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For many, many years now, I have eschewed the rice cake.  It kinda reminded me of my low-fat dieting era, an era I am still trying to fully recover from and I wonder if I ever will be able to undo the damage I did.  Frankly, I don't think I'll ever be the way I was "before", but it is stunningly amazing how forgiving our bodies are, and mine has weathered it all and just seems grateful to be on the BTD now.

Some things still make me shudder, though.  And the rice cake was one of them.  It just reminded me of all the books, experts and programs I believed who said that fat was bad and I should just munch all day on low-fat and no-fat items like the rice cake and all would be right with the world, health-wise.  Instead, I was **never** satisfied and I became a fat whale.  Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?

So, at least since 1997, I have never given a second thought to rice cakes.  I mean, AS IF, I would ever choose to eat one of those again of my own accord, when I could be dining on steak, fresh broccoli florets, and sweet potato.  WHY?

But lately, I have rediscovered the rice cake, and I must say, I am so pleasantly surprised and I can't believe I never THOUGHT OF THEM before when I thought:

- What could I have instead of potato chips?
- What could I use instead of bread?
- What would be a nice popcorn substitute?

It was that last Q that got me on this latest journey of rediscovery, as some brilliant BTDer (and you know who you are--luckily, as I seem to have temporarily forgotten, sorry!!!) said in response to someone in a recent thread, when the person asked what could she have instead of popcorn that it is delish to take crumbled rice cakes and top it with whatever she would normally put on popcorn.

YESSSSSSSSS *lightbulb*, omg, how bril!  Simple, easy, compliant, tastes at least as good:  why the flip didn't I think of it, dang it?!  I hate when I don't think of things *lol*!!!!!!  But that is the beauty of this community:  if you don't think of something, someone else will!

So, while I wasn't personally really looking for a popcorn substitute, that thread got me thinking about using crumbled up rice cakes in certain situations instead of my beloved and much-missed potato chip (I'm still off the dang things, btw, so be proud...be very proud).  I started crumbling them into certain salads and things and omg, FAB!  Then I started spreading things on them, again, FAB!  Then this weekend, I made a roast beef sandwich out of the dang things (and some roast beef, of course *lol*):  FAB!  Okay, so that last item was not exactly "ready for prime time", as in, I wouldn't serve it to anyone else, as it can be a tad crumbly, but for my sandwich-starved BTD self?  Primo, baby, primo!!!!!  TASTES BETTER than bread and I love the crunchiness factor, and the sandwich was delish!  If it all falls apart, just mix everything together in a bowl and eat it with a fork, it tastes the same!

What I have realized now that I've dained to give the lowly rice cake a second look as apparently enough time has elapsed from the low-fat era so that I can now look at one without experiencing post-traumatic stress flashbacks is this:

Rice cakes are actually GOOD if one puts enough fat on 'em!!!!!!!!  I'm saying that in all seriousness!  You see, in the low-fat era, they always tasted like salted (if you were lucky they were salted) styrofoam to me because I just would have them, like, *gulp* PLAIN!


It seemed to an O in the low-fat era that everything we were told was "health food" was the most inedible, unsatisfying stuff EVER, such as plasticine low-fat cheese, glutenesque "veggie" (with no veggies) burgers, low-fat salad dressing (kill me now), and, yes, rice cakes.

But you just slap some roast beef and compliant mayo on that bad boy and it isn't half bad!


So, between my new rice-n-flax crackers ("Mary's Gone Crackers", herb flav) and my Lundberg rice cakes (http://www.lundberg.com/products/cake_og_wild.shtml), I think I can make this chip-free thing permanent.  The latter (the rice cakes) especially seem like an old friend rediscovered and much more appreciated than ever before.  All they needed was a little FAT!  Seriously, it sounds funny but it is true.

Fat makes the world go round, and makes rice cakes tasty, too!

Of course, the IDEAL thing I should have instead of chips is always a GREEN SALAD, we all know, but I'm a creature of poor planning, no WF close by, and convenience, so for all those times when I didn't get up early to make a salad for lunch, and didn't cook and store some veggies, and I want something for lunch to go with that tuna salad, or go with that chicken salad, or something to crumble into certain things for dinner, or something instead of popcorn, OR--and this is something I discovered this weekend--something to make up/invent/create my own breakfast cereal* with, the lowly RICE CAKE has risen again and shown me its true glory and splendor!

