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mlpaul
Friday, June 30, 2006, 12:35pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I just found out about the BTD 2-weeks ago, have read ER4YT and am on LR4YT.  I have tried to find out my blood type and have gotten no support from the medical community where I live.  I'm amazed at how hard it is to find out one's blood type and no one has heard of any of the tests/terminology in these books.  Even a well known lab in my area has not heard of this.  They finally agreed to type me (I will only know my blood type - not anything else).  I've been to the hospital where my children were born, my OB doctor, my doctor, my husbands CFIDS/Gastro/Primary doctor and my children's doctor - with no answers/help - I get the same reaction - we don't do blood type or support the BTD!  Has anyone else encountered this?  What did you do?  
  I make a decent living, but my $ is being wasted on doctor's who can't help me or my family.  I have had chronic sinus infections/ear infections/inflammation and have been on antibitotics/anti-inflammatory medicines constantly for 3-yrs.  I don't want to take these and want natural remedies!  My husband has had Chronic Fatigue/Fibromalysia for 12-yrs and has chronic stomach problems/sleep problems/joint pain.  My two children (7 and 11) have chronic stomach problems and auto immune disorders.  This logic in his books makes sense to me (compared to all the other medical/diet/lifestyle books I've read over the past 10-yrs) and I want to begin it.  Any help/insight you have would be very much appreciated!
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Friday, June 30, 2006, 12:46pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Welcome, mlpaul!

You are at the right place so hang in there!!! Collective knowledge will answer your questions and steer you in the right direction.

Where do you live? You may be able to go to the Red Cross to get you blood typed, not sure on this one so help me out BTDers. I would think your family doctor would simply write an order for you to take to a local laboratory for a "type and cross". You mentioned you have children. There has to be a record somewhere of your blood type as it is critical in the delivery of your second child pertaining to Rh compatibility.

Good luck.

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Hi mlpaul, nice to meet you  

I'm really surprised at the medical community's reluctance to type your blood. It's vital information you need not only for the BTD, but in everyday life!

Their ignorance about secretor/MM/Lewis testing is ridiculous but unfortunately, all too true. My own doctor didn't know anything about secretor status. He was amused by my knowing I'm an O secretor and obviously thought it was irrelevant information. I'm gonna have to take in that copy of Eat Right I bought for him. *sigh* It gets old really fast when you have to educate your own physician!

If you want to have your husband and children typed, you can order blood typing kits from North American Pharmacal (NAP). If you look at the top of this page, you'll see some blue buttons; one is labelled 'NAP'. If you click on it, it will take you to the NAP Store where you can order one kit per person. It's not hard to type your own blood and the kits are fairly cheap.

Once you know your type you can get started on adding beneficial foods to your diet and removing avoids. The same applies to your family once they know their types also.

Hang in there--you're on your way to bringing health to yourself and your family. Take it one step at a time and remember to breathe.

Welcome to the board! I look forward to your posts.


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njdiva's right--the Red Cross should notify you of your type if you donate and ask them to tell you. That's how I found out I'm an O+.


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I just found out about the BTD 2-weeks ago, have read ER4YT and am on LR4YT.  I have tried to find out my blood type and have gotten no support from the medical community where I live.  I'm amazed at how hard it is to find out one's blood type and no one has heard of any of the tests/terminology in these books.

Definitely the thing for you to do is to go to your local/regional blood bank (which is NOT the Red Cross in all regions, it could be some other organization where you live, you can easily find out in the local yellow pages under "Blood Bank", I think) and donate whole blood.  You don't need to bring any sort of referral from a doctor or anything, just yourself and your I.D.  They will type your blood before you donate for ABO and Rh (not secretor status, though).  They will also run a bunch of other screening tests on your blood for everything from HIV to West Nile Virus to Hepatitis to CMV-status, etc.  They will test your total cholesterol level, too (not the HDL:LDL ratio, though).  All of this is totally free and you probably will be saving several lives at the same time.  They will probably even give you a T-shirt when all is said and done!


