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OK.  Most of us if not all of us have noticed specific problems caused by eating specific avoids.  What I am looking for is specific information…….cause and effect.  What happens after a specific avoid?

After I clear my system of the Holiday Avoids, I will eat just one avoid at a time to see which does what.  I suspect dairy for the headaches/migraines but don’t know if it is a specific dairy, all dairy or even dairy at all.  I also suspect dairy for itchy skin and dry sticky throat.

In the meantime, what happens to everyone else?


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OK.  Most of us if not all of us have noticed specific problems caused by eating specific avoids.  What I am looking for is specific information…….cause and effect.  What happens after a specific avoid?

After I clear my system of the Holiday Avoids, I will eat just one avoid at a time to see which does what.  I suspect dairy for the headaches/migraines but don’t know if it is a specific dairy, all dairy or even dairy at all.  I also suspect dairy for itchy skin and dry sticky throat.

In the meantime, what happens to everyone else?


I get a rash when I eat safflower oil.

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I get tired and fatigued with grains.  I get a runny nose with milk products  and stomach pain sometimes.  My muscle ache when I eat alkaline fruit like oranges.  
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where to begin.

I always get stomach issues and diarrhea, I get diarrhea when I turn around to fast so.........

Dairy makes me achy
avoid fruits and veggies make my stomach acidy
grains make me tired
avoid meats make me gassy



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slyparrot.  A reaction may not be noticed each and every time you eat an avoid.  You may have to eat that avoid more than once to actually notice something specific.  And then it will take time to get that out of your system and you should take the time to do so before moving on to another avoid.  Remember to take DEFLECT!  Sometimes eating avoids just makes you "not feel well" even though you can't put your finger on any actual symptoms.  I get tired if I don't eat right.  And then, of course, are the effects that you just cannot see or feel.

I've seen everything from intestinal disturbance to Acne from eating avoids, mostly in my type O daughters.  It's amazing to me though, after being on the diet for so long, just how little of something naughty it takes to make me feel unwell (or how horrible some avoids taste now) but yet before BTD, I didn't notice they made me sick.

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As Laura P said "where to begin"...

Wheat makes me snuffly, makes my joints ache, and makes me puffy
Dairy makes me mucusy and makes my face puffy
Corn, especially if combined with beans, is pure evil- tired, joints achy, face and   body puffy beyond belief, but the worst is the emotional rage it brings about!  Talk about toxic emotions!  Yikes!
All grains make me constipated and tired
Sugar makes me moody and makes me need more, More, MORE SUGAR!!!
Coffee and black tea make my skin itch, especially at night

What a list.  So why do I think it's ok for me to eat these things?  Am I a slow learner or what?


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If I consume a lot of sugar or honey I actually start to get the symptoms of a cold.  Wheat and dairy I haven't eaten in years so I can't remember what effect they had on me.   Not sure if tofu is an avoid for me or not but eating it used to make me want to puke.  Miso paste used to make me bloat up like a balloon, but that may have been the high salt content.  Grains, even Essene bread, makes me want to puke.  

Strangely grains constipated me and eating red meat keeps me really regular. Since introducing red meat I am having 3 bowel movements a day.


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avoids create inflammation in general.

my metabolism gets sluggish and I retain lots of liquid!
not a good thing to live with.)


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yes, I retain fluid, and get constipated, sometimes heartburn,



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Pork products and orange juice give me heartburn.

Wheat products make me have a fair-sized energy crash.

Dairy products give me a stuffy nose.

Too much sugar, and I'll have an acne outbreak around my neck.

Aspartame removes all possibility of me getting a good nights sleep.  I usually toss and turn for a good part of the night.  Which is a shame, because I like Fresca.

I don't know what the cafeteria here at the hospital uses for ingredients, but they make a purely evil brownie.  If I consume one of the brownies, within 45 minutes, I will have a hellacious energy crash.  It's so bad, that it creates a burning sensation around my eyes, and just sucks the life out of me.  After the worst of it, it takes about an hour before I regain some energy, and come out of my mental fog.

Dairy + Wheat = Pizza = a bloated energy crash, and constipation for a few days.  Had an urge for a pizza on Thursday, and I'm just now feeling right again.  Well, some would say that I've never been 'right'.   At least not in the head.


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Actually the cleaner you get ...the more they will make you crash..Its healthier to eat right but you become very sensitive to the wrong foods. Price ya pay....Jayney-0
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Wheat & Corn make my joints ache BIG TIME.  I had gotten myself into a terrible place; too much wheat and popcorn, from going to the movies.

I finally went on the Arthritis program.  For the first week, I had nothing but Super Beneficials & Beneficials.

By day four, my joint pain had completely disappeared.  By day 8 still on the all super & beneficials and WHAM!!!  I had been blown over by a hum dinger of a flu bug.  I'm still down with THAT; it's now day 10.  I can't seem to get rid of the congestion in my lungs or the yellow/white snot c**p in my sinuses.

I've slowly added in a few Infrequent neutrals to my diet, but for the most part, my diet is still 80% Super Beneficials & Beneficials.  My joints are still doing pretty good, but man I want to bury this flu!



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I don't know what the cafeteria here at the hospital uses for ingredients, but they make a purely evil brownie.


A friend of mine makes very tasty brownies (from a mix) that give me sort of a cross between a charley horse and restless-leg syndrome.  I get a cramp in one calf muscle, and have to walk it off.  I finally stopped eating those brownies!  (Then I moved to another state.)

Back before I realized that I'm allergic to beef/milk protein, eating beef used to give me diarrhea.  Either beef or cow milk would make me woozy.


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This is kind of fun...  

All avoids = bloating, distended stomach, sleepiness

Potatoes:
- inflammation, aches in my knees/hips/elbows, headaches
- diarrhea
- spacy feeling, can't concentrate, can sit a do nothing for a long time!

Wheat:
- wicked mood swings (especially when combined with sugar)
- sleepiness

Sugar:
- wicked mood swings (especially when combined with wheat)
- sore throat
- headaches
- acne

Dairy:
- nausea

Corn:
- hives, itchiness, especially around joints


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Wow!  This is going to help me do the process of elimination.  Wheat is a suspect of joint pain and instant weight gain/puffyness for me and reading the other posts here is making it look even more guilty!

