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Okay, just fell off pedestal. Thud.


I know what that feels like.  I fell off the pedistal and was off of it for almost two years.  (Having your half your house torn up for that long with a procrastinating husband will drive anyone to eat avoids on daily basis!)  But that day I couldn't walk without pain was a real deal breaker.  I never want to go back there.  It was my "hitting bottom" so to speak.



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Actually, if I may be so bold, I believe (not sure, but believe) I was the first to choose that word, and I posted on the old board as to why I used and liked that word, basically for the reason you just stated!  I didn't like the idea that if you're not doing it PERFECTLY, you're not doing it; you are either on it, or off it!


Why not, it's yours! BTW, if I may be so bold, I think I actually coined the phrase 'Integrative Medicine' in the 1970's  when I was part of the student team at Bastyr College that was helping to design the clinical curriculum. Now everyone uses it, including Medscape, which unveiled its new 'Integrative Medicine' section on its website, featuring, of course, an article by Stephen Barrett stating that the whole concept was bogus, and a link to new research indicating the chocolate milk appeared to be effective as a post exercise recovery drink.

Strange what the conventional world often considers 'alternative' to be.


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Why not, it's yours! BTW, if I may be so bold, I think I actually coined the phrase 'Integrative Medicine' in the 1970's  when I was part of the student team at Bastyr College that was helping to design the clinical curriculum...

Whoa, man, that phrase is everywhere now!  You can't turn around without seeing a "Center for Integrative Medicine".  Of course, none of 'em in Florida contain naturopaths, as that is not recognized here ( ), but that's another topic.  And none of 'em are covered by my insurance, I'm sure (although how would one really know, as they no longer issue a hard-copy benefits book anymore, that is apparently very last milenium, so you go to their internet site and it says in the fine print "check your benefits book for specific information on your plan".    Anyway, I'm digressing left and right.  Point is:  "Integrative Medicine" is definitely a phrase that has been picked up by that elusive 100th monkey and distributed into the mainstream vernacular.  Dr. D. strikes again!




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One of the reasons this way of eatting makes so much sense to me is the fact that I really like the highly beneficals and for the most part the avoids are unappealing to me. Eat pork? gag me, not that I have anything against pigs, they are cute, just not for dinner please. Whereas sushi or sashimi makes my mouth water just thinking about it, love that clean fresh taste of salmon. This board has been wonderfully helpful in keeping things on track. Is there anywhere a list of the "deal breakers"? I had (loaned it out) ER4YT and I have the encyclopidia.


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In designing a new study we are trying to work out what exactly constitutes 'following the diet.'





How do you find your study subjects?  


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2. 'Reasonable Aherence': These are people who are getting beneficials and avoids in and out of their diet in a manner prescribed by the BTD, but not to a level considered 'High Compliance'. They may or may not be doing the appropriate exercise. These people can be used in the study, but probably need to be followed for at least 4-8 weeks for any analysis.

3. High Compliance': These people routinely (read daily) consume beneficials and so rarely consume avoids as to have it consitute an 'event' when it occurs. An 'event' represents and occurence of less than 4-5 times per week. They also perform the prescribed exercises and stress reduction techniques. These people can be tested for physiologic changes due to the BTD within 7-10 days.




By these definitions I am probably in category 3. There were numerous pysiological changes during my first 6 weeks on the BTD when I was either Cat 1 or Cat 2. Since reaching Cat 3 any changes would have to be measured with blood tests or other examinations that are strictly quantitative.

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I'm mostly a 3 but I have to admit....
a couple of days I've been a 2 and maybe even a 1!  It was the lemon meringue pie!  I promise I won't bake another one, even though I have at least 10 pounds of lemons in my fridge!  The juice is going to be SALAD DRESSING, NOT LEMON MERINGUE PIE.  Ok, maybe if I say that 100 times....


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You can juice all the lemons that you currently have, then freeze the juice for later...put the juice into an ice cube tray (in the freezer), then when they are frozen, put them into a ziploc bag to use when you want the juice...or you could just keep the juice in the fridge (what I do).

I'm looking at ways to keep the lemon zest for future use. Oftentimes if I don't juice my lemons right away, one or more of them get moldy and then the mold spreads...sometimes I find a recipe that calls for lemon zest, but I don't have any fresh on hand...


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Mikendomsmum -- Not that you should be eating lemon-meringue pie every day, but your recipe needs a little tweaking, that's all.

You're an O secretor, so lemons are Neutral for you, which is a good start!  You can eat honey, which goes really well with lemons, so replace the sugar in the recipe with honey.  Just remember to account for the extra liquid somehow.  If the recipe calls for cornstarch, use arrowroot instead.  I've read that rice starch works really well, if you can find it (it's apparently sold in Asian markets).