Welcome to the BTD!  


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I have had chronic sinus infections/ear infections/inflammation and have been on antibitotics/anti-inflammatory medicines constantly for 3-yrs.  I don't want to take these and want natural remedies!  My husband has had Chronic Fatigue/Fibromalysia for 12-yrs and has chronic stomach problems/sleep problems/joint pain.  My two children (7 and 11) have chronic stomach problems and auto immune disorders.  This logic in his books makes sense to me (compared to all the other medical/diet/lifestyle books I've read over the past 10-yrs) and I want to begin it.  Any help/insight you have would be very much appreciated!

p.s.  omg, mlpaul, this is DEFINITELY the right diet for you and your family.  You are in the right place.  It sounds like you are close to a point of feeling very desperate, but please know that you are, right now, in "the darkness before the dawn", because you've found a diet that is going to help all of the above-listed health challenges, truly.  Just do get ye to your local blood bank, donate blood, and you will be typed there for free.  No prob!



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I contacted the Red Cross and they said I have to donate blood to find out what my type is.  I was told by my doctor in the past not to donate blood as I am anemic, have low blood pressure (avg. 100/65) and low cholesterol.  I had four tubes drawn several months ago and it took quite awhile to recover!  

I should find out soon what my blood type is from the test I did yesterday.  I will order the secretor test as they would not do that.  How can I get the Urinary Indican test done?  Neither my doctor or LabCorp will do this test (they don't even know what it is!).  

How do I find out the =/- status?  Is the Rh status necessary if I know I will not have more children?  Is it worth it for me to purchase the blood test on this website know that I have gotten LabCorp (reluctantly) to do a basic type on me?  I'm not sure what other information this test will show other than what type I am.
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I've been looking at the other posts - What is a "nonnie"?
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I live between Durham, Chapel Hill, and Cary NC (known as RTP).  This has been termed "the medical capital of the US" at least around here!  There are medical emporiums at almost every corner!  I guess that is in reference to conventional medicine, which from what I have learned recently is much different than alternative medicine (a bad word around here).
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I contacted the Red Cross and they said I have to donate blood to find out what my type is.  I was told by my doctor in the past not to donate blood as I am anemic, have low blood pressure (avg. 100/65) and low cholesterol.  I had four tubes drawn several months ago and it took quite awhile to recover!  

I should find out soon what my blood type is from the test I did yesterday.  I will order the secretor test as they would not do that.  How can I get the Urinary Indican test done?  Neither my doctor or LabCorp will do this test (they don't even know what it is!).  

How do I find out the =/- status?  Is the Rh status necessary if I know I will not have more children?  Is it worth it for me to purchase the blood test on this website know that I have gotten LabCorp (reluctantly) to do a basic type on me?  I'm not sure what other information this test will show other than what type I am.

Hi again (not sure if you saw my two posts above yours, as you posted at about the same time, so you may not have seen them, so check them out first, as then the following might make more sense).  About being anemic, not sure about your specific situation, but if you mean that your iron was low, that can change/vary, so one day you could be rejected as a donor, another day your iron could be fine and you would be accepted.  The thing is, the blood bank does a whole battery of screening on you, including a very brief check-up, in order not just to ensure the safety of the blood supply, but to ensure the safety of the donor.  If for any reason it would be even a possibility of being dangerous for you to give blood, you would be what is called "deferred", as in, told you could not donate on that day.  Depending on the situation, it could either be a temporary deferral or a permanent deferral.  So, in other words, if you decide in future that you would like to try to donate blood, I say go for it, as if there is ANY reason you should not, you will be screened out before donating, after they ask you a MILLION questions, take a finger-stick of your blood to test your iron, and do a little check-up on you (blood pressure, temp., etc.).  Don't know if your doctor meant don't try to donate right at that time, or ever.  But I'm saying that it could not hurt to give it a try, as the blood bank will NOT proceed if it is contraindicated in ANY way, trust me (I work at a blood bank!  however, I'm just an admin. asst., I don't have medical training, so take me with several grains of salt).