Oh!  And what I really love is that it is TOTALLY compliant, without even the tiny avoid as a minor ingredient that there is in the crackers I mentioned.  And they are loooooow-calorie...which is good, considering how many (additional calories, that is) yours truly ADDS to them.

Last musing:  it is so neat to rediscover certain things in this world once one sees them through BTD eyes instead of sullen, flat, light-free low-fat dieting eyes *lol*!  Ah, the glorious possibilities!

* Edna's weird-yet-good rice cake "cereal":  crumbled rice cakes, Newman's Own organic raisins, tiny bit of pumpkin butter, tiny bit of cherry all-fruit spread (hey, I didn't say this wasn't loaded with SUGAR), a little olive oil, and some sea salt (you have to have those last two, weird as they sound with the other stuff, or it is too sickly sweet).  Hello, da bomb calling!  Note:  If'n you do this, be sure to eat enough PROTEIN at your other meals, or ideally have an egg in addition to this or something, as this is pretty much of a blood sugar spike nightmare prescription...but if you ever get a hankering for breakfast cereal...


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My best use for the lowly rice cake is as a mini-snack when I am hungry and preparing food. A couple of cakes with spread tides me over till I get to the real meal. Find I have to 'pull them apart' rather than bite them as they have their own ideas as to where to seperate.

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You are going to make me re-visit the whole rice cake thing as well.  When I started the BTD, I did buy some of the Lundbergs, which I gathered from this forum were THE best...and they are....but then I never ate them.

I looked at the calories...hmmmm 70 calories plus the almond butter....well, that's getting up there....but I'm hungry...got the munchies, oh, I know...let's have 10 macadamia nuts INSTEAD!   Or a scoop of the walnut/chocolate butter I made....

I've been doing that for a few weeks now, and as of tomorrow, the nuts are going to take a back seat.  And I wonder why my weight is going down so painfully slow!

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Oh, I love rice cakes!  I can still hear my old boss walking by my desk at lunchtime:  "Are you eating that styrofoam again???  That stuff's packing material."

Anyhow, I like putting tuna fish (I put celery and fire roasted red peppers in the tuna, yum) on a rice cake.  And sometimes I just love to smother them in butter.  Though I have a tendency to get carried away with the butter!

BTW, if you don't want to always have to crumble your rice cakes, super Wal-Mart (yes, Wal-Mart) sell this bagged brown rice cereal from Alf's Nutritious Foods.  It is puffed and it's only ingredient is whole brown rice!!!  How rare!  And best of all, it's only like 98 cents for the bag.  Rarer still as far as cereal is concerned.


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hmmmmmmm . . . you should try them smothered with MaraNatha peanut butter and Mille Fleurs fruit sweetened cranberry jam . . . I so know this isn't right, but, I can eat 500 g of peanut butter in one week (sometimes less   )

btw - Lundberg wild rice, rice cakes are may favourite.


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Rice cakes were invaluable the first two months of the diet, while I was still working on getting compliant. Now I have a package that's been sitting in my pantry for a month - once I realized I did not need the rice it has become an emergency ration. I've only cooked rice once in the last 5 weeks. Probably will cook some tonight though, the avoids I had on Sat have me on a mini plateau and I may as well enjoy one meal w/ the easy opportunity to use some tomato paste. Have not had a lot of tomato on this diet, might try a tomato-collard soup or something. Hmmmmm........
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I usually put salted butter on salted rice cakes. Don't like 'em unsalted, takes all the fun out of it for me. I put other stuff on them, too. But when I want "something" and just don't know what, I'll eat them straight out of the bag.  

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I prefer my rice cakes straight -- Lundberg's unsalted organic brown rice variety -- so they don't fight with whatever I want to put on 'em.

Edna -- Now that you appreciate rice cakes, do not (repeat, DO NOT) try any brand except Lundberg.  All the others taste like styrofoam even if you put caviar on 'em (just a thought experiment folks -- I'd never actually do that to caviar -- or to peanut butter, for that matter).