One of the Holiday Avoids also gave emotional rage (I think) but no corn was in anything I ate.  Hmmm....What did it?

Coconut oil is a suspect for itchy, red bumps on skin.  It has happened 4 times after eating it!

Yes, Janey-O, I am very sensitive now!

Jill the Pill, Yes, troubleshooting everything down to the nitty-gritty will take some (one-at-a-time) trial, and cleaning myself out in between will be a miserable thing but I want to know!


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A friend of mine makes very tasty brownies (from a mix) that give me sort of a cross between a charley horse and restless-leg syndrome.  I get a cramp in one calf muscle, and have to walk it off.  I finally stopped eating those brownies!  (Then I moved to another state.)


Wow    Had to move out of state, just to get away from the temptation?    

Isn't it great, being so in tune with our bodys, that we instantly know when we've consumed avoids?  While it's certainly no fun going through the repercussions, it just gives us incentive to take better care of ourselves each and every day.  

Remember what it was like, going through life in a mental fog, and not even being in touch with your body?   Nahhh....I don't care to remember either.  This life is SO much better.  


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Oranges & Tomatoes: Rough dry itchy patches near my mouth.  Itchy watery eyes.  Horrific stomach ache

Potatoes: Feels like all of the moisture has been sucked from my body.  I get very bloated and terribly achy joints

Peppers: Itchy skin, the worst gastric reflex...even with just a little bit.

Sulfates/ites in my shamoo: Really bad psorisis.  


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[quote=Olerica]Oranges & Tomatoes: Rough dry itchy patches near my mouth.  

Peppers: Itchy skin, the worst gastric reflex...even with just a little bit.

I have the exact same reactions



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Okay, let's see . . .

Wheat: panic/anxiety attacks after eating even a small amount, as well as continual low-level anxiety and pms-like mood swings, water retention, pain in lower legs, racing heart, extreme thirst, joint pain, extreme fatigue

Corn/grains in general: joint pain, headaches, inability to concentrate, inability to articulate words or type, water retention and extreme thirst, extreme fatigue

Legumes: gas and bloating, fatigue, itchy skin

Potatoes/avoid vegetables: joint pain, spaciness, bloating and gas, acid stomach, itchy skin

Avoid fruits, especially citrus: acid reflux, skin rash, gas, diarrhea

Dairy: stuffy sinuses and nose, acid reflux, fatigue


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Quoted from Olerica

Sulfates/ites in my shamoo: Really bad psorisis.  


Couldn't agree with you more.  I had eczema from beinbg a newborn baby until hte day I threw out every product I had that contained suflates.  Within a few days of not using sulfates, my eczema had gone forever!!! I realized that even the baby shampoos and baby bubble bath contains sodium lauryl sulfate.  Nearly everything contains it, even toothpaste.    I am so glad that I don't let this stuff anywhere near me anymore.



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Wow!  This is going to help me do the process of elimination.  Wheat is a suspect of joint pain and instant weight gain/puffyness for me and reading the other posts here is making it look even more guilty!


Here's some interesting information for you about fibromyalgia (muscle pain) from Dr. Peter's Encyclopedia:
(Bolding emphasis mine.)

Blood Group Links

Blood group O is highly susceptible to fibromyalgia, especially with consumption of wheat. Wheat germ lectins exacerbate the tendency for HYPERIMMUNITY, which is a characteristic of AUTOIMMUNE DISEASES. Of the foods known to induce joint INFLAMMATION, grains certainly top the list. In some cases, avoidance of grains is the only dietary maneuver required, especially in the early stages. Our most common grains contain lectins, and many of these lectins are specifically attracted to the sugars that are found abundantly in connective tissues, particularly N-acetyl glucosamine (NAG). Wheat germ lectin, in particular, has an affinity for NAG.


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I have the book.....what's the page number?

I still have geographic tongue that pops up every now and then, even on a full compliance level.  Maybe I'm overlooking something.  It's not unbearable like it used to be but I'd like to find out what is causing it!  Does anyone else have geographic tongue?

Some of the comments listed above used to fit me perfectly.  Why do we go off the diet when we know what will happen?  I was sooooo good before the holidays!  Back on track now and thankful!

Everytime I look at an avoid, I will think.....If I eat this......this will happen!  Maybe it will stop me in my tracks in the future!  Ha-Ha.  


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OK.  Most of us if not all of us have noticed specific problems caused by eating specific avoids.  What I am looking for is specific information…….cause and effect.  What happens after a specific avoid?

After I clear my system of the Holiday Avoids, I will eat just one avoid at a time to see which does what.  I suspect dairy for the headaches/migraines but don’t know if it is a specific dairy, all dairy or even dairy at all.  I also suspect dairy for itchy skin and dry sticky throat.

In the meantime, what happens to everyone else?

Slyparrot, I admire your scientific zeal in putting your body through this experiment but I would prefer to believe the BTD and simply avoid the avoids. I have enough trouble with intolerance to things that should be beneficial to me to want to voluntarily put myself through any more trouble than is necessary.
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Hi Slyparrot

It’s only my third day on the diet but I can tell you some things I noticed before I became aware of blood type beneficial and avoids, etc..  

I never really thought I had any serious problems with foods until I became more aware of what avoids are and finally started to put two and two together.  My only real regret was that time I was approached by a mascot character person who was dressed as a large ice cream cone.  This character kept bumping into me and I eventually found it a bit annoying.  So I informed this person that, “hey, I’m lactose intolerant”.  Just as I was chuckling to myself at my semi-clever line, I saw the mascot remove her cone head and she was quite the babe!  Boy did I blow that one.

Anyway, I’m lactose intolerant.  When I eat wheat tortillas I get congestion in my throat and have to clear it.  When I drink O.J. I get a sour stomach, same with pickles so I didn’t eat them.  Finally while I don’t think it’s an avoid, when I eat bananas my throat and tongue itch.  Which makes me start imagining anaphlactic shock, so I don’t eat bananas either.  I guess that’s probably more than you care to know, but those are my reactions and I’m sticking to them.  Actually not anymore since I’ve found this diet!
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Finally while I don’t think it’s an avoid, when I eat bananas my throat and tongue itch.  Which makes me start imagining anaphlactic shock, so I don’t eat bananas either.  