So, LabCorp (boo, hiss, not a fan of that company) is going to test your ABO status, and that will be fine.  I think when they do that, they will also test your Rhesus (+/-) status.  It doesn't have a big impact on this diet at all, but there are a few foods where you will notice a little note about a food's status being slightly different for Rhesus pos or neg people.  Nothing major, though.  But I think Labcorp will test for both ABO and Rhesus at the same time...if not, that is REALLY wack of them, I mean, why not go for the gusto while they are doing it?  Geez.  Speaking of which...

It is such a shame how hard it is to find out the basic and important information of one's blood type these days!!!!  When I was a baby in 1961, or perhaps a small tot at the pediatrician later, they tested mine as a matter of course.  I still have a little, paper card in my wallet from the pediatrician, stating my O+ status.  But nowadays they act like you are crazy if you show an interest in learning your blood type.  What is that about?  Weird.


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I've been looking at the other posts - What is a "nonnie"?

Sorry, I shouldn't use slang like that with a new person.  Hey, it's Friday.  A nonnie is short for a "non-secretor".  You can either be a secretor, or a non-secretor.  Most people are secretors, and the basic, original diet of ER4YT was mainly geared to them, since they are the majority.  In later books, however, Dr. D. refined and customized the diet even more so that non-secretors within each ABO type had an individualized program and so did secretors within each type.  Secretor status does impact to a significant degree on this diet.  HOWEVER, don't panic, because if you don't know your secretor status right away, that is not a huge deal.  I didn't know mine for several YEARS into the diet (the newer books weren't even out yet with the refinements anyway *lol*).  It will be enough of a first step for you (and hopefully your family!) to get on the basic diet in ER4YT or, if you go by LR4YT, follow the secretor recommendations because most people are secretors.  Typebase4 on this site has the latest food values.  Again, if you don't know your secretor status, start by following the secretor guidelines.  You will probably notice remarkable improvement in your health challenges starting to happen immediately.  Just keep it going and, if things level off at any point, and you still don't know your secretor status, you could try the non-secretor refinements and see if that kicks it into high gear.  However, you will want to order the secretor test and find out one way or another at some point.  There is no big rush though and no need to feel overwhelmed or like there are all these tests you have to take and things you have to find out.  You have enough to deal with right now with LabCorp (!), finding out your type, learning the basic diet, etc.  One step at a time.

Nonnie, OUT!



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One more question . . . does anyone have experience with Collinsonia (or stone root)?  Dr. D'Adamo states in ER4YT under Ear Infections, that "Echinacea" may help ear infections and "that the herb collinsonia (stone root) . . . helps sinusities . . . with astounting results"  He states "Many of these patients no longer need antibiotics to treat their infections because the collinsonia removed the cause of the problem - swelling of the sinus tissue" and "No need to worry about toxicity; this is a safe herb."  When I mentioned this to my doctor, she had never heard of this and told me to be very careful with natural remedies.

I have purchased Echinacea root "echinacea purpurea" mfg by Herb Pharm, and have ordered the stone root thru them (I hope to receive next week).  I had a cat scan of my sinuses and they found a deviated septum, smaller than normal sinus cavities, and a curve in my sinuses on one side that was larger than normal, making it hard for fluid to drain.  They recommended sinus surgery, which from what I've learned, I'm completely against!  I tried to go without antibiotics for 3-mo (with a sinus and double ear infection) and last week went back on antibiotics as my head and ears were in more pain than I could tolerate and my doctor said it was imperative that I start ASAP.  

Does anyone have experience with these two natural remedies?  What are the pros and cons?  I want to start, but my doctor has put fear in me to be very careful.  I'm a problem solver and want to begin ASAP.
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P.S.  DUH--after I said all that about secretor status, I forgot to tell you what it IS!  Hello.  Secretor status refers to whether you do or don't secrete your ABO blood type antigen into your bodily secretions like tears, sweat, and saliva.  If you DO (which is most people), you are a secretor, and you have a bit more protection from foreign invaders "at the gate", as your antigens are there standing gaurd.  If you don't (which would make you a non-secretor), you are susceptible to certain health challenges (like inflamatory diseases such as fibromyalgia) and you ideally would be stricter about certain items in the diet, such as and specifically GRAINS.  Grains and nonnies do not get along too well, sadly.  Even the compliant (allowable) ones give many of us problems.

