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Drea
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Have you given stevia, vegetable glycerine or xylitol a try?


Agave nectar is also good; sweet without a glycemic index spike.


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I've found a really nice breakfast cereal at a new english HFS, calls itself 'Gluten free muesli'.
I wasn't happy about my other one as it was not really totally compliant - this one is much closer.
Ingrediants:
rice flakes, sultanas, roast buckwheat, millet flakes, raisins, chopped dates, sunflower seeds, currants, roasted hazelnuts, flaked almonds and cashew nuts (avoid but how many can you get in one serving?)

I'm really enjoying it!!!



Hi Janet,

I was looking over the ingredients of the cereal you buy at your English HFS, I noticed that many of these items can be found in the bulk foods section of American HFS's, Whole Foods, or co-ops. You could try mixing various grains, nuts, seeds, and dried fruits together and come up with your own compliant version of a muesli minus the cashews.

Alia


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Agave nectar is also good; sweet without a glycemic index spike.


oh yes, forgot that one. I think it was bothering me, so stopped using it. actually I think I need to give it all up right now, as I think i'm having candida probs.       but yes, lots say they use agave w/ much success and the glycemic thing is why I started using it. will try it again later.



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Thanks for the info on Splenda.  I will do more research  on this and see what we discover.  I've always heard that Stevia is a good sweetener but have never tried it.
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Hi Janet,

I was looking over the ingredients of the cereal you buy at your English HFS, I noticed that many of these items can be found in the bulk foods section of American HFS's, Whole Foods, or co-ops. You could try mixing various grains, nuts, seeds, and dried fruits together and come up with your own compliant version of a muesli minus the cashews.

Alia



Thanks Alia...that's also an idea but so far I think I've spotted one cashew!!  




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Splenda is nothing more than chlorinated sugar. From what I gather anyway. Haven't read any of the articles ABJoe posted, but from the research I've done, won't touch the stuff. Lets just say WF doesn't carry anything w/ that in it. Nor aspartame. Have you given stevia, vegetable glycerine or xylitol a try?
On that desert, I had a bit today during the day. It is sooooooooo good. Sorta sweet, sorta tart, right up my alley!!


I clearly have not done my homework on Splenda. I did some reading this morning and found that it isn't natural at all. The sugar molecules have been replaced with chlorine atoms (I won't even pretend to understand that!) so that the product does not remain in the body. The manufacturers state that approx. 15% remains in the body, but I guess I would ask 15% of what remains in the body?? Sucralose is quickly excreted through the kidneys. One good thing about it is that it does not cross the blood/brain barrier as aspartame does. I like the sound of Stevia because it is an herb. I have not tried it but will do that. I actually don't use a lot of sweeteners except in baked goods and in my yummy strawberry tofu shake. I don't use it in coffee, tea or cereal. However, Clay loves the sweets. He sweetens everything. Does anyone know if Stevia impacts blood sugar the same way as regular sugar? I'm not familiar with xylitol but will do some reading on that as well. Is it a sugar alcohol? It seems I have much to learn about this topic. I must admit it can be confusing!

Thanks to all for the tips and input.
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I found some interesting reading on xylitol. You can go to this site to read all about it. Sounds good!

http://www.laleva.cc/food/xylitol.html


Wanted to make an addition to this post. I don't want to change the course of this thread, but since we got off on discussing sweeteners . . .

I just read the ingredients on the Splenda bag and the first one is maltodextrin. That is a no-no for my Type O hubby. Seems it is made from corn starch which is an avoid. That fact alone makes it off limits and it is a goner in our home!

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Diann, from what I understand, yes xylitol is a sugar alcohol and is why it gives some people gas. I think I will be switching to something else, as it makes me feel strange. That's not to say it will do you or hubby that way, you'll just have to try it out if you decide to go that route. Has to be better than Sucralose or Aspartame tho!! As for it being okay to use, I understand it is, but just as some foods affect each person dif, so does this seem to.
From what I understand, stevia will not cause sugar spikes. In fact is said to even out sugar levels.



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Diann, from what I understand, yes xylitol is a sugar alcohol and is why it gives some people gas. I think I will be switching to something else, as it makes me feel strange. That's not to say it will do you or hubby that way, you'll just have to try it out if you decide to go that route. Has to be better than Sucralose or Aspartame tho!! As for it being okay to use, I understand it is, but just as some foods affect each person dif, so does this seem to.
From what I understand, stevia will not cause sugar spikes. In fact is said to even out sugar levels.


Thanks for the info. I have tried several sugar alcohols and find they don't work well for me. As soon as I can get back to the health food store in the next town (we don't have much here!) I will get some Stevia. That is probably the best route for us to go. I called Clay and told him not to drink the green tea I made for him today. Ha Ha He was going to make a stop and see if he can find some unsweetened green tea in a bottle to have today on his route. He has a long day, so he will definitely be in need of that tea! The Splenda might be the thing that has been causing his digestive upset. He has had a perpetual problem with indigestion, GERD, and hiccups when he eats. I guess we will know in a few days if that is the culprit.
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The Splenda might be the thing that has been causing his digestive upset. He has had a perpetual problem with indigestion, GERD, and hiccups when he eats. I guess we will know in a few days if that is the culprit.