I couldn't eat bananas from my 13th age (1966) onwards, until the end of my first year into the BTD (2000). I had similar reaction to what you encounter, but a lot stronger, I could hardly breathe even if I had only a bite. Now I can eat two in a row without any adverse reaction. There is a chance that you may eat them without a problem after a good while following the BTD

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Hi.

Any Type B's out there?

I'm wondering how you Type B's react to avoids?

I'm starting to notice that when I eat certain avoids that I had been previously avoiding, I notice my headaches starting up again.  This is frustrating, though, in that the sensitivity to food really eliminates the possibility of eating those avoids again.

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This is frustrating, though, in that the sensitivity to food really eliminates the possibility of eating those avoids again. Gail


Hi Gail,

Did you, by any chance, mean to say "motivating" instead of "frustrating"

Sorry, just kidding, but actually that's how I take it myself

My son is a B and he develops a number of respiratory problems if he eats chicken, tomato etc..

Cheers,
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Hi. Actually, I did mean frustrating (!).  I would just like to be able to cheat sometime and get away with it!

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Very interesting thread.  There are a some major avoids that I NEVER eat (knowingly, anyway).  I don't eat wheat (except for sprouted wheat, manna bread, etc.) corn.  On New Years night I was invited to a small dinner party at a neighbor's and she served a pork roast.  I never eat port, maybe occasionally a piece of bacon wrapped around a scallop but I haven't had a pork roast in years.  The only reaction I had was really feeling tired, draggy the next day.  
I eat more dairy than I should.  I eat goat's milk cheeses and an occasional buffalo milk yogurt.  In fact, I had one for lunch today and I'm feeling it now.  I'm acid-y and getting a little stuffy.  
I need to get the arthritis book and see if it really helps my knees which are really achy from skiing last week.  
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I think I  believed DrD the moment I read about oranges being avoids for A's.
My mom used to put an orange in my lunch when we could afford them.  So when I walked home from the one room country school, I would peel it and eat it.  I did not want to tell my mom that it made me feel icky because it was supposed to be a treat.
When I established my own home, I did not include them in any recipes.
It was later in life that I discovered Green peppers were acting like oranges.
An avoid is an avoid, is an avoid----
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Good news Yaman, thanks.   I hope you're right about bananas because I do like the taste and their qualities in a smoothie type drink.  
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It's under AUTOIMMUNE, fibromyalgia.....


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I need to get the arthritis book and see if it really helps my knees which are really achy from skiing last week.  
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I've been on it Jane.  It's REALLY working!  Noticed a difference in my joints after only four days of being on only super beneficials & beneficials.  After two weeks, I've branched out into some neutrals, but for the most part, I'm eating 90% bennies.


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I recently purchased 2 different chocolate bars from WF for an experiment.  The one with milk powder made my skin itch really really bad.  The other one did not have any noticable affects.  They both had sugar, but no other avoids.  Chocolate is supposed to be neutral, but other than bitter sweet (baking) chocolate there are avoid ingredients.

Also, prepared horseradish is beneficial for O-nonnies but it has avoid ingredients (vinegar)...??...


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wheat, increases body fat despite more weight bearing exercize.


Do you have some scientific background for that? I am working on a seminar to give to all those who have been asking me "what do you do" and I want to incorporate not just the BTD, but also all that is connected to it.
Maybe some article where that is stated.

Also I need it for my husband. He is now quite fatless. Only 15% body fat, but a lot of it is on his tummy and he wants to get rid of that. He still eats bread. So if I can show him that wheat increases body fat, maybe he'll stop eating it (he's O btw).
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I've been on it Jane.  It's REALLY working!  Noticed a difference in my joints after only four days of being on only super beneficials & beneficials.  After two weeks, I've branched out into some neutrals, but for the most part, I'm eating 90% bennies.


I need to get that book for a friend of mine. She has arthirites.

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I ate a corn on the cob and my entire head and body turned bright yellow and into a sort corn cob shape.  In the end one of my friends dipped me in butter and ate me.


Kombu noodles are DELICIOUS (and wheat-free)
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I ate a corn on the cob and my entire head and body turned bright yellow and into a sort corn cob shape.  In the end one of my friends dipped me in butter and ate me.


Wow!  What avoids did you eat to have that kind of dream!?    



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Do you have some scientific background for that? I am working on a seminar to give to all those who have been asking me "what do you do" and I want to incorporate not just the BTD, but also all that is connected to it.
Maybe some article where that is stated.

Also I need it for my husband. He is now quite fatless. Only 15% body fat, but a lot of it is on his tummy and he wants to get rid of that. He still eats bread. So if I can show him that wheat increases body fat, maybe he'll stop eating it (he's O btw).


Scientific background? It's found in ER4YT  what makes O's gain weight, but it also applies to A's as well(personal experimentation), but if you're looking for it in a scientific journal, then you will likely not find it.  See the lean fat burning thread.


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Wow!  What avoids did you eat to have that kind of dream!?    



It was some "special" mushrooms that I believe were on the Super Beneficials list.    



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Do you have some scientific background for that? I am working on a seminar to give to all those who have been asking me "what do you do" and I want to incorporate not just the BTD, but also all that is connected to it.
Maybe some article where that is stated.

Also I need it for my husband. He is now quite fatless. Only 15% body fat, but a lot of it is on his tummy and he wants to get rid of that. He still eats bread. So if I can show him that wheat increases body fat, maybe he'll stop eating it (he's O btw).


Sandra, I'm not sure that 15% body fat is particularly low for a man.  I also have 15% body fat but I'm a woman.  I also have a round face and breasts so both of those must be storing fat.  What I'm trying to say is that 15% is lean but it's far from "Fatless".  



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Do you have some scientific background for that? I am working on a seminar to give to all those who have been asking me "what do you do" and I want to incorporate not just the BTD, but also all that is connected to it.
Maybe some article where that is stated.