Anyway, that's secretor status in a nutshell.


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One more question . . . does anyone have experience with Collinsonia (or stone root)?  Dr. D'Adamo states in ER4YT under Ear Infections, that "Echinacea" may help ear infections and "that the herb collinsonia (stone root) . . . helps sinusities . . . with astounting results"  He states "Many of these patients no longer need antibiotics to treat their infections because the collinsonia removed the cause of the problem - swelling of the sinus tissue" and "No need to worry about toxicity; this is a safe herb."  When I mentioned this to my doctor, she had never heard of this and told me to be very careful with natural remedies.

Me again (if you can believe it and stand it).  I don't have experience with collinsonia, but I sure have experience with sinus/ENT issues, and with this diet.  I'll let someone else speak to the question about Collinsonia but I want to assure you of one thing:  just cutting out WHEAT alone will help your sinus issues tremendously if you are blood type O.  And it will help also if you are blood type A (O's and wheat, however, are mortal enemies, if you are an O, you want to get off wheat immediately if at all possible).  Wheat is very inflammatory, especially to O's, and so once you stop ingesting it, you will be AMAZED at the effect on your sinuses, ears, etc.  Seriously.  Amazed.



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Thank-you for all your help!  I have learned about the secretor status thru his book - and have tried to explain this to several people and doctors (I feel like a doctor right about now with all this terminology).  Yes, it is sad to have to education your physician.  I just wish I could find one that is at least half interested in what I'm doing - or at least positively supports me!  I'm trying to get my health back - isn't that their goal?  Ok, so it means less visits to their practice which may cut into their revenues (I feel like I've helped to support their move to a much nicer practice!).  Maybe they need to revisit why they became physicians (other than for the money).  

OK - enough doctor bashing. . . I will take your advise and contact the blood bank.  LabCorp did give me their number yesterday.  I would very much like to donate blood.  I will trust that they will not take blood if it will hurt me!  Thank-you again for all the information!
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mlpaul--I'd say at this point, until you know what your blood type is, use just the Collinsonia and set the Echinacea aside for the moment. If you are an O, Echinacea is not so good for you. Os tend to have overactive immune systems as it is, and adding an immune enhancer like Echinacea can cause more problems than solve them. Collinsonia on the other hand, is okay. It does work very well--I've been using it for chronic sinusitis and allergies for a few months now and it's great stuff, very gentle and effective.

You might also look into nettle leaf. I've found nettle to be an excellent herb for relieving allergies and sinusitis. It works well with Collinsonia.

Hang in there, be gentle with yourself, and remember to breathe. One step at a time. We'll be here to help you with whatever we can offer in the way of knowledge and encouragement. Many of us have been where you are now, so take heart.


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I've seen the wheat connection in my children and husband.  They tested positive for wheat sensitivity during allergy testing.  For a few months, I eliminated all wheat from their diets and made my own gluten-free bread (I experimented until I found one that they would eat).  They did great on this, but had a hard time staying away from the normal taste/feel of regular bread (my bread had a cake-like taste that did not work very well with sandwiches).  Recently, I have been purchasing spelt bread, which has really helped their stomach pains!  The brand I use looks and tastes like normal sandwich bread (but is VERY expensive - I'm trying to concoct my own version to save money).  They use to be doubled over in pain and now only have bouts of stomach pain (mainly when they eat at a friends or relatives house).  

