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| Thursday, February 9, 2006, 11:26pm |
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I have been thinking about olive oil.....I cook with it several nights a week. Does that count? I guess not because I still have the problem. Some how it is hard to imagine swallowing a spoonful of olive oil.. meribelle |
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| Thursday, February 9, 2006, 11:32pm |
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try drizzling the olive oil on your salads or other veggies with some lemon juice - delish if you ask me  |
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Quoted from ironwood55
Immature seeds contain higher amounts of cyanogenic nitrates and glucosides and are more dangerous. Flaxseeds also contain lignans, which have mild estrogenic, antiestrogenic, and steroidlike activity. These problems are not present with flaxseed oil.
Does this mean that flaxseed oil does not assert an estrogenic effect? |
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| Thursday, February 9, 2006, 11:46pm |
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I get the impression that mixing the ground flax seed into applesauce is not a good solution.
That is probably OK as long as you drink plenty of water, since the dry flaxseed is going to pull water from your system. I think soaking the flaxseed first is probably a better way because then it doesn't have to pull water from your system. |
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| Friday, February 10, 2006, 12:08am |
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Quoted from ironwood55
...recommends not consuming more than 2 to 3 Tbsp. of flaxseed or flaxmeal per day because the seed husks contain naturally occurring cyanogenic nitrates and linamarin, which can be toxic in higher doses.
I forgot to mention that I have wondered for a long time if the overnight soaking of the flaxseeds, the beginning stage of sprouting, possibly rids the flaxseed mixture of the unwanted compounds? |
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meribelle |
| Friday, February 10, 2006, 1:17am |
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My ground flax seeds have been soaking for 2 hours in water. They look frightening. What do I do with the liquid in the morning? Drink it straight? |
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| Friday, February 10, 2006, 1:50am |
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I wouldn't soak ground flaxseed overnight, although it may be OK it certainly is not necessary.
The last few months I also have been adding a tbsp of lecithin and maybe some flaxseed oil. I drink the glop. Others like to add other things to it, like chopped nuts, fruit, etc and make it more like porridge.
The overnight soaking is for whole flaxseeds. |
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| Friday, February 10, 2006, 1:58am |
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Well, I used to think drinking Metamucil was scarey. This will really be an adventure. Guess I should eat/drink it now, since they have been melting away for several hours. meribelle |
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| Friday, February 10, 2006, 2:49am |
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Mikes suggestion is less 'scary'...... add two tbsp of ground flax to a cup of lukewarm water, mix and drink before going to bed.
also a magnesium sup is a great help! |
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| Friday, February 10, 2006, 2:54am |
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That might be better. It was like brown slime when I drank it. But was able to drink about two thirds of it. I really appreciate everyone's suggestions. This is great!! meribelle |
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| Friday, February 10, 2006, 1:02pm |
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meribelle, I am going to again suggest a parasite cleanse. I have been taking Paraherbs for just a couple of days and am seeing results already. I have been taking nothing else to "help things along". I am not having any diahhrea, just movement. I tried Swiss Kriss............got movement (M), but diahhrea (D) right after. Same w/ Ex-Lax. THIS, M followed by D, is not what I am looking for in the way of "help"  Here is the link to this product, so you can check out the ingredients and be sure that nothing will conflict w/ any meds or other supps or health conditions you may have, if you would choose to try this: http://www.michaelshealth.com/products.asp?id=76My sister-in-law tried this and found it flared up her arthritis, big time. Of course, she didn't tell the gal about her health conditions, as I had strongly advised her to do. She has a lot more health issues than arthritis, so I can't really be sure what brought the problem on, but she tends to think it was this. Just wanted you to have all the facts. Good luck. I'm struggling right along beside you.  Dang antibiotics. That's when the trouble started, despite the fact I was taking probiotics. Guess I just wasn't taking enough. Well, apparently, I wasn't taking enough.  |
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Well, sesame seeds are not going to be a substitute for flax since they are listed as Neutral infrequent use in both the Allergy and Fatigue Health Library books. I'll have to settle for not using ground flax or flax oil and just stick to the whole soaked seeds. The intolerance testing is a no go for flax! |