Also I need it for my husband. He is now quite fatless. Only 15% body fat, but a lot of it is on his tummy and he wants to get rid of that. He still eats bread. So if I can show him that wheat increases body fat, maybe he'll stop eating it (he's O btw).


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Why Wheat is evil.

A story by Erin Ward.

The seed coat of wheat contains a lectin called Wheat Germ Agglutinin (WGA).  

They provoke the immune system to manufacture antibodies against them.

The acids within the stomach do not break down Wheat Germ Agglutinin and as it begins to be digested in the small intestine, it begins its mission to destroy O Blood Type Humans!

WGA binds to the cholecystokinin receptors and inhibits their action.  Cholecystokinin (CCK) is a hormone secreted especially by the duodenal mucosa that regulates the emptying of the gallbladder and secretion of enzymes by the pancreas and that has been found in the brain.  The enzymes digest fat, protein, and carbohydrates.  CCK is also present in the brain and may play a part in appetite control.  When CCK is low, appetite control is also low.  Lectins block the CCK receptor and inhibit the secretion of amylase, which is needed to digest carbohydrates.

Then, WGA enhances membrane bound maltase, an enzyme that breaks down complex sugars into simple sugars in the small intestine.  At the same time, WGA inhibits aminopeptidase, and enzyme that breaks down polypeptides into amino acids.

Once WGA has made it into the blood stream (because it resists digestion), it mimics the effect of insulin on the insulin receptor of fat cells.  The lectin binds to the fat cells and signal the cell to stop burning fat and to start storing extra calories as fat.  Since WGL has already acted upon maltase to break down complex sugars into simple sugars, there are plenty of simple sugars to begin storing in the blood stream.


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Sandra, I'm not sure that 15% body fat is particularly low for a man.  I also have 15% body fat but I'm a woman.  I also have a round face and breasts so both of those must be storing fat.  What I'm trying to say is that 15% is lean but it's far from "Fatless".  



Well maybe it's even less then. I know woman are "allowed" to have maximum of 30% and men are "allowed" to have 20% max.
I just checked (knew I had written it down somewhere), his BMI is 20, is fat is 13% and he his 1.83 meters. And he's absolutely not fatless. He has some around his waist that he really wants to get rid of.

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Wow-- I am so glad that I read through these because I too have experienced some of them and I thought I was going crazy.  I have found when I don't eat protien of some sort throughout most of the day I have terrible mood swings.  I get headaches from the wheat and then I crave more of them.  I also found when I add caffine I crave that more too, I am going to guess that is normal?  
Despite all of these things I still have a problem following the program as close as I would like too, I am going to be much better in this New Year so that I can feel good all of the time.  I do know for myself that when my stinking thinking , (of a little bite won't hurt me)  comes into play that I get myslef into trouble and then I feel terrible again.  
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lisa,
you got the right idea!! )
keep up the good work!


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Has anyone seen a connection for acne?
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To Dawn-  

MissleCop and Whimsical both replied that sugar gives them acne, see the postings on page 1.


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candida, too! )


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I realized in college that I got bad stomach cramps after eating chicken.  Everybody thought it was in my imagination because chicken was thought by many to be THE healthy meat.  I now feel vindicated.  The case history in the book about the 7 yr old who liked chicken nuggets and corn on the cob reminded me of my son when he got frequent ear infections at that age.


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Wheat makes my joints ache, corn does all sorts of things, unfermented cold soy products (ie, milk, tofutti) causes anaphylaxis; haven't isolated the rest.

I noticed a couple of people talking about beneficials that give them itchy tongues or lips.  This is a classic cross-reaction.  I thought I was "allergic" to a ton of fruit:  cherries, bananas, etc.  Unfortunately, lots of stuff on the beneficials list.  But I heard an allergist discuss how frequent this is for people with pollen allergies.  Bananas, for instance, are a cross-reaction for people with latex and ragweed allergies....others are cross-reactions for birch pollen, etc.  Which makes me curious whether anyone's had any luck with Dr D's allergy book?....

By the way, cooking those fruits lightly takes away the problem!


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that book must be full of advice!! )


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I got the allergy book because I've had continuous post nasal drip.  I suspect my problem started due to a smoker in the house.  Since the smoker has left the building... permanently my problem has diminished somewhat, but is still there.

The book answered questions like "why am I craving these things?" which turned out to be super beneficials.

wheat, soy cause severe allergy attacks consisting of violent sneezing and total energy wipe out.

vinegar causes joint pain in my ankles.

I'm an avid label reader so I don't have problems often, but once in a while something slips by me and I pay.  I'm good with the concept of avoid.... except for corn.  I don't eat corn often, but what's good Mexican food without chips and salsa?  If I associated a problem with occasional poisoning myself with corn, I would immediately vow it off the menu permanently.  Because I don't notice anything... I do eat it, but no more than once or twice a month.  I only get it from restaurants that make their own, or I make my own.  I refuse to buy the packs in the store.


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you must be allergic to trans fats and additives, also! )
as well as artificial flavours....etc.


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Allergic to trans-fats?  They are evil to consume, but allergenic too?


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Allergic to trans-fats?  They are evil to consume, but allergenic too?


In a  sense, yes, they are proinflammatory


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Usually I get tired then a little cranky, sort of dizzy sometimes (particularly with dairy).  If the reaction is bad enough I can become full blown confused.  But usually it's like my balance is a little thrown off.... something feels not quite right, within 15 minutes of finishing the avoid, and lasting hours... or longer.  Wheat causes me to get cranky and angry very quickly.  It revs up my nervous system.  All avoids cause me digestive trouble, which means some degree of constipation, diarhhea, painful bowels, cramps, gas etc.

Avoids.... they're bad!  
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Well I found out that sugar gives me the runs. Ever since I had my thyroid problem I had the runs. Now I always thought that it was because they put a laxative in my thyroid medication (I take Thyrax). But I never put two and two together. Ever since my thryroid problem I also started taking lots of sugar. It gave me some energy, at least for while. Yes, I know that was bad (now!) but back then I did things that would make me feel better even if it was for just a little while.

