butter
1/2 cup white sugar
1/2 cup brown sugar
1 tsp. vanilla extract
2 eggs
6-oz (1-cup) of chocolate chips (I used a bar of dark chocolate and cut it up)
Optional:  1-cup chopped nuts (the Almond Meal Flour gives it a sweet, nutty taste)

Combine all the dry ingredients and mix together until it represents ground corn meal.
Add eggs one at a time, beating well after each addition.
Mix in the vanilla extract and then the chocolate chips

Bake in a pre-heated 375 degree oven, on a lower rack (I found this to be VERY important to how the cookies would rise.  The higher the rack, the lower the rise).
Bake for 10-12 minutes, or until golden brown.

The cookies look wonderful when they come out and they do "drop" a little.  Will make soft, chewy cookies - not hard cookies.

Sooo glad I found something that works!!!  Thank-you for all your suggestions!
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Great job!  Thanks for posting the recipe for the cookies.  Just one thing about bread, you may have already read it somewhere.  Spelt flour needs very little mixing.  If I use my bread machine, I turn it off before it's done "kneading" the bread.  As soon as it's a smooth ball of dough, off goes the machine.  I add a bit more flour than the recipe calls for and add an egg if the recipe doesn't have one.  The finished product isn't as crumbly with the addition of an egg.  


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You might want to check your baking powder for avoid ingredients.

Remember that type O does better with very few grain servings a week. You might be better to focus your time on integrating beneficial foods, or at least neutral veggies, into your diet.

I thought the following might be helpful:
Quoted from Heidi
There seem to be phases people go through on each diet.

Say, phase 0 is when you're reading about it but haven't made any changes.

Phase 1 is the most difficult (and perhaps exciting) period, where you're trying it out and finding that it seems to be doing some good, but it's a hassle keeping one's food list around and it takes forever to read ALL those labels at the market, and avoiding avoids at parties & so forth.

Phase 2 comes into play when we get a little more sophisticated about substitutes. It's when we still haven't fully grokked the differences in food group proportion between what we used to eat and what our diet is trying to move us toward, so we get very skilled at substituting one ingredient for another, while missing some of the "grand plan" of the O diet. Don't get me wrong: I love bread, too, but if I set myself up as a home bread baker because I love it so much, I'm going to be eating significantly more than the one-to-six servings per week -- yep, per week -- allowed for Rh+ secretors (and way more than the zero-to-three servings permitted for nonsecretors). That's TOTAL grain servings, by the way.

What I'm trying to say is, the diet may not work real well for you as an O if your grain-love leads you off the portion-frequency path. and I hope you'll take those guidelines as means to move towards Phase 3 ~ where the food items and their frequencies and the proper exercise and stress-relief practices all come together into a lifestyle whole!



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Don My blood type is O + does that mean my rh is +  or is this something else I need to find out?
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Don My blood type is O + does that mean my rh is +  ...?

Yes, the positive refers to the Rh type, so O+ is type O Rh+.



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My focus on finding bread/cookie recipes that taste good stem from my children and husband's cravings.  Neither are very excited about this diet and are constantly making remarks about there not being any food around to eat.  My husband and daughter are NOT happy about eating so much meat.  I thought I would try to find some foods that they like that are better for them than what they are currently eating (lots of white flour and corn).  I taste them here and there, but do not eat much grains at all (like I use to).  

The BTD will have to gradually be phased in for them, or I will lose them completely and junk food will start coming into the house on a consistant basis (I've been throwing it away as it "trickles" in the house now).  If I can find recipes that satisfy their "bread/snacking" cravings, that taste good - in addition to all the fruits, vegetables and meats I have around, then I can slowly phase out the amount of breads/cookies until they are down to the recommended servings.  Thanks for the information though!  
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I hear ya Melanie.  I do the same thing.  Try Suzanne's Strawberry Bread sometime.  It's totally YUM.  The raspberry version is yum too.  Neither one are too sweet but you'll be wanting to freeze it in single portions because if you don't, you'll eat the whole thing.  


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Just a quick thought - I know that "O's" are to focus mainly on meat for it's protein and add vegetables and fruits to balance out the meal (this is strictly from my understanding of what I've read), and to severly limit wheat/grain products - all which I have done.  Your comments above got me to thinking - according to the chart I made (using the information in the LR4YT book on O's), Soy is an approved bean for nutritional purposes and Almonds are approved nuts.  I would assume that neither of these items when made as a "flour" would be considered as a grain.  If a bread was made with a very small amount of Spelt, Tapioca, Oat and/or Rice flour and more reliant on Soy Flour and/or Almond Meal Flour, then one could consume more "bread-type" foods than what is normally considered as a serving.  

OK - I'm being nit-picky.  That's my nature.  I find out where my limits are, and then push them as far as I can to give myself more "wiggle room."  Isn't that human nature?  I guess psychologically I won't feel as if I'm cheating (and will have to hear less complaining from my family, neighbor's children and relatives - who come by VERY OFTEN, which will, in turn, decrease my stress level ).
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