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I love the new ideas I learn from you guys.  I have never thought of a grain free life.  And surely I have never thought of Seaweed Flakes.  

I welcome, Veron, also.  This is a wonderful place that makes me really think about what I am putting in my body.

Question:  Is Ezkiel bread a sprouted bread?


Grain-free for an O is not a bad thing!

And regarding Ezekial bread, it is a sprouted bread.  Some people do fine on it, and others, including myself, do not.  For me, it's a matter of the gluten.  I just don't eat it.



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Wheat causes me to stop weight loss, get stuffed up, can cause killer headaches - feeling like poison flowing to my brain, makes me not able to concentrate, foggy thinking, and my gums really hurt whenever I have it. And I think it causes me to get acne and ezima on my scalp. Why did I ever start eating it again given all that it does to me - I think because it's addicting!! And it's so hard when everywhere you look whole wheat is promoted as this great health food. But I don't think wheat is a beneficial for any of the blood types is it? Maybe at best it's neutral for A's or AB's - but definately not for us O's.


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Jordan Alexandra - born 5/12/08
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Speaking of wheat as an avoid for O's and being probably the biggest avoid for us - for the rest of you O's what would be your other top avoids - I'm sure this has been discussed before - but for me my top 3 avoids would be wheat, dairy and corn - all of which can be hidden in so many things!!  Would you add other avoids that top your lists?  


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Here is my wheat report for today.  I took a homemade lasagne to work today.  I had convinced myself that "a little bit of pasta" would be okay.  Well...............  about 30 minutes after lunch I was in a coma.  It was awful.  I should have known better, but it "sounded" so good.  Thank goodness there was a co-worker who ate the rest, because, even though it was bad for me, all I could think of was finishing it off.  It is like a monster craving.

And while we are at it, on a different subject, what is an egg wash?  Is it just egg and water?


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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I found some brown rice lasagna noodles and plan to use them next week.  Oddly enough, they were at the regular grocery store.  There are tons of wheat-free alternatives out there for those special occasions.  
I haven't tried spelt yet but I'm going to, also next week, Jills spelt pie crust.


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Quoted from mhameline
Speaking of wheat as an avoid for O's and being probably the biggest avoid for us - for the rest of you O's what would be your other top avoids - I'm sure this has been discussed before - but for me my top 3 avoids would be wheat, dairy and corn - all of which can be hidden in so many things!! Would you add other avoids that top your lists?


Those are my top three, and the most addictive for me. I'm past the wheat addiction on account of being celiac, but corn and milk are sooo addictive to me, I can't "just have a tiny little taste" without craving it for a week or more afterwards.

I was thinking along those same lines, because some of the reactions people have described for wheat are the same reactions I have to corn and dairy.

A rung down on my superavoid list would be soy and sugar.  


Type O+ blogger, secretor afterall. Gluten intolerant. With two gluten intolerant sons:  A+ Secretor 10 yo (also fructose intolerant and slightly egg allergic), and  O- 7yo.

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Oh yeah - soy is also a big avoid for me since it causes big problems with my periods - but that one's an easy one for me to avoid since I was never big on soy to begin with.  And I find if I'm avoiding wheat and dairy especially then I'm automatically way down on my sugar consumption anyway.  But I did forget another big avoid for me - potatoes.  Those can be hard to avoid as well - especially in the form of french fries - it's so easy to be so bad!!


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Okay, A BIG question from the previous post . .  SOY?  I thought us O's could have soy.  

Please explain.

As for me, corn is a killer.  I have a lot of trouble with dry eyes, and when I eat corn, I really feel it.  Dairy stops up my nose, and oh how I love cheese!  I have tried to switch my affections to Mozerella ( I think I spelled it wrong), but cheese is just good.

However, I try to have DISCIPLINE, and try to avoid what I know will harm me.  But truthfully, there are times when I just "have one" of something.  Like potato chips... I ate some today before I went into my coma.  Potatos really are a trigger food, but not as bad as wheat and corn.


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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SOY?  I thought us O's could have soy.  

Not O non-secretors, "nonnies."  It's an avoid for them.  Melissa J is a nonnie.



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I'm a secretor, but I'm discovering that soy is probably one of my top 3.  Oddly enough I have very little reactions to corn, especially corn kernals or corn on the cob.  I can eat corn on the cob just fine.  It actually makes me feel good.  I don't eat it very often.  

Corn syrup is a different animal, tho.  It is one of my top avoids.  It really does a number on me, mostly triggering severe sciatica almost immediately.

Wheat, soy and corn syrup are my biggies. Potatoes don't bother me, but I'm not a potato fan at all - never have been.  As long as I don't have the "healthy"kettle type chips in the house, I'm fine.

Dairy also show no effect for me, except that it makes me want more and more.  Even mozzarella does this, unfortunately.  I'm starting to realize that this is my dairy problem - it is a bad trigger food.


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But WHY do our avoids make us want more and more?  


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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Quoted from meribelle
But WHY do our avoids make us want more and more?


Personal opinion: If you give the body avoids it thinks - If you expect me to get by on this stuff I'm going to need more - so you eat more. Dont eat avoids.

Never a big wheat eater but now eat none due to BTD and the testimonials I hear on this board.

I find I can good rice replacements from any decent aisan food store.






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I am doing better with all of these posts in my head.  But it is kind of like "whak a mole", which is a game played at a carvival. When you don't expect it, a mole pops up and your job is to Whak it.  My point is that just about the time I think I am doing good on avoiding my avoids, all of a sudden I am eating one of them!!  