So now I stopped taking sugar and I still take my medication and I don't have the runs at all. A week ago I had a little sugar thinking it wouldn't kill me (since I've been eating so much of it all those years). Well it didn't kill me, but it did give me the runs.
Go figure.
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Cinnamon is on Tier 2 for me but every time I eat it, the next day I'll have an aura several times of the day and ensuing headache.  Before I knew about the BTD diet I had figured out that cinnamon affected the gut and have never eaten it much.  I love it, too!

Coconut and sesame seeds are avoids and I agree as they affect the intestines and I'll probably have loose bowels.

Other than this I never notice anything from an avoid.  The key word is "notice" as I realize the BTD is to be followed for life and I try not to stray.
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I don't react to avoids. Not single avoids, like if I make a dish with organic bacon or accidently eat something with wheat or corn. I don't feel a ting - I'm such a mis-fit!

IF I feel anything, I can't pinpoint it on ONE food, and I seldom get the same reaction after eating the same avoid twice.

I have to dive into an avoid-buffet at a party to feel anything the next day - but then I'm not sure if it's a regular hang-over or the avoids talking, so...

ETA: Years ago I would never have followed a WOE where I couldn't feel any big effects. But BTD is different somehow. I KNOW this is better for me, so I just do it. Maybe it's because I got my AHA-moment from Atkins and started to feel so much better when I stopped eating grains, but I didn't want to follow the Atkins-WOE in the long run. It didn't feel right, somehow. I couldn't understand why artificial sweeteners were better than fruit?! BTD was the logical answer to that question for me. That's why I believe, that I'm a BTD'er for life!


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New Hamsphire,  Cinnamon is listed as an avoid for you.  Look at type4base.

Poly,  Wow,  If I didn't feel the effects like you don't feel them, I probably wouldn't have seeked out this diet!  How compliant are you?

Prunes are beneficial for me but they give me painful gas really bad and sometimes the runs........holding up to their reputation!


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I'm fascinated by all of this!!!!

I've been bad since the holidays, too.. I haven't gotten completely on track.  Wheat isn't my downfall...mine is coffee or tea.. hot.. with sugar and milk...

I didn't really notice any O's with any descriptions of problems they had when they had coffee...

I have arthitis, too... I know coffee aggrivates  this in  type O's.. I know I should stay away!

Just to add, wheat made me SoOoOOo tired... breaks my face out, too!  So does sugar and coffee... ( but it tastes so good!)  

All this reminds me how BAD i  felt as a vegetarian for so many years... ...

Thanks for making me want to get back on the wagon...

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sometimes I just was thinking that the sickness came because of the knowledge of having eaten *avoids* = means the psychological input.... must be honest... not only because of those inputs
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Yes, Slyparrot, cinnamon is an avoid on Tier 2.  So even though it's on Tier 2 and I eat it and am in a healthy condition I still get bad effects from it.
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Poly,  Wow,  If I didn't feel the effects like you don't feel them, I probably wouldn't have seeked out this diet!  How compliant are you?


Heh, I didn't seek out BTD - BTD seeked me out!

How compliant I am? Hm, usually I'm pretty compliant - about 85%, I guess... (How do you actually determine these things?)

Because...

Quoted from sheri
I didn't really notice any O's with any descriptions of problems they had when they had coffee...


I do drink coffee - with cream! I love it, and I know it will be the last thing for me to let go. Much easier to quit smoking, IMO!

So if coffee is 10% that leaves 5% for other stuff - like some oil or some gum way down on an ingredientslist for, say, mayonnaise or something. Thinking that the amount is so miniscule, that the worry over it's ill effect will be more dangerous, than the stuff itself, so...  

Maybe coffee is the reason why I don't feel the ill effects of the avoids. Hm, not much reason to quit it then, is it?!? Well, I do plan on dropping coffee as an every day habit, but not now while I'm in the middle of a very stressfull period of my life. When things have cooled down a bit, then I'll look into it. I promise!


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Poly,

Good point about worrying about avoids, especially when they don't give you any obvious problems and are soo miniscule!.  I don't want to be obsessive, but when my body tells me something is not good i will listen to it.  Though not always soo easy, since i'm am hooked on coffee again!!!.  I can't say it is the best for me as i think it may be making me agitated and causing some dry patches on my face.  It seems alot of us O's have a hard time giving up coffee for good!!!.  I even love the smell of it and when i see it on t.v., even in a show, i want it soo bad!!!.

Good Luck giving it up!!!

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Good Luck giving it up!!!


You too!

Actually, I've always envied sensitive people who get all sorts of reactions, because they're more carefull about taking care of themselves.

One thing I know, though: I'll never be able to follow any WOL that takes out the fun in life. And if I live to be an old woman, I'll probably at one point say stop and do exactly as I please: eat marinated herring, drink port and smoke big cigars every day!


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Wheat & dairy = runny nose, sinus inflammation

pork = horrible stomachache & gas

beef = constipation (though it seems I can have a burger about once a month without this problem - more frequently though & I'm doomed)

Those are the only reactions I've noticed - I'm sure there are others I'm not aware of
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I'm finding that the 'cleaner' I get (i.e., more compliant--to portions as well as foods--and also avoiding my additional suspected or known allergens), the easier it is to note reactions.  Although, as anyone with multiple allergies knows, it's hard to sort out precisely what one is reacting to sometimes,especially when the reaction is a day or two later (like food poisoning!).


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You folks with banana sensitivities might also want to be careful with natural latex.  I've read that banana plants and rubber trees are related, so some people will react to both.


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I get tonsil stones from too much dairy; and if I have some late in the day, my snoring gets loud.  Eating potatoes too often gives me achy knees; and wheat, in any amount, makes me gain weight.


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This thread is so interesting!

I quit coffee and I didn't think I could ever do it. I drank it if even though it made my heart race and made me SUPER CRANKY! I practice Bikram yoga and I found that class became much easier and much more fun, the more compliant I was on BTD. But I kept drinking coffee. Then something changed and I started getting super dizzy during class and had trouble catching my breath. I quit coffee and haven't had any trouble in class since (and it's a tough class!) and it's lost its temptation factor. I can't explain why but glad it happened.

