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slyparrot
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OK.  Most of us if not all of us have noticed specific problems caused by eating specific avoids.  What I am looking for is specific information…….cause and effect.  What happens after a specific avoid?

After I clear my system of the Holiday Avoids, I will eat just one avoid at a time to see which does what.  I suspect dairy for the headaches/migraines but don’t know if it is a specific dairy, all dairy or even dairy at all.  I also suspect dairy for itchy skin and dry sticky throat.

In the meantime, what happens to everyone else?


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OK.  Most of us if not all of us have noticed specific problems caused by eating specific avoids.  What I am looking for is specific information…….cause and effect.  What happens after a specific avoid?

After I clear my system of the Holiday Avoids, I will eat just one avoid at a time to see which does what.  I suspect dairy for the headaches/migraines but don’t know if it is a specific dairy, all dairy or even dairy at all.  I also suspect dairy for itchy skin and dry sticky throat.

In the meantime, what happens to everyone else?


I get a rash when I eat safflower oil.

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I get tired and fatigued with grains.  I get a runny nose with milk products  and stomach pain sometimes.  My muscle ache when I eat alkaline fruit like oranges.  
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where to begin.

I always get stomach issues and diarrhea, I get diarrhea when I turn around to fast so.........

Dairy makes me achy
avoid fruits and veggies make my stomach acidy
grains make me tired
avoid meats make me gassy



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slyparrot.  A reaction may not be noticed each and every time you eat an avoid.  You may have to eat that avoid more than once to actually notice something specific.  And then it will take time to get that out of your system and you should take the time to do so before moving on to another avoid.  Remember to take DEFLECT!  Sometimes eating avoids just makes you "not feel well" even though you can't put your finger on any actual symptoms.  I get tired if I don't eat right.  And then, of course, are the effects that you just cannot see or feel.

I've seen everything from intestinal disturbance to Acne from eating avoids, mostly in my type O daughters.  It's amazing to me though, after being on the diet for so long, just how little of something naughty it takes to make me feel unwell (or how horrible some avoids taste now) but yet before BTD, I didn't notice they made me sick.

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As Laura P said "where to begin"...

Wheat makes me snuffly, makes my joints ache, and makes me puffy
Dairy makes me mucusy and makes my face puffy
Corn, especially if combined with beans, is pure evil- tired, joints achy, face and   body puffy beyond belief, but the worst is the emotional rage it brings about!  Talk about toxic emotions!  Yikes!
All grains make me constipated and tired
Sugar makes me moody and makes me need more, More, MORE SUGAR!!!
Coffee and black tea make my skin itch, especially at night

What a list.  So why do I think it's ok for me to eat these things?  Am I a slow learner or what?


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If I consume a lot of sugar or honey I actually start to get the symptoms of a cold.  Wheat and dairy I haven't eaten in years so I can't remember what effect they had on me.   Not sure if tofu is an avoid for me or not but eating it used to make me want to puke.  Miso paste used to make me bloat up like a balloon, but that may have been the high salt content.  Grains, even Essene bread, makes me want to puke.  

Strangely grains constipated me and eating red meat keeps me really regular. Since introducing red meat I am having 3 bowel movements a day.


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avoids create inflammation in general.

my metabolism gets sluggish and I retain lots of liquid!
not a good thing to live with.)


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yes, I retain fluid, and get constipated, sometimes heartburn,



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Pork products and orange juice give me heartburn.

Wheat products make me have a fair-sized energy crash.

Dairy products give me a stuffy nose.

Too much sugar, and I'll have an acne outbreak around my neck.

Aspartame removes all possibility of me getting a good nights sleep.  I usually toss and turn for a good part of the night.  Which is a shame, because I like Fresca.

I don't know what the cafeteria here at the hospital uses for ingredients, but they make a purely evil brownie.  If I consume one of the brownies, within 45 minutes, I will have a hellacious energy crash.  It's so bad, that it creates a burning sensation around my eyes, and just sucks the life out of me.  After the worst of it, it takes about an hour before I regain some energy, and come out of my mental fog.

Dairy + Wheat = Pizza = a bloated energy crash, and constipation for a few days.  Had an urge for a pizza on Thursday, and I'm just now feeling right again.  Well, some would say that I've never been 'right'.   At least not in the head.


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Actually the cleaner you get ...the more they will make you crash..Its healthier to eat right but you become very sensitive to the wrong foods. Price ya pay....Jayney-0
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Wheat & Corn make my joints ache BIG TIME.  I had gotten myself into a terrible place; too much wheat and popcorn, from going to the movies.

I finally went on the Arthritis program.  For the first week, I had nothing but Super Beneficials & Beneficials.

By day four, my joint pain had completely disappeared.  By day 8 still on the all super & beneficials and WHAM!!!  I had been blown over by a hum dinger of a flu bug.  I'm still down with THAT; it's now day 10.  I can't seem to get rid of the congestion in my lungs or the yellow/white snot c**p in my sinuses.

I've slowly added in a few Infrequent neutrals to my diet, but for the most part, my diet is still 80% Super Beneficials & Beneficials.  My joints are still doing pretty good, but man I want to bury this flu!



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I don't know what the cafeteria here at the hospital uses for ingredients, but they make a purely evil brownie.


A friend of mine makes very tasty brownies (from a mix) that give me sort of a cross between a charley horse and restless-leg syndrome.  I get a cramp in one calf muscle, and have to walk it off.  I finally stopped eating those brownies!  (Then I moved to another state.)