My husband followed a wheat free diet years ago upon the recommendation of his CFIDS doctor.  He did well on it, but couldn't follow it for long.  He is of Middle-Eastern decent and craves pita bread!  If I can create a spelt bread that works, I will work on a Pita bread recipe They also appear to be sensitive to Dairy products.  This has been harder to cut back on, but working on it.  My husband thinks he is a type O (his mom and dad are a type O).  I think I might be a type A - they mentioned it to me when I was pregnant with my son, but that was 11-yrs ago and I can't say for sure that is correct (and my OB practice is no longer in existence).  I'm adopted, so I don't have any medical history.  Not sure what my kids would be with parents of two different blood types, but my son seems to follow type O from what I've read (he loves meat and does not do good on wheat/dairy and is VERY active - loves sports!).  My daugther on the other hand is a starch fanatic and hates meat - she tolerates vegetables and fruit.  She loves swimming and does Yoga with me.  Is it possible to have children with two different blood types?  I guess we will find out soon!
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Thank-you for all your help!  I have learned about the secretor status thru his book - and have tried to explain this to several people and doctors (I feel like a doctor right about now with all this terminology).  Yes, it is sad to have to educate your physician.  I just wish I could find one that is at least half interested in what I'm doing - or at least positively supports me!  I'm trying to get my health back - isn't that their goal?  Ok, so it means less visits to their practice which may cut into their revenues (I feel like I've helped to support their move to a much nicer practice!).  Maybe they need to revisit why they became physicians (other than for the money).

You know what I like about you so much already, mlpaul?  You are a person who is empowering yourself about your own health care.  You are approaching the system with a critical eye and if something doesn't seem right, you question it.  You are also looking into alternatives that make sense to you.  I think that with that kind of approach, you are on the right track, and I KNOW you have found the right diet.  I just can't say enough about the BTD and I always fear that it sounds like I'm gushing but there are not enough superlatives, truly.  And especially for the types of issues you mention, such as sinus problems (I feel your pain!!!!!!!!), this diet will work wonders.  I can't wait to find out your blood type.  If you are an O and you ditch the wheat, the results from that alone will amaze you.


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I've seen the wheat connection in my children and husband.  They tested positive for wheat sensitivity during allergy testing.  For a few months, I eliminated all wheat from their diets and made my own gluten-free bread (I experimented until I found one that they would eat).  They did great on this, but had a hard time staying away from the normal taste/feel of regular bread (my bread had a cake-like taste that did not work very well with sandwiches).

Ah, you are a baker!  This will be an amazing talent/skill to possess if you are an and/or if any of your family members are O's, as you can bake your own compliant (allowable) breads!  One note about spelt:  if it turns out that anyone in your family is a non-secretor, spelt is an avoid for them.  You might try experimenting with other wheat-free bread alternatives, such as quinoa, rye or rice.  Also, most health foods stores (often abbreviated down to HFS around these parts!) have breads in their freezer section, such as 100% rye.  These are great for sandwiches.  Recently, I discovered that rice cakes are good for sandwiches, too!  But kids might not take to that, as one has to be pretty determined *lol*.  I'd go with the 100% rye myself (French Meadows makes a great one...but BEWARE of their "rice" bread, it contains wheat.)
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I'm adopted, so I don't have any medical history.

The plot thickens!  Wow.  Well, you do have your lifelong medical history, even though you don't have those of your parents'.  That's a solid foundation to go from.
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Not sure what my kids would be with parents of two different blood types, but my son seems to follow type O from what I've read (he loves meat and does not do good on wheat/dairy and is VERY active - loves sports!).  My daugther on the other hand is a starch fanatic and hates meat - she tolerates vegetables and fruit.  She loves swimming and does Yoga with me.  Is it possible to have children with two different blood types?

Yes, your kids could be two different blood types if the parents are two different blood types.  In fact, in one example, even if both parents are the same type--AB's, the kids could still come out as AB's, A's, or B's.  Keeps things interesting.