Dairy & wheat congest & constipate me.

Sugar gives me a sore throat and I feel as if it lowers my immunity - as if I could catch a cold any minute. It also makes me break out.

Oranges BURN my stomach.

Apples give me a strange but mild blood sugar reaction that's hard to describe.

Cauliflower makes me nauseous.

Chickpeas wreak havoc on my digestive tract.



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Soy beans and all products (as well as most legumes/beans) cause anaphylaxis.

Wheat and corn are pure evil. They cause bloating, fatigue, aching joints, headaches, sore muscles etc.

All grains and starchy veggies cause the above symptoms. I do not seem to tolerate grains or starches at all.

Dairy causes gas and other tummy related woes.

I also notice that avoiding dairy alleviates my unfortunate reaction to the sun called polymorphous light eruption.

Sugar causes mood swings and fog on the brain. I also get the jitters and bug around the room followed by a crash. Entertaining for others. Unpleasant for me.

The combination of dairy and sugar causes demonic possession.

I have no ill effects at all from drinking coffee...only benefits. I drink organic dark roast black coffee. No milk. No sugar. Yum!

All kinds of tea make me nauseous, especially green tea, because I loathe tea. I'll stick with coffee.
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.  Which makes me curious whether anyone's had any luck with Dr D's allergy book?....


Hi Patty,
Both your entries on this thread caught my eye. Yes, the new allergy book has worked for me. As soon as I read page 99/100 I know what my life long problem has been- sulphides. Now it's back to packet reading and food diary keeping. I kept the daily food(and other things like new detergents) diary for three months before reaching this point. See my thread called Hives in the Encyclopedia Forum.
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Whole wheat:  One dose doesn't do me in but if I keep it up I have sugar issues.  I won't be able to drink any root vegetable juices or even a piece of fruit without sugar cycling.

Dairy:  Instead of getting a runny nose like other folks my sinus get dry as dust.  Once I get up in the morning I have to snort a little water and wait a few minutes until my nasal passages are moist enough to breathe easily.  It takes a several more snorts and more time before I can blow my nose.  I also get constipated.  

Tomatoes:  Wicked debilitating arthritis pain in every joint of my body.

Red meat:  Shuts down my G-I tract so nothing moves for days.  I'm not talking just not pooping and things get backed up.  Nothing seems to move at any stage of my G-I tract.  

Garbanzo beans:  My only migraine was a three day long blinger where I didn't leave my darkened bedroom.  Pressure relieved the pain.  I didn't realize how much pressure I was applying to my forehead until on the third day I felt my upper dental arch and palate spreading.  That headache was induced by maybe a dozen garbanzo beans.  I truly believe I'll die never having consumed another garbanzo bean.

Bananas:  I don't eat them but when my secretor children do they'll all wet the bed.  

Oysters:  I've not purposely eaten them but once my husband made me an A-friendly broccoli-carrot-tofu stirfry.  After 15 minutes it felt like hundreds of tiny needles were sticking me in my tongue.  I asked him about the ingredients and they sounded fine.  I dug through the garbage and found he used a commercial sauce as a base and saw all the ingredients were things I never reacted to but then there was "oyster extract".  

I've believed I was a secretor due to the way I react to food whose values differ for A sec and A non-sec.  I've also never had a dental cavity.  What convinced me beyond a shadow of a doubt is that, after avoiding avoids for quite a while, when I encouter an avoid my saliva will get viscous.  It's not tacky just thicker and it seems to flow over food in my mouth slowly.

Any other secretors experience this?


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Hi friends,  I've been eating for my blood type for about a year.  Until recently I didn't associate(like many of you)my aches, runny nose, and pains with a particular food that I was eating.  What is now awakening me started with a blood test, two weeks ago,  where my serum glutamic oralocetic transaminane enzyme or SGOT/AST was slightly elevated plus I had been having some tightness in the upper torso(around the bottom of my bra for a better way of describing the area)off and on for months.  I decided to go to a doctor, a naturapath.  He asked question and in that session I came up with - this tightness started about the time of my switch to the blood type eating.  I had been a vegatarian for 20+ years and now I was eating red meat.  My last attack of tightness was after St Patrick's Day when I ate corned beef and cabbage.  NOW after reading your comments I'm putting two and two together and coming up with its the food, you know the ones on my O non avoid list.  The doctor suggested that since I was getting older that my stomach acid was dimishing and that I need to take a table spoon of apple cider vinegar in a glass of water twice a day.  I don't think I want to do that because vinegar is on my avoid list since I am an O non-secretor.  Today I woke up with this pressure/tightness.  Any suggestion?  


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I don't know how many of them affect me but here's what I do know so far:
Wheat-makes my face break out, eczema on trunk and arms
Too many grains of any kind-makes me feel high and loopy, serious brain fog and clumsy
Too much fruit of all kinds, even bennies- gassy, heartburn and reflux


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I had a huge list but thought I would share how I feel right now after a final discovery that a neutral for me must be an avoid. Butter and ghee both have same affect.

As of this morning after making a beautiful breakfast of turkey sausage, eggs and pumpkin cooked in butter, I feel like I have the flu. My body aches all over. This is not how it started. It started with horrible cramps in my stomach and then a long visit to the throne. At one point, I thought I would vomit but it remained as a nauseous feeling. As the day progressed I began to notice some aches and pains like fibro. Now I am freezing cold like one gets with a fever and ache all over like the flu. My nose is running and my body feels like I should just lay down and go to sleep even though the mind says keep on going. I am very tender in the area around the belly button and bellow and my midrift feels like I just drank a ton of water in 5 minutes.

Relief comes from belching and having a nice warm kitty lay on my stomach. I'm about to drink a nice warm cup of peppermint tea and had already taking a bromelain. I was not able to take my supplements as everything other than broth has increased the sharp pains in my stomach. Tea for dinner tonight. No more butter or ghee for me  


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have some ginger, also, for diggestion.


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Molly,
have some lemon water first thing in the morning instead.


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have some ginger, also, for diggestion.


