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| jsgrierson |
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Jenny, I also am very curious about this coffee/iron thing. I was told that tea will cut your iron absorption by 1/2. I quickly googled that and didn't find anything on THAT, but found some other stuff and at this point, forget what.  However, I have an O friend (and I realize you are an AB) who drinks lots of coffee and black tea and has problems w/ iron. It was so bad at one time, just a couple of years ago, that she had to have an iron transfusion. So.................... ???? BUT on the other hand, she is also celiac, which can cause the same problem. So it would be interesting to know just where HER problem lies. One, two or all 3.................
Italybound, I am an A; but I'm glad you are keeping this discussion going as I have noticed that sometimes information changes in the BTD world,(eg the big change in whole wheat for A sec. recently) and we don't always hear about it straight away. Jenny |
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Italybound, I am an A;
Sorry 'bout that, guess I still had AB in my head from reading that quote from Dr. D. Least that's the excuse I'm gonna use.  What about the big change for A's re: whole wheat? I'm unaware of this I guess.  |
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| Drea |
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I always thought whole wheat was an avoid for A secretors, too, but now that I have my LR4YT book out, I see that under Tier Two, whole wheat is listed as neutral, and this book was published way back in 2001. Huh. |
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| Sunday, March 19, 2006, 12:07am |
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I always thought it was too. My DH is an A, tho I don't know his secretor status and who knows if THAT will ever happen. Maybe I can use this as a way to get him to test.  Oh, heck, I can dream................ |
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I always thought whole wheat was an avoid for A secretors, too, but now that I have my LR4YT book out, I see that under Tier Two, whole wheat is listed as neutral, and this book was published way back in 2001. Huh.
I don't know which thread it was on, but about a fortnight ago someone hit us with the bombshell that wholewheat had sidled over into the neutral category in typebase for A. I was gob-smacked. Jenny  |
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And looking in TB4, I see sprouted wheat bread is an avoid for O's. I am continually confused about that. Dang!!! And I just bought a loaf of Ezekiel cinnamon raisin bread yesterday. |
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Yes, but is it an avoid for O secretors if you are following Tier One??? |
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And looking in TB4, I see sprouted wheat bread is an avoid for O's. I am continually confused about that. Dang!!! And I just bought a loaf of Ezekiel cinnamon raisin bread yesterday.
Wait a minute, I was just there, and it listed Ezekiel as a neutral for O sec. Update: There are two different listings: one for Ezekiel bread and one for Wheat Bread/Sprouted. The latter has a picture of wheat GRASS, so I'm wondering if the grass is avoid for Os, not the sprouted wheat that is used to make Ezekiel bread... |
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| italybound |
| Sunday, March 19, 2006, 1:30am |
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Update: There are two different listings: one for Ezekiel bread and one for Wheat Bread/Sprouted. The latter has a picture of wheat GRASS, so I'm wondering if the grass is avoid for Os, not the sprouted wheat that is used to make Ezekiel bread...
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| Sunday, March 19, 2006, 3:28am |
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Ezekial Bread (that specific brand) is neutral for O sec. and non. sec.
Other breads which are called sprouted wheat may contain unsprouted grains and/or wheat flour, and that's the potential problem with them. Actually, they could contain any number of avoids, so be diligent with label reading.
Wheat grass has been discussed on several occasions on the forum as ok for all blood types (as long as we don't pull it up by the roots and eat the wheat kernels. Just a guess, but it seems like that photo of wheat grass is just to show that when wheat sprouts, it changes from a grain to a vegetable. |
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Victoria, thanks for the explanation. Good news for italybound and her just bought loaf of Ezekiel bread.
So, if the bread product does not list any flour or unsprouted grain as ingredients, then it's good to go. I always read the ingredient list, regardless, for anything that has one. |
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| ISA-MANUELA |
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and thanks lola...made me a little happier *a little café wont' harm*....= the keyword her is...a little  mostly not to be found in any kind of addictions  |
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*a little café wont' harm*....= the keyword her is...a little mostly not to be found in any kind of addictions
 So true, Isa! "a little" is not in the dictionary of those of us who are coffee addicts. |
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So true, Isa! "a little" is not in the dictionary of those of us who are coffee addicts.
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| ISA-MANUELA |
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and all dearles, today only a mini-cup of café...will go twice in the week to get my neighbour hogtied with a seringue ....(injection of mistletoe) and after this she offered me a cup (normal cup) not a double...as usual...and she looked at me and told me...hey you look like outta trash...  yup couln't denye...but after this cup...I felt much better not that tired... and that was all for today with café.... and it will go on ...perhaps tomorrow no café at all...we will see but must be honest...not that bad...to loose a bad habit...not that bad.... |
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| JamieB |
| Monday, March 20, 2006, 7:39am |
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I just remember reading on WebMD and on other regular health web sites that coffee did lower the absorbtion of Iron but I did not specifically read anywhere that it was a problem for A's by Dr. D. And in my last post I forgot to explain that I had to go back on Iron pills after I had been tested while not taking any Iron pills and after I had reintroduced coffee into my diet even though I tried not to drink to much or too often. I dont know if this helps but this has been my experience with iron and coffee. |
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| Monday, March 20, 2006, 7:46am |
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looks like the jury is still out Jamie.
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no cup of café today, not even the little one and petit à petit..I feel better |
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| Tuesday, March 21, 2006, 3:22am |
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Keep up the good work Tomatilla I.  I have been having a real struggle w/ that too. No coffee since Saturday that I can think of right off the top of my head. Today, I was offered coffee twice and was within spitting distance of a great cup of coffee when I went to get a massage. (the coffee place is in the same small building) Passed them all by. Now if I can just do it tomorrow..............  |
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| Tuesday, March 21, 2006, 8:47am |
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ooo Patty... its true... a real  but must be honest...I don't struggle against whatsoever...just gentle letting go...wow.... learned something new and then it is much easier.... only the smelll and this bloody temptations.     but the after-feelings...huh...just great when you are realizing...no...I said just no thanks... perhaps it is also the time for me to learn of the law of the masses...my favoured law was =  lots will help a lot ....but since childhood I've acted likewise... no feeling of the right portions...not in foods but in beverage or bathoils or similar...hey just crazy... |
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| Tuesday, March 21, 2006, 2:07pm |
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| Tuesday, March 21, 2006, 6:37pm |
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Good going girls.......Isa and Pat!
The smell of coffee has always been the hook for me, and that's what tended to draw me back in repeatedly. But finally it reached the point that my body reacted more and more horribly every time I would drink a cup. The last time I had a cup of coffee, nearly a year ago, I was truly ill. I felt like I had food poisoning.
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Victoria, half of mine yup I think here the B-part took care of me... I feel very similar today....I don't miss it at all and I didn't remarked until now how really tired I am in reality...because alltimes I took café as beverage, ahem mostly ot the time...yes and I think now I must go for a real detox..thatswhy in the very first days' I've got a terrible headache and normally I never have any headaches at all |
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| Wednesday, March 22, 2006, 3:55am |
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Isa,
You will feel steadily better and better. Also, when you are tired, you will rest. RIGHT? |
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