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Hi mlpaul,

you do pose some rather unique challenges ... re anemia - did your medical practitioner say what was the cause of this ... usually it is an iron deficiency, but other things can be the problem ... eg. low chlorophyll intake, or low zinc levels, or low vitamin B12; etc ...  hormones, genetics ... to me it seems weird to have to recover from a small amount of blood drawn for testing ....

many of the above things I mentioned can be handled by some (not all) alternate medical approaches, but these are typically not handled by usual orthodox approaches.  In some instances, orthodoxy is fine ... your particular set of doctors seem only set in handling only a number of treatable conditions.  Maybe a good diagnostic service (like the Mayo Center) can provide you with some of the basics into your problems.  There are other 'alternate' diagnostic services too ... like hair-mineral analysis ... and parasites in stools from Great Smokies Labs that can be a good indicator ...  There are different approaches that may assist you in a more complete recovery ... eg. linking TCM (traditional Chinese medicine) with BTD (blood type diet).

Right now though the main task is to start .............

good luck - you've picked a real winner in BTD -

John


“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius

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Kyosha Nim - I enjoy cooking - it relaxes me, and I enjoy solving problems and "playing around" with food to find out what works and what doesn't (especially with finding out ways to "sneak" vegetables and other beneficial items into favorite foods without altering the taste too much).  Since my husband and children are not too keen on my turn to organic foods, gluten-free breads and un-processed foods, I have had to get them acclimated to certain foods by slowly introducing it into their meals until they acquire a taste for it.  The biggest help I had was cleaning out my fridge and pantry (yes, I threw away and donated A LOT of food), putting the new foods in plastic lock-n-lock containers (so they could not see the boxes) - many natural and organic foods "look" similar to their favorite junk foods.  If they were hungry and wanted to "snack," the only choice they had was to pick from what was in the pantry.  It's amazing what one will eat when they are hungry and have their choices limited.  Not wanting to "punish" them, I told them that junk food was not allowed in the house and I would treat them occassionally when we were out to ice cream, fast food, snacks, etc.  They liked this idea as during the first couple months I would take them 1 - 2x/wk to a nice restaurant and we would order - JUST DESSERT!  I have only done this for one year now and found out that their bodies quickly acclimate to the "good" food we have at home and they quickly feel bad after eating outside the house ( a silent YEAH!!! - can't gloat too much in front of them or they will rebel!  Got to empower them and make them feel as if they are in control, which they are for the most part - now).  I also make it fun for them as they help me with the cooking and baking and I let them pick out a recipe they like and we try to find out how to make it with what's available at home.  They LOVE challenges!

(a side note. . . my son made the comment at the beginning - "why do we have to eat organic and natural foods?  Look at people a long time ago.  They ate normal foods and did not have any problems."  Both my husband and I had a puzzled look as we explained to him that there were no processed foods a long time ago - it was all organic and natural!)

I guess I will have to do this again once I find out what our blood types are - going back thru my pantry and fridge!  Not sure how they will react this time as they are still adjusting to the organic and unprocessed foods.
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Wow.  The more you write, the more impressed I am.  I only wish my sister would have anything close to your approach to feeding her own kids.  Anything even remotely close to even one tiny aspect of all that you said in your post above.  Your kids are blessed, that's all I'll say on that one.  I think your approach to, and attitude towards, food/diet in your household is very wise.


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mlpaul,
welcome!)
get acquainted with the forum and all features
of this website.
once you get your test done and you know what blood type you are then you can go to the top of the page and click on member centre (on the top right hand side of this page) and get yourself a nice avatar (located on the left) then we can all see what blood type you are and you won't have to type it each time you post.
-if you want to add information below your avatar setting, such as Rh +/-, by going to the Profile Information section in the Member Center and typing in the Personal Message box.  You can also create a Signature of any other information you want to share that will go at the bottom of every message you post.
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mlpaul, please do not try to make rye bread until you find out that non of your family is of the B blood type. If they are it is a major avoid. When you know the blood types you can check out the status of various foods on typebase(third blue button from the left at the top of the page). They also often have recipes attached.
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those stomach pains you mention which your kids are experiencing might be signs of celiac issues, also..........

dairy is also difficult to handle, specially if you have sinus issues.....


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