The way I look at it, there are two things to put on rice cakes: any nut/seed butter, or Edna's Famous Yeast Spread (particularly EquiPro's ghee-and-olive-oil adaptation -- see sticky thread in the Cook Right forum: http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=btdlf1,m=1122303873,s=all).

And, since Victoria hasn't checked in here yet, I'll mention that rice cakes are even better if you toast them (just until they smell really good -- they won't actually brown).  Due to the previously-noted self-destructive tendency of the Lundberg product, I actually bake them three at a time on the little tray in the toaster oven.


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How ironic, I just got finished eating crumbled up rice cakes with butter bright before reading this post.   Lundberg lightly salted brown rice cake is my favorite.  Long before I even heard of BTD, I loved the things.   I much on them plain or put cheese on them.  Now that I am not supposed to eat potato chips any more, I eat even more rice cakes.  I keep a package at home and at home. I used to eat popcorn, pretzels and potato chips.  Then I read ER4YT and cut out the pretzels and popcorn.  Then I found out that I was a nonnie and there went my beloved potato chips.  I do eat some rice chips and vegie chips even though the oil is a no no.  But eating rice cakes helps the transition and Lundberg tastes the best in my opinion.  So I’m glad you rediscovered them.  Welcome to the rice cake fan club.


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I buy puffed rice.  I've never salted and buttered it, however.  But it certainly saves the step of crumbling up the rice cakes, and I suspect it's also cheaper.


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Quoted from Carol_the_Dabbler

The way I look at it, there are two things to put on rice cakes: any nut/seed
And, since Victoria hasn't checked in here yet, I'll mention that rice cakes are even better if you toast them (just until they smell really good -- they won't actually brown).


Oh!  By the way, rice cakes are even better if you toast them lightly! (yuk, yuk!!
You got there first, Carol!!  

A favorite quicky is to spread the rice cake with soft (room temperature) ghee, and then sprinkly heavily with nutritional yeast!!  



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I'm having a problem with my rice cakes.
I butter and all-fruit them, start eating them while reading the forums, and then I turn to reach for the plate, and there's nothing on it! Then I have to go make more, and they disappear, too! I think I got ripped off, got some rice cakes that vanish when you take your eyes off them......urp -'scuse me.

I look forward to trying Lundberg's.


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Omigosh, Suzanna -- you like rice cakes and you haven't even tried Lundberg's yet?!?  You're gonna think you woke up in Heaven!  (Just don't eat 'em in a room with a shag carpet.)


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I recommend Lundberg's Mochi Rice Cakes.  They have an especially delicate flavor.

And, Carol, it IS possible to eat rice cakes without raining crumbs!  It's an aquired talent!  



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No worries, Carol, no shag carpets here, just shaggy dogs. And the Pomeranian monitors my every move for dropped crumbs.
Wild rice, huh? Oh, boy....


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And, Carol, it IS possible to eat rice cakes without raining crumbs!  It's an acquired talent!  



Do you give lessons?




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So, am I the only person on the forum who has never tasted a 'rice cake'??
There is a good reason for this! I once worked in an office with a person who kept them in the bottom drawer of her desk - I always knew when she opened that drawer because the smell just made me feel sick!!

Has anyone else had this experience??


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I have to have a snack in the evening.   I just have to!!!!    So I have two rice cakes with a slice of mozzarella cheese on each and I'm verrrry happy.  

Good post, Edna, the saga of the rice cake.  You should be a writer.  Well, on second thought I guess you are, right here on our forum!  
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So, am I the only person on the forum who has never tasted a 'rice cake'??
There is a good reason for this! I once worked in an office with a person who kept them in the bottom drawer of her desk - I always knew when she opened that drawer because the smell just made me feel sick!!

Has anyone else had this experience??

She must have had something else in her drawer, as plain rice cakes do not emit a smell, especially from a closed package.  If you actually sniffed the rice cake itself, it would perhaps have a faint scent like puffed rice cereal, so we are talking faint.  Either she had something else in her drawer which was the offending item, or she had a brand of rice cakes that were all adulterated with flavorings and such, like perhaps a strong artificial flavor like faux onion or something that is as much scent as taste?  Anyway, plain rice cakes are about as innocuous as you can get, scent-wise.