Please let us know if it is the 'culprit'. Wouldn't that be interesting.  Also when you get some Stevia and try it, let us know what you think ok?



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Perhaps you can get a small container or sample package. I didn't do that, but bought a huge box of it instead because it was on sale at WF...only to find out that I really don't like the taste. A waste, really.


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Perhaps you can get a small container or sample package. I didn't do that, but bought a huge box of it instead because it was on sale at WF...only to find out that I really don't like the taste. A waste, really.


That sounds like a good idea.  I've never tried it, so don't know anything about the taste.  Was it  really strong?   It is so hard trying to decide on sweeteners with a diabetic in the house.  
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I play it safe and only use vegetable glycerin rather than the other alternatives.
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I just didn't like the after taste. And yes, it can be strong or not so strong, depending on the format you buy it in (meaning: liquid, powder, or leaf). I bought the powder form that had extra fiber in each serving, because at the time I thought I needed extra fiber.

For me, agave nectar, veg gly, and blackstrap molasses are the sweeteners of my choice; but I am not a diabetic, though I do tend to follow the guidelines set forth in the Diabetes Health Series Book.


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Perhaps you can get a small container or sample package. I didn't do that, but bought a huge box of it instead because it was on sale at WF...only to find out that I really don't like the taste. A waste, really.


Drea, you can take that stevia or whatever it was, back to WF  for a refund, even w/o a receipt. If you have no receipt, they'll just give you store credit. Unless you used like the whole package.    
Anyway, this is one of the things I really love about WF. You are never 'stuck' w/ anything. Even if you buy fruit and it goes bad in a day or 2 or is really nasty when you go to eat it. Just return it. They are the most return friendly store to which I've ever been. As it should be.  



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I actually gave it away to some friends who eat too much Splenda in hopes that they would convert. Then I moved out of their state. I don't know if they ever even tried it...but that's good to know about WF. I guess there is a silver lining inside their exorbitant pricing.


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I guess there is a silver lining inside their exorbitant pricing.


yes, and that is exactly why I never feel guilty about returning anything.  



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a bowl of special K with soy milk, a reeses pb cup, a vege wrap with feta, 4 boxes of halloween size nerds, pizza (cheese only, moz.) some more halloween candy and a beer..... Need help sticking to the diet!
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a bowl of special K with soy milk, a reeses pb cup, a vege wrap with feta, 4 boxes of halloween size nerds, pizza (cheese only, moz.) some more halloween candy and a beer..... Need help sticking to the diet!


You're just a hoot!!   You provided me with a much-needed good laugh today.   Just hang in there.  Keep reading and educating yourself and it does get easier, at least most days!!  
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Breakfast
small soy yoghurt with corn flakes, black strap molass, pumpkin seeds, lecithin; a rice cake with tahin: Green tea

Lunch
noodles with mushrooms, ghee and a little parmesan (small avoid !)
Salmon and raw veggie salad and some  grapes. green tea

Dinner
rice stir fried with peas, ghee, tamari, parsley and onion; a boiled egg with green caulflower and cannellini beans a 'pear and a squeezed grapefruit

enjoy your food ! Maria Giovanna


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B'fst: sauteed broccoli and beet greens, turkey bacon, coffee with soy milk
Snack: pineapple chunks and walnuts
Lunch: tuna salad with lots of celery and green onion, compliant homemade mayo over large pile of romaine lettuce.
Snack: whole milk yogurt with peanuts and blackstrap molasses
Dinner: not sure yet, but here's what I have planned...carrot/apple/ginger/beet juice (freshly made), and cream of buckwheat cereal, and a glass of red wine.

80 ounces of water sipped throughout the day.


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Please let us know if it is the 'culprit'. Wouldn't that be interesting. Also when you get some Stevia and try it, let us know what you think ok?


We bought some liquid Stevia and have been using it to sweeten tea. I also used some in a slaw salad I made for Clay. Anyway, I noticed that for the two meals he ate at home today, he has not had hiccups or indigestion. It might be a little early to say for sure about the use of Splenda causing this problem, but it is looking like it might be the culprit. I'm sure he will be posting results in the days ahead. Neither of us noticed the absence of his hiccups until later in the day. I called him and asked him about it and we had a good laugh over it. There are some things that you just don't miss when they are gone! I'm sure he will post under testimonials later when he is more certain of the results.

As for the taste of Stevia, he says it is fine with him. I ate some pumpkin that had been sweetened with stevia and didn't notice anything different. Tasted fine to me. We have several stores that carry it - a health food store, Kroger, and Walmart. There does seem to be some variety in Stevia products. I noticed one company online that had stevia added to a bunch of ingredients. That's not what we bought. I would like to try the stevia powder sometime. All we have used so far is the liquid stevia. We give it a good thumbs up!

In keeping with this thread here are my foods for today:

Breakfast: warm lemon water before food.
Scrambled Eggs with soy milk added, cooked in ghee
1 slice Ezekiel Bread with ghee
                  Black coffee (I'm getting used to not using cream)

Snack: 4 oz. grapefruit juice

Lunch: Salmon steak
Steamed Carrots
Collard Greens
Pinto Beans  (I'm addicted to pinto beans!!)
Fresh pumpkin cooked in ghee with stevia
              Water

Snack: Fresh pineapple pieces

Will probably go light for supper. That's a big meal for lunch today.


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