I never thought about our bodies crying out for more because the food is not sufficient.  Whatever it is, sometimes it yells awfully loud.

My eyes scratch and my nose runs.  Wheat and Dairy and Corn are my main problems.


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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And while I am asking questions, here is another one.

Is there really enough "corn" in corn syrup to cause a reaction?


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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Quoted from meribelle
And while I am asking questions, here is another one.

Is there really enough "corn" in corn syrup to cause a reaction?


Yes. Corn lectin. That's why it's classified as an avoid in the TYPEBase4.


Knowledge is power.  SWAMI gives you the diet that will unlock the key to better health, and it's all based on your unique individuality.

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YES!! )

avoids act like drugs in our bodies, until we kick the trigger problem, and free our body of the junk.


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You are right.  Our's is not to question.  It has been tried and proven.  We just have to believe and do.  It works.


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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I think the main reason corn syrup is such an avoid is because of the way it's processed and made - it's such a processed thing that one could hardly classify it as a food - it's a cheap sweetener and filler I think.  Others may have better explanations as to why corn syrup is so bad for all everyone - I'm pretty sure it's an avoid for all blood types.  


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I was thinking about prepared spagehetti sauce when I wrote about corn syrup.  As you know, I made spaghetti, and did not eat the pasta, BUT, there is corn syrup is just about all spaghetti sauce in a jar.

So much for a quick meal for a working girl.  From scratch is better and safer.


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So much for a quick meal for a working girl. From scratch is better and safer.


More creative too. I just made spagetti sauce tonight for rice spagetti.
Tomato paste, water, garlic, onion, cayanne pepper,curry.
Did up a double batch and will save extra to use later. You can extra cook to set up later convenience.

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except for A secretors with no serious health issues......
important here is choosing a non GE corn syrup, preferably organic.
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?13


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wheat gave me horrible attacks similar to that of having gall stones. Piercing pains through the middle of my chest clear through to my back


Wow!  I kinda figured when I get this problem, that it was the wheat, especially. Seems, however, when you eat one avoid, you inevitably eat another.
I have every symptom listed on this thread when I eat wheat. Sore throat, ear pain and bronchitis to add to them, if I missed them somewhere.
Corn syrup and high fructose corn syrup should be considered BIG avoids for O's.  Funny how the "eating an avoid makes you want to eat another avoid" things goes, but it is also true for me. It has been a constant struggle lately, w/ certain avoids. Gotta get my mindset back on 100% compliance!!!!!  
KK, thanks for separating this off into it's own thread. Seems some of us O's need a constant reminder in the way of these threads, that wheat is such a no-no.
 Not that I REALLY want to be a celiac, but I think avoiding wheat would be so much easier if I were. Now THAT is the cowards' way out, huh?  Tho, to be truthful, I think wheat affects me just about as bad as if I  were.
Still wishing I could get my daughter to get her and the girls off wheat. Gotta be the good example. THERE, now THAT should be a good motivator.



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meribelle--you can find commercial spaghetti sauce without corn syrup in it. Check your health food store, or look online. I will admit to keeping a jar or two in the cupboard for times when I just don't feel like being creative, or am in a hurry. My roomie likes Classico brand, so that's what we use. It has parmesan cheese, partially hydrogenated soybean oil and citric acid in it, but they are fairly low on the list and I don't seem to have any problem with the sauce beyond a few achy joints from the tomatoes, so it's a good choice for us. (She doesn't care for any of the HFS brands.) In any event, it's very occasional use only, so I'm not too fussed. As long as I'm not eating it on semolina pasta, it's all good.

Anyway--back to the thread topic, wheat. I never connected my constant anxious state and panic attacks to wheat until I went off it completely a year and a half ago (Oct. 2004). One month later, anxiety and attacks--gone. Then I did something stupid that turned out to be a blessing of sorts. For Thanksgiving I had a teaspoon--one TEASPOON--of bread stuffing. Twelve hours later I had a massive panic attack--shortness of breath/wheezing, rise in bp, trembling, paranoia, the whole works. Wow! That was a huge shock. I knew then I could never consider wheat or grains as a staple part of my diet ever again. I mean, I knew in my head wheat was bad for me, but this was a demonstration to my body that what Dr. D told me, and what my head knew, was RIGHT. *chuckle* I have weird thought processes, what can I say.


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The organic tomato pasta sauces taste exactly the same as the "other" ones.  Who wants tomato sauce with ANY hydrogenated fat or corn syrup in it?  Would you make it with those ingredients?  I certainly wouldn't, nor would I eat them.  
There's one calle Muir (I think) Organics that is fantastic and about the same price as "regular".  If I need a lot of sauce for company, I'll use it as a base for my own sauce but I usually make my own because it's so darned easy.  
Take a crockpot and pour cans of tomato sauce, puree, crushed, ground, and some paste.  Add chopped or squeezed garlic (or bottled if you buy it), some italian seasoning, turn on pot and voila!  4 hours or so and you've got sauce.  
When you make it a little more often you'll learn to add basil, oregano, bay leaf, a little thyme, some sauteed onion, fennel, and you'll learn what combos of tomato products make the texture you like.  


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There's one calle Muir (I think) Organics that is fantastic and about the same price as "regular".  


Just a warning of sorts about the Muir brand. Someone else on the forum said they were really disgusted that the citric acid in this brand is from corn. They said they confirmed it w/ the company itself.
There are lots of pasta sauces at WF that are mostly, if not totally, compliant. You just have to read, read, read the labels.  The Isola brand is pretty compliant. I get the eggplant and mushroom variety. LOVE it.



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