Does that take care of the filling?  You might want to test-drive that much of the recipe by itself, and just serve it in little dessert dishes.  Once you're satisfied with the filling, you can move on to the crust.

Spelt is Neutral for you.  For this sort of thing, you might want to use white spelt flour, though I would be tempted to use whole-grain.  If you know of a good crust recipe that calls for oil instead of shortening, you can use canola oil and you're all set.

Otherwise, you can make Jill's Spelt-and-Olive-Oil crust.  Went looking for it, and (after doing mighty battle with the Recibase search function) finally found ta-daaa! Jill's Lemon Meringue Pie (followed by Jill's Spelt Pie Crust).  Just search on Jill, and those will (I hope) be the second and third recipes that come up.  Good heavens -- the pie-filling recipe calls for sugar!  I knew it was a Neutral for A secretors, but never noticed it's a Neutral for all secretors.  (I bet honey would taste better anyhow.)


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I made a compliant lemon meringue before... loooooong time ago. Just subbed out the avoids...
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Well, I only do lemon meringue pie once a year.  My friend gives me bags and bags of lemons from her tree so I make her one as a "thank you".  It's her favorite.  This year I made one for dh and kids (and me). The rest of the lemons get zested, juiced and all that goes into the freezer.  It only lasts about 3 months, though.  I make Caesar and Canlis salad, at least I used to, twice a week, at least, and go through that lemon juice pretty fast.  I have the second bag of lemons here now so it's time to get juicing!  The trees here in Tucson are jam-packed with lemons this year.  It's funny because the grapefruit and oranges didn't do too well.  
Thanks for finding the compliant LMP!  I'm going to try that out in a couple of weeks.


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To confuse things more consider the relaxed, moderate and focused versions of the diet presented in this newsletter:

http://www.dadamo.com/napharm/newsletter/1-6.pdf

According to this one can consider oneself "doing the diet" by just adding some of the beneficials.


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Someone else might feel that this is too high of a bar to set, others (especially around here) may say that the bar is set too low.


Hi Cheryl,

Doing any part of the BTD is 'technically' doing the BTD. It may not be what I need in a study, or what you need to get better, but it is still acting in a somewhat informed manner than average.

NAP structured their levels of compliance as such because people were constantly asking them if it was permissible to use the supplements and not do the BTD, and if they did, would they be effective?

Yep, a lot of folks like the NAP quality, and originality of the formulas, but are not interested at all in changing their diets.


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Yep, a lot of folks like the NAP quality, and originality of the formulas, but are not interested at all in changing their diets.

The fact that a lot of people are not interested in changing their diets does not surprise me.





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Thanks,
I know that when I first started the diet, I mainly upped the red meat and cut back on wheat and corn.  It was enough for me to see some dramatic improvements.  As I go along I want more, and the natural progression has been toward more compliance.  I think many of us have found that you have to find the level of compliance that works for you.


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those not following the diet, also do not register in the forums, either! )

but at least they 'shop right for sups''!!!.......not bad.....


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Eating an avoid more than once (maybe twice) a week ruins it for me (too sensitive).  Full compliance is the way to go.  My ratios are individualized due to my malabsorption/digestion problems.  Exercise is very extreme at work (audio engineer) so I don't have to make any extra efforts there unless work slows down, then I hit the gym!  


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On the topic of vinegar, I don't know how it is for an O, but for an A, we tend to be somewhat acidic in our muscles----if I understand it right----which is compounded by eating certain acids.  For me, I know now that when I have even the least amount of vinegar, my legs hurt like I've run a marathon, and I come down with bacterial overgrowth (not yeast, like I thought for many years) that wouldn't be polite to discuss.  I combat it by regularly taking Nature's Way Chlorofresh liquid chlorophyll to make my muscles more alkaline.  I don't hurt anymore.  