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Quoted from Carol_the_Dabbler
...The way I look at it, there are two things to put on rice cakes: any nut/seed butter, or Edna's Famous Yeast Spread (particularly EquiPro's ghee-and-olive-oil adaptation -- see sticky thread in the Cook Right forum: http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=btdlf1,m=1122303873,s=all).

I must say my popcorn topping of yesteryear that you reference, which is also a great toast spread, of dark-toasted sesame oil, a TINY dash of lemon juice (optional, in this case), some nutritional yeast flakes, and sea salt does reach its zenith of awesomeness on rice cakes!  Who knew?  It is a little TOO awesome and I hope I won't overeat these.  I wonder if the "one cup of cooked grains" portion per WEEK for nonnies applies to rice cakes, as they are so air-laden?  I mean, geez, one cake crumbled up would probably fill a liquid measuring cup, but sticking to one rice cake per WEEK?

I dunno, that is gonna be pretty brutal!  For now, I'm just grateful to be off chips, hopefully for good, and off rye, and off rice bread, off bread, period.  I think the rice cake is it for me, grain/crunch/sandwich/chip substitute-wise.  Don't know if one per week is gonna do me, judging by how I've been going through them during this "honeymoon phase".



I mean, you drizzle some dark-toasted sesame seed oil on one, sprinkle on some nutri. yeast, add a dash of sea salt, and you have got something.  btw, whoever invented dark-toasted sesame oil deserves some sort of medal.


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P.S.  Good O nonnie sandwich:  Take yourself two Lundberg wild rice cakes, put some compliant mayo on 'em, sprinkle with sea salt.  Add some thinly sliced roast beef and a slice of beefsteak tomato (not that I can get decent beefsteak tomato down here in FL, you'd have to be in a state that has good ones, but IDEALLY, a slice of beefsteak tomato).  On your mark, get set, CONSUME!


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Do you give lessons?



Yup!  Here goes......
Close your lips around the edge of the rice cake when you take a bite of it, and the crumbs fall into your mouth instead of the shag carpet!  

But, I have a feeling that these intructions won't work for a double decker sandwich.



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I wonder if the "one cup of cooked grains" portion per WEEK for nonnies applies to rice cakes, as they are so air-laden?  I mean, geez, one cake crumbled up would probably fill a liquid measuring cup, but sticking to one rice cake per WEEK?


Edna, I think it would take at least 6 rice cakes to fill a cup if you really crushed them down enough to get rid of the air.



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...Close your lips around the edge of the rice cake when you take a bite of it, and the crumbs fall into your mouth instead of the shag carpet!  

But, I have a feeling that these intructions won't work for a double decker sandwich.

Yeah, the rice cake sandwich is, in the words of the old Saturday Night Live band name "not ready for primetime".  I wouldn't serve it to anyone else by myself!  But one of the positives of being single is that one can eat like a primitive wolf (as opposed to a civilized wolf?) and there is no one there to be horrified!  Wuu HUUUUUUUUUUUUU!

Yes, if anyone were to document the solitary habits of this O non, it would be truly horrifying *lol*...but, hey, works for me!

Bottom line:  The rice cakes make workable sandwich "outers", so I am THERE, be they crumbly or not!  Besides, the crispy sandwich thing is very cool.  Liking it, liking it.  LIKING IT!

Let's just hope I can keep myself in check with these things, as right now I seem to be rice-cake crazy, but I'm hoping that I'll calm down once the novelty wears off.


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P.S.  Total non-sequiter:  speaking of "double decker sandwiches" (and, Victoria, I think you actually meant a "single decker" sandwich, containing two rice cakes, but I understood your point!), did anyone catch The Apprentice* and that sandwich that the one guy fixed himself to eat?  omg, it had to be easily a foot tall and contain enough carbohydrates to feed a small village!  I mean, every other level was a thick piece of BREAD/bun/whatever that was...bagel?  Boy howdy, I have never seen such a daunting and impossible-to-believe sandwich.  I mean!

* Yes, I cop to watching ANYTHING produced/conceived by Mark Burnett, including Survivor, The Apprentice, and The Restaurant (omg, still wondering whatever happened THERE...that Rocco guy needed to go back in time and be re-parented!).


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