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Quoted from mikeo
4 times per week week could mean having 4 avoids at once
like an O having a burger on a wheat bun, with pickles, side french fires with ketchup which is one meal out of 21 for the week. Being compliant the rest of the week would net a 95.23% compliance.
For a week and a half I was 100% compliant, but I didn't do the exercises or relaxation things because I can't afford yoga and tai chi classes. But I GAINED 6 lbs in those 10 days. So I compliance does not always work. And in my case, it gets me really depressed.
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healing is a long process.........stay in track and fine tune according to your individuality.
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For a week and a half I was 100% compliant, but I didn't do the exercises or relaxation things because I can't afford yoga and tai chi classes. But I GAINED 6 lbs in those 10 days. So I compliance does not always work. And in my case, it gets me really depressed.
A week and a half of compliance is not an adequate test... It took me three weeks with no corn to reduce the concentration in the body enough to stop the constant headache.
Initially, I too gained weight. In studying the situation, I determined that the reason I gained weight initially when eating beneficial foods was that they were foods that the body could use for food, and since it stores food when it has had very little, it immediately stored any excess until food came in regularly enough for the body to realize that it didn't have to be in starvation mode. After about two months, the weight started to melt away (about 30 lbs {15%} in 2 months)... Now it has been cycling in about a 10 lb range that is comfortable for about a year.
You need to do exercise, even if you walk for an hour focussing on walking correctly this will have quite a large benefit.
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Joe, thanks for sharing your personal results following btd! great job!
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Thank you very much Joe. I was just concerned that something was wrong, because I gained 37 lbs since September of 2005 on a strictly vegetarian diet and there were so many things like beans in here and rice and eating a cup of uncooked rice a serving was just a lot of food and it reminded me of the weight I had gained on this kind of diet.
that cup of uncooked rice has come up a few times...??? perhaps there is a mistake ......? that would be more like 3 c. rice, cooked.....how would that be used?
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it is 1 cup cooked...........
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In designing a new study we are trying to work out what exactly constitutes 'following the diet.'
So far we have three categories to test subject:
1. 'Deal Breaker': this category cannot be used in the study. Examples would be type A's on pork or some other red meat avoid or type O's on wheat. These people cannot be said to be doing the BTD at all; neither in action or spirit.
2. 'Reasonable Aherence': These are people who are getting beneficials and avoids in and out of their diet in a manner prescribed by the BTD, but not to a level considered 'High Compliance'. They may or may not be doing the appropriate exercise. These people can be used in the study, but probably need to be followed for at least 4-8 weeks for any analysis.
3. 'High Compliance': These people routinely (read daily) consume beneficials and so rarely consume avoids as to have it consitute an 'event' when it occurs. An 'event' represents and occurence of less than 4-5 times per week. They also perform the prescribed exercises and stress reduction techniques. These people can be tested for physiologic changes due to the BTD within 7-10 days.
When 'compliance' refers to 'consuming beneficials' does it refer to eating that percentage of your total foods (by weight) from the beneficial/diamond column?
Or, does it mean that you consume 80% of the foods listed in that column?
For instance, I consume 98% of my foods from the beneficial/diamond column but I pretty much eat the same things over and over. Of the 70 foods listed as 'diamonds', I only eat maybe 25 of them. Of the 200 superfoods, I only eat 15. I worry that I'm not eating enough different foods to be compliant but eating more of them would be a real chore. I also don't eat any grains, not even beneficial ones, and very few fruits.
Is there a minimum number, not a percentage, of beneficials that need to be consumed? Would a Hunter who lives exclusively on beef, cod, eggs, olive oil, asparagus, broccoli, kale and walnuts, all of which are diamonds, be compliant? This would be so easy for me....
What are the deal breakers for each type?
Is pork a deal breaker for everyone? Is dairy a deal breaker for everyone?
Would an acceptable avoid 'event' be something like using leeks in my stock or cinnamon in my curry both of which are pretty essential for authentic flavor?
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When 'compliance' refers to 'consuming beneficials' does it refer to eating that percentage of your total foods (by weight) from the beneficial/diamond column?