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| Friday, February 10, 2006, 4:02pm |
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| Friday, February 10, 2006, 5:43pm |
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Quote from article: "More digestible protein than meat, whole eggs, cheese, human milk, cows milk or any other high protein food. " This is a pretty powerful statement. Do you use this? I'm not discounting that hemp hearts are not a good food, I was just surprised to see that statement. It does sound like a super food and I may order some. I wonder, can you grind it up? It does seem like a perfect food where the Omega 3 & 6 ratios are concerned. This would be great to use if it truly cuts out the desire for starches and sweets. Thanks for the link
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Hemp seeds have not been tested for BTD compliancy as far as I know, but the good dr did write up something about hemp oil, and I recall it was an avoid for Os. I'll see if I can find it. Here we go: http://www.dadamo.com/ask/ask2.pl?20050712.txt |
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| Friday, February 10, 2006, 6:29pm |
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okay, that's for the oil. how 'bout the hearts? Would they be ok? |
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| Friday, February 10, 2006, 8:55pm |
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I don't know about the shelled seeds. I do have some in the fridge and was using them pretty consistently on my salads for a couple months. Then I stopped so I could test my reaction to them when I reintroduced them. My gut feeling is that they do not sit well with me (punny, huh?), but I will know more when I do the actual test (having sensitized myself to them). John is right in that they look like a great food. |
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| Saturday, February 11, 2006, 2:22pm |
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I don't know about the shelled seeds. I do have some in the fridge and was using them pretty consistently on my salads for a couple months. Then I stopped so I could test my reaction to them when I reintroduced them. My gut feeling is that they do not sit well with me (punny, huh?), but I will know more when I do the actual test (having sensitized myself to them). John is right in that they look like a great food.
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meribelle |
| Saturday, February 11, 2006, 5:31pm |
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Well, I just returned from the health food store with golden flax seeds, and plain flax seeds. Does any one know the difference aside from the color and the price and the taste? I have discovered that they are not so bad to eat when mixed into a paste with molasses. As an O, I think I can have molasses.
I also bought rice bran, which I plan on mixing in my applesauce, ground flax seed, ground walnut, creation. It is really good. I will let you guys know how it tastes when the rice bran is added.
I remember reading about eating whole flax seeds, but I can't remember anything specific except they are hard to pick up. Yes, indeed, they are very small.
It is a beautiful sunny day here in south Texas.
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| Thursday, February 16, 2006, 8:17pm |
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Just wanted to let whoever needs to know, that I just started a thread called Oxy-Powder. It's for cleaning the colon and for constipation. It looks like a good product, but wanted some opinions from the people here.  The citric acid is even from fruit!!  |
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| Thursday, February 16, 2006, 8:32pm |
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Since I have a thyroid issue and estrogen can make one rather sluggish, I take 500 mg of magnesium a day. Magnesium is required for normal muscle function and helps with bowel function. Also found Vit C can really help with constipation.
I have found the adding of more fibre really hurts my bowels, but the magnesium doesn't create gas or diahrea.
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| Friday, February 17, 2006, 12:28am |
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Is this magnesium, as in Milk of Magnesia? I found that works for occasional problems. I drank some whole flax seed water, but never had any results. I guess maybe exercise is the answer. I am drinking a lot of water. Oh well, it is a mystery. |
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Don |
| Friday, February 17, 2006, 12:48am |
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Quoted from meribelle
I drank some whole flax seed water, but never had any results.
I assume you are talking about overnight soaked whole flaxseed. If so, I am curious, how long did you do this for, days, weeks, months, with no results? |
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meribelle |
| Friday, February 17, 2006, 12:59am |
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soaked them one day, drank them the next morning. i expected a miracle. |
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| Friday, February 17, 2006, 1:16am |
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Quoted from meribelle
soaked them one day, drank them the next morning. i expected a miracle.
Soaked whole flaxseed don't work like fasting acting laxative. It is 100% insoluble fiber and over the long run if used daily it should help. |
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