I used to crave--CRAVE--vinegar.  As a teenager, I'd dump apple cider vinegar all over everything I ate.  After BTD, and after the cravings went away (which took a while), it hasn't been a big deal.  I think sometimes when we continue to occasionally eat an avoid, especially one we know we have a craving or a weakness for, we do ourselves a disservice by continuing to indulge.  If we can get it completely out of our diets, and can ignore the cravings long enough for them to go away (which will ONLY happen if we are dilligent), then our bodies will heal and we won't have to deal with it anymore.  Think of avoids this way...okay, not avoids--AVOIDS...We crave them for a reason.  We know wheat (for example) is evil.  But we want it.  We think about it.  We dream about it.  We have a mental love affair with it.  We turn it over and over in our minds and can't wait till we can have it again.  We cannot resist.  Why?  It's not because it tastes good.  Common error, I believe, to think that we crave something because we like the taste of it.  [After giving up wheat and milk years ago, I ate pizza once, which I had been good about avoiding for a long time.  I was disappointed to find that it wasn't nearly as good as I remembered it being.]  We know from Dr. D (and experience, if we are entirely honest with ourselves and analyze our responses carefully) that we have >>immune responses<< to these avoids.  Which means that when we have a craving for wheat, it's not the taste or texture of the bread so much as it is that feeling we all know so well after we eat a loaf and a half (because we can't stop at one slice, CAN WE?).  Read up on gluten allergies and you will find that gluten in certain people can cause a response somewhat like being doped up on morphine.  It really is a physical addiction that must be broken, and once you are free from it, the cravings eventually go away, IF YOU NEVER GIVE IN.  Most of the foods we are allergic to do not produce this morphine-like effect, but they are just as insidious. You produce antibodies to the foods you are alergic to, and these induce histamine production. When you eat an AVOID that you have an immune response to, you use up the antibodies for that allergen/food, hystamine production drops, and you feel better (the craving goes away) TEMPORARILY.  Sooner or later, the antibodies will be replenished, histamine count will rise, and you begin feeling bad again. It's a crazy cycle that can only be broken by strictly avoiding it until you no longer have those cravings.   Just think how much better you would feel if you didn't have cravings at all to deal with (though they are fun at the moment you fulfill them).  We will regret eating an avoid or an AVOID either tomorrow (sitting on the potty all day, or being depressed or tired, or whatever the response is) or ten years from now (when we develop cancer.)  The purpose of the diet is not to make martyrs of us or make a religion out of it (oh no, I sinned and must confess!  I was BAD [although that may be a little fun])....but to 1. help us feel our best now and 2. avoid many of the diseases that our blood types and genes predispose us to.

As for a vinegar-free mustard, mix 1 tsp. dry mustard with just enough water to make a paste.  Spread it thinly, because it's very spicy (which is really great for those of us who can't have hot peppers and wish we could).  I make it fresh every time I need it.  My husband adds horseradish powder to his mustard (obtained at our local international farmers' market).  A yummy turmeric sauce can be made the same way, to be spread on the top of turkey meatloaf in place of anything tomatoey.

In my opinion, perhaps Dr. D can get away with eating avoids that often because he's been on it so many years the avoids don't bother him much.  I don't know.


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Serena, I been using at times something called Vegannaise. It's made without eggs, and they use Apple Cider vinegar in it and Grapeseed Oil which is high in Antioxidants. I actually need to get another jar since I am out.
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You can juice all the lemons that you currently have, then freeze the juice for later...put the juice into an ice cube tray (in the freezer), then when they are frozen, put them into a ziploc bag to use when you want the juice...or you could just keep the juice in the fridge (what I do).


This is a great tip for using an abundance of fresh lemons, Drea.

Freshly squeezed lemon juice has an unsurpassable taste when utilized in the morning warm lemon water drink recommended for blood type A's in ER4YT and LR4YT.

Alia


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Ribbit,
great post!


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We, Pip and I, were growing old unsuccessfully as we entered our sixties and realised we had to change something in order to get a more satisfactory result.

Eventually we found the BTD. (ER4Y Type) Eureka!

For me the target was to get my quota (share) of life and as many bonus years as I could.

100 healthy years has been achieved by others, why not me!

That is, three score years and ten, 70yrs for males, plus 30 bonus years!

That is the target! (female equivalent for Pip)

Being "compliant" for us is following the BTD in order to achieve that goal!

High compliance, on Dr D's list! (we consume avoids with confidence when we have to)

We are now growing old much more successfully because, we have an quantifiable target to aim for.

Ours is not a perfect world and you have to approach life like a boxer and trade risk of being hit against your own skill in avoiding being hit and still being able to "win the fight".

We don't seem to get things like common colds etc, we feel pretty good, we can walk seven kilometers in give or take one hour and we weigh about 80 and 68 kg respectively.

That is what we gauge our compliance to the BTD on and what our bodies tell us.

I will be 68yrs old in October this year. (Pip 64 in July)  Thank you Dr D and you guys too.    Cheers John.


 
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way to go!!


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4 times per week week could mean having 4 avoids at once

like an O having a burger on a wheat bun, with pickles, side french fires with ketchup which is one meal out of 21 for the week. Being compliant the rest of the week would net a 95.23% compliance.


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