I was looking for my ginger tea but saw that I was out and do not have any fresh. You just reminded me, though, that I have ginger capsules. Think I will go take one of them now. Thanks!

Lemon water? I have never done this. What does the lemon and water do?


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Molly.

Along with Lola's comment, I have found drinking seltzer or sparkling water has helped similar symptoms.


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Molly mentioned she was told by her ND to take apple cider vinegar.......
lemon juice first thing in the morning, in a cup of warm water is advised for As,
for detox and helping stomach acidity.


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Thank you and sorry! I realized after I hit post that Molly had posted an issue that you were addressing. I was so caught up in my problems that I missed it and thought maybe you wrote the wrong name. Dahhh! It's not all about me.  


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no biggie!! lol
your advice on seltzer water is also good!


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no biggie!! lol
your advice on seltzer water is also good!


Thanks! Also, I took two ginger capsules and drank the peppermint tea and things are finally start to calm in the stomach. Phewwww! I hate that feeling. I thought I was going to be to the porcelin gods soon. So much better now.


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good to hear!!! (I mean read)


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Missy, this wasn't a little food poisoning or a gallbladder attack? Sounds similar to one I had some years ago...glad you're feeling better, anyway! I hate "that feeling", too!
I'm going to start looking for ginger capsules..

Is it okay to just nibble fresh ginger pieces? Or cooked ginger?

Great thread! I haven't matched all my reactions with their avoids, yet, but here are some I've figured out...
Cheating alot on BTD makes me stupid and sick

Benadryl gives me restless leg syndrome, bigtime

Cheese, ice cream give me zits 3-4 days later

Corn oil & syrup is trying to kill me. I get post nasal drip, sore throats, leading to colds & bronchitis - this just happened yesterday, tho I knew it bothered me. Now that I'm being gooder the avoids are being badder
Grains may be giving me postnasal youknow
I think chickpeas/garbanzos or something in the hummus I got is giving me sharp pains in tummy area, then gas & cramps, then fine again...
dairy - postnasal drip, cramps
too much chicken skin with fat - pain, cramping - gallbladder situation, I think..
too much chicken or corn- bad sinuses, PND again, eventual cold/respiratory illness
a few years ago lasagna gave me wicked gut cramps & nausea - probably the wheat & ricotta cheese combined w/rocky gallbladder
have gotten those little tongue blisters(name?) from walnuts, raw carrots, bananas, but not in a long time, will re-test for current responses
But I always feel good after I eat beef!
wheat pastries used to give me bronchitis & yeast & bladder infections
being mostly very good for 5 weeks, now, I feel SO MUCH BETTER!!!
I realized I've hardly taken any of the scrip & OTC meds I LIVED on every day, this last 5 weeks! Wow! And only 1 gut attack in 5 weeks, and one miserable day (yesterday) from cheating. What a difference! I look forward to figuring out all my causes and effects, & this thread is a huge help in recognising relationships! Thanks, everybody!


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Oh, and my joints don't hurt anymore, for the most part, but I BTD'd with both feet, all at once, so I don't know what I gave up that hurt the joints!


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do you take deflect to help flush out all those toxins??

BTD is antiinflammatory remember?
so practically all avoids will hurt your joints, specially night shades, and dairy as well as wheat and corn.....and and and......)


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Lola, the only supp's I've been taking (some are not supp's, I guess) are folic acid, a chewable Centrum(all-in-one type vit), B-complex & a week ago back on Prozac after 3 weeks off. No other things at the moment, tho I do sneak sips out of the blackstrap molasses bottle! $'s been tight, my next expenditure will be a secretor test soon as I can.
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This is really interesting to read everyone's experinces. For me it is always bad, bad, bad acid reflux with tomato products of any kind, It is even worse now that I am pregnant! So I must work harder to avoid the avoids....

For my partner, who is still learning, he is an A like me and still tries to drink OJ. In fact he had some yesterday and was sick all day with sour stomach, reflux, & pains......not to mention it was from Mc Donalds....Poor guy he said he learned his lesson & won't touch Mc D's again!  


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. See my thread called Hives in the Encyclopedia Forum.
Best of luck. Jenny


Jenny, I don't see your thread over there. Perhaps it was moved? I'd like to read it.

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Molly mentioned she was told by her ND to take apple cider vinegar.......
lemon juice first thing in the morning, in a cup of warm water is advised for As,
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Molly is an O.  Does it work the same for O's for digestion?




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Missy, this wasn't a little food poisoning or a gallbladder attack? Sounds similar to one I had some years ago...glad you're feeling better, anyway! I hate "that feeling", too!

OSuzanna - don't have a gallbladder anymore so I'm pretty sure it wasn't a gallbladder attacked. They took this out some 6 years ago when I had a similar issue thinking the same thing. Found out later that I still had these problems and we realize that it was food related. Also, the butter was organic and freshly purchased. Today I feel a lot better so I don't think it was food poisoning. Thank goodness.

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Is it okay to just nibble fresh ginger pieces? Or cooked ginger?


I'm still developing a taste for ginger but I'm sure nibbling on fresh ginger pieces would work quite the same. For me the capsules work because I don't have to taste it.    Hopefully I will develop a taste soon.  



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fresh ginger can get HOT!!!!!  watch it! )


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candied ginger is great if you can have any suger....
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Jenny, I don't see your thread over there. Perhaps it was moved? I'd like to read it.