Or, does it mean that you consume 80% of the foods listed in that column?
What are the deal breakers for each type?
Is pork a deal breaker for everyone? Is dairy a deal breaker for everyone?
Would an acceptable avoid 'event' be something like using leeks in my stock or cinnamon in my curry both of which are pretty essential for authentic flavor?
I interpret it as 80% of my intake. How you measure is probably less important than striving for your chosen compliance level.
The dealbreakers will be the foods listed for each type in LR4YT as the worst foods for that type. Wheat is the first listed for O's.
If you choose to use an avoid, you choose to use an avoid. Count it against compliance. I'm aware of some O non's that get cinnamon as a neutral due to family/personal health history.
Hi BHealthy - Unfortunately Dr. D hasn't gotten too much more specific than in the quotes you show. Depending on one's interpretation, there can certainly be quite a lot of wiggle room.
For example, I intrepret 80% beneficial foods as being 80% of my total number of servings, by recommended serving size. Not by weight, because 6oz of beef could be one serving, but 6oz of ghee clearly is not.
As far as only eating a variety of 25 of your "diamond" foods, in my experience that's very normal. Most people have quite a limited variety of foods that they eat as staples. As long as you're eating from most of the catagories, you're going to be fine. Even though you don't eat much fruit, it looks as though you eat an acceptable amount of veg to be getting your vitamins and needed nutrients from them. I don't eat red meat or poultry, and exceptionally little fish and eggs, but I consume generous amounts of veg proteins, so I feel it balances out.
I can't help as far as the "deal breakers" are concerned...
But "avoids" specifically "should not be eaten". Obviously, you've been consuming avoids all of your life, so an avoid food isn't going to kill you, but it will hinder the healing and preventative capabilities of the diet as a whole. Avoids should be chosen judiciously and with discretion. As far as I've seen, there isn't any one specific "right" answer. The right answer for you is determined by how you feel about it.
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When 'compliance' refers to 'consuming beneficials' does it refer to eating that percentage of your total foods (by weight) from the beneficial/diamond column?
Or, does it mean that you consume 80% of the foods listed in that column? I worry that I'm not eating enough different foods to be compliant but eating more of them would be a real chore. I also don't eat any grains, not even beneficial ones, and very few fruits.
I get as much variety as the body needs... Most of the time, I can use a rather limited number of foods and cycle between them, but once in a while, I need to add something that hasn't been in my diet recently. My body tells me when it isn't happy, but I know many people don't have the same ability... Just remember that there are more foods to choose from in case you get cravings, etc. later and wonder what it could be. It may be a need for greater variety...
Is pork a deal breaker for everyone? I assume, "Yes" Is dairy a deal breaker for everyone? Many people get some dairy - so "No."
Would an acceptable avoid 'event' be something like using leeks in my stock or cinnamon in my curry both of which are pretty essential for authentic flavor?
I think some other onion would work OK in a stock and there may be other spices that would replace cinnamon in the curry without making too big of a flavor difference. We all have to make our own justifications, etc. based on where we are in our health path...
I personally choose to not each avoids if I am home.
If I am at a restaurant, I choose as compliantly as possible (including substitions, etc.) realizing that sauces or spices may have avoids. I do attempt to avoid anything that may have a corn additive.
If I am a guest in someone's home, I may eat a very small amount of an even a major avoid to avoid embarrassing the host, but this has never been a frequent happening, so I consider these "events" and know I have to deal with the pain...
If I am a guest in someone's home, I may eat a very small amount of an even a major avoid to avoid embarrassing the host, but this has never been a frequent happening, so I consider these "events" and know I have to deal with the pain...
It has been about 3 months since I've accidentally ingested wheat. I was pleasantly surprised before this period that one time I had ingested some and I promptly took 4 Deflect and that saved me from much pain and suffering. I always make sure to carry 8 Deflect as well as Intrinsia at all times. I've been taking 4 Intrinsia daily, throughout the day, as well as 2 Polyflora and this has had tremendous results for the pain that I would experience in my colon and stomach. Intrinsia is worth it's weight in gold!!! So perhaps taking your GTD type specific deflect under such circumstances would be of benefit for you also.