No, I can't find it either. The last entry would have been about mid February I think, and it has dissolved into the ether. Anyway the story was that for about 3 months I was struggling with hives (which I've had on and off all my life). In childhood it was rumoured that it might be peanut butter. Later on I suspected mushrooms. Finally I started a daily food diary which helped me nail a few myths. After a couple of quite troubling months (weals coming up every day in different places, sometimes even on the mouth), a nurse mentioned the word sulphur. this was in relation to white wine and eggs. I then ordered and received the new Allergy book, and was gobsmacked to read page 99 and 100 which implicated sulphites in a big way. I then really started reading labels seriously. And within days knew that it was the preservative 202 and all the other 200s that were most suspect. Not that I used much processed food. But over Christmas there are always parties (champagne) and processed goodies. (Just a tiny bit of this can't hurt me!) Even ready made sandwiches in a salad bar had a preservative label on it when I looked hard enough.
So since then I haven't had any major trouble, just the odd tiny weal which I can always relate back to a sulphurated food (apricots are usually a problem) or a bit of a commercial product. I also found it important to fastidiously wash fresh fruit as I think that sometimes they may be sprayed with a weak preservative to keep them looking good. It was a combination of the daily diary and the Allergy book that resolved my life long problem. Thanks Dr D. and to everyone here who helped me.
Oh yes one more item, I started taking a mineral supplement with molybdenum in it as there is a possibility that some people lack this and it is necessary in sulphur processing.
This would have to be the longest gasbagging I've done here. Hope it answered some of your questions Italybound.
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Lola, I already learned the hot ginger lesson , so that's why I used the term "nibble", coz that's how I eat it, when I've used it in a recipe. I used to eat the pickled ginger regularly in sushi bars, but haven't been yet since I started BTDing. Looking forward to salmon  & tuna sashimi, tho. My mouth just watered, typing this!!


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Hi, Regarding Ginger in pill form, I read somewhere taking it with meals will help one thing and taking it inbetween meals will help in another way.  I think inbetween meals was for inflammation pain.  Does this have to do with where the pill dissolves?
  My Wal Marts started having organic lemons and I always have them in the refrig.  Is there any test that would show the amount of acid in my stomach/digestion juices?  Since the ND said as you get older your system changes and the acid decreases it made me think that I'd like to know now what it so I'd be able to recognize if it is decreasing.
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Hi, Regarding Ginger in pill form, I read somewhere taking it with meals will help one thing and taking it inbetween meals will help in another way.  I think inbetween meals was for inflammation pain.  Does this have to do with where the pill dissolves?  Molly


Molly, I have not heard that about ginger. I have heard that bromelain will help with inflammation pain if taken on an empty stomach and is good with digestion if taken with meals.


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I used to eat the pickled ginger regularly in sushi bars, but haven't been yet since I started BTDing. Looking forward to salmon  & tuna sashimi, tho. My mouth just watered, typing this!!


Oh, Suzanna  I know the feelin'................ my mouth waters too just thinking about it. Every time I get the sushi w/ the ginger at WF's, I swear I'm going to swear off it. Then about 2 mths later, I'm gettin' it again. I love the pickled ginger, tho I know I really shouldn't. But sometimes.................
WF also has something called Dolmas. They are spiced (not spic-y) rice wrapped in grape leaves, I believe. I think they're cooked or whatever they do to them in olive oil. I heat 2 in the micro for 30 seconds. They are super yummy. Super expensive too, but oh so worth it. I bought some of each yesterday and had some of each for lunch today. Just a little slice of heaven.

KK, where do you buy juiced ginger? Does WF have it? I really like ginger, but never thought of cooking it in w/ my beef. Would love to give that a try.



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WF also has something called Dolmas. They are spiced (not spic-y) rice wrapped in grape leaves, I believe. I think they're cooked or whatever they do to them in olive oil.

KK, where do you buy juiced ginger? Does WF have it?

WF sells juiced ginger in the Asian foods section. Trader Joe's sells Dolmas, too. Rice, olive oil, lemon juice, and a whole lotta yum.



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WF sells juiced ginger in the Asian foods section. Trader Joe's sells Dolmas, too. Rice, olive oil, lemon juice, and a whole lotta yum.


Does TJ have Dolmas all the time?  Just curious as some have said they only carry some things until they, basically, run out. I guess, like discontinued items, maybe???  Anyhow, I'll be checkin' that out. Thanks for the tip.   And about the ginger juice info.



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TJ's has had dolmas for the last two years...at least. They are usually in with the canned beans/veggies...


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they're canned?



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Yes, they are canned, but oh so good.


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Has anyone found anything like a sort of fast-acting counter-effect thing for some of the avoid problems, or do you just have to let the avoid run its course thru your system?

For example, if I've had something that gives heartburn, a bit of baking soda in a glass of water will usually ease that. The stuffy nose seems to go away on its own in a few hours, but the tired, run-down, drained effect, I have no idea what to do for. Nutritional yeast is supposed to be a pick-me-up, right? Haven't had much luck.

Anyway, have others found specific fix-its for specific problems, other than the obvious, to AVOID THE AVOID?
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deflect seems to help heal your gut and works as a shield for those avoids that might slip in
once in a while.


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Hi,  Recently I've gotten the Deflect product that Dr D has and its helped.  Last week I had a couple of bits of cornish hen and hadn't had the Deflect pill at any of my meals and did I have a headache and the next day the inside of my nose was dry(not normal.)  I'm sure if  I had taken that pill my system wouldn't have reacted so severly.  Otherwise, before I'd take whatever product was for that system, like an extra strenght tylenol and I'd drink lots of water.   I am not part of the Dr's staff but happy that I found BD.
Molly


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Has anyone found anything like a sort of fast-acting counter-effect thing for some of the avoid problems, or do you just have to let the avoid run its course thru your system?

For example, if I've had something that gives heartburn, a bit of baking soda in a glass of water will usually ease that. The stuffy nose seems to go away on its own in a few hours, but the tired, run-down, drained effect, I have no idea what to do for. Nutritional yeast is supposed to be a pick-me-up, right? Haven't had much luck.

Anyway, have others found specific fix-its for specific problems, other than the obvious, to AVOID THE AVOID?



I don't try to mask any of the avoids.  By doing so, I may feel inclined to have such foods more often, and that's of no long-term benefit to me.  By suffering the consequences each time, it continues to remind me why I don't indulge in the avoids too often.  As far as the tired, run-down, drained effect, I try to only consume those foods towards the end of the day, when I know that I have nothing on my schedule.  Every once in awhile, I get the urge for a very non-compliant pizza, and breadsticks.  I make sure to only have it when I know that I'm in for the evening.  Helps to put me to sleep later on, and the Clan O'Kitties get some one on one time, since I'm temporarily disabled on the couch.    I get to satisfy the occasional urge, and they get spoiled.  Win-win all around!


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