Back before I realized that I'm allergic to beef/milk protein, eating beef used to give me diarrhea.  Either beef or cow milk would make me woozy.


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This is kind of fun...  

All avoids = bloating, distended stomach, sleepiness

Potatoes:
- inflammation, aches in my knees/hips/elbows, headaches
- diarrhea
- spacy feeling, can't concentrate, can sit a do nothing for a long time!

Wheat:
- wicked mood swings (especially when combined with sugar)
- sleepiness

Sugar:
- wicked mood swings (especially when combined with wheat)
- sore throat
- headaches
- acne

Dairy:
- nausea

Corn:
- hives, itchiness, especially around joints


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Wow!  This is going to help me do the process of elimination.  Wheat is a suspect of joint pain and instant weight gain/puffyness for me and reading the other posts here is making it look even more guilty!

One of the Holiday Avoids also gave emotional rage (I think) but no corn was in anything I ate.  Hmmm....What did it?

Coconut oil is a suspect for itchy, red bumps on skin.  It has happened 4 times after eating it!

Yes, Janey-O, I am very sensitive now!

Jill the Pill, Yes, troubleshooting everything down to the nitty-gritty will take some (one-at-a-time) trial, and cleaning myself out in between will be a miserable thing but I want to know!


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A friend of mine makes very tasty brownies (from a mix) that give me sort of a cross between a charley horse and restless-leg syndrome.  I get a cramp in one calf muscle, and have to walk it off.  I finally stopped eating those brownies!  (Then I moved to another state.)


Wow    Had to move out of state, just to get away from the temptation?    

Isn't it great, being so in tune with our bodys, that we instantly know when we've consumed avoids?  While it's certainly no fun going through the repercussions, it just gives us incentive to take better care of ourselves each and every day.  

Remember what it was like, going through life in a mental fog, and not even being in touch with your body?   Nahhh....I don't care to remember either.  This life is SO much better.  


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Oranges & Tomatoes: Rough dry itchy patches near my mouth.  Itchy watery eyes.  Horrific stomach ache

Potatoes: Feels like all of the moisture has been sucked from my body.  I get very bloated and terribly achy joints

Peppers: Itchy skin, the worst gastric reflex...even with just a little bit.

Sulfates/ites in my shamoo: Really bad psorisis.  


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[quote=Olerica]Oranges & Tomatoes: Rough dry itchy patches near my mouth.  

Peppers: Itchy skin, the worst gastric reflex...even with just a little bit.

I have the exact same reactions



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Okay, let's see . . .

Wheat: panic/anxiety attacks after eating even a small amount, as well as continual low-level anxiety and pms-like mood swings, water retention, pain in lower legs, racing heart, extreme thirst, joint pain, extreme fatigue

Corn/grains in general: joint pain, headaches, inability to concentrate, inability to articulate words or type, water retention and extreme thirst, extreme fatigue

Legumes: gas and bloating, fatigue, itchy skin

Potatoes/avoid vegetables: joint pain, spaciness, bloating and gas, acid stomach, itchy skin

Avoid fruits, especially citrus: acid reflux, skin rash, gas, diarrhea

Dairy: stuffy sinuses and nose, acid reflux, fatigue


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Sulfates/ites in my shamoo: Really bad psorisis.  


Couldn't agree with you more.  I had eczema from beinbg a newborn baby until hte day I threw out every product I had that contained suflates.  Within a few days of not using sulfates, my eczema had gone forever!!! I realized that even the baby shampoos and baby bubble bath contains sodium lauryl sulfate.  Nearly everything contains it, even toothpaste.    I am so glad that I don't let this stuff anywhere near me anymore.



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Wow!  This is going to help me do the process of elimination.  Wheat is a suspect of joint pain and instant weight gain/puffyness for me and reading the other posts here is making it look even more guilty!


Here's some interesting information for you about fibromyalgia (muscle pain) from Dr. Peter's Encyclopedia:
(Bolding emphasis mine.)

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Blood group O is highly susceptible to fibromyalgia, especially with consumption of wheat. Wheat germ lectins exacerbate the tendency for HYPERIMMUNITY, which is a characteristic of AUTOIMMUNE DISEASES. Of the foods known to induce joint INFLAMMATION, grains certainly top the list. In some cases, avoidance of grains is the only dietary maneuver required, especially in the early stages. Our most common grains contain lectins, and many of these lectins are specifically attracted to the sugars that are found abundantly in connective tissues, particularly N-acetyl glucosamine (NAG). Wheat germ lectin, in particular, has an affinity for NAG.


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I have the book.....what's the page number?

I still have geographic tongue that pops up every now and then, even on a full compliance level.  Maybe I'm overlooking something.  It's not unbearable like it used to be but I'd like to find out what is causing it!  Does anyone else have geographic tongue?

Some of the comments listed above used to fit me perfectly.  Why do we go off the diet when we know what will happen?  I was sooooo good before the holidays!  Back on track now and thankful!

Everytime I look at an avoid, I will think.....If I eat this......this will happen!  Maybe it will stop me in my tracks in the future!  Ha-Ha.  


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OK.  Most of us if not all of us have noticed specific problems caused by eating specific avoids.  What I am looking for is specific information…….cause and effect.  What happens after a specific avoid?

After I clear my system of the Holiday Avoids, I will eat just one avoid at a time to see which does what.  I suspect dairy for the headaches/migraines but don’t know if it is a specific dairy, all dairy or even dairy at all.  I also suspect dairy for itchy skin and dry sticky throat.

In the meantime, what happens to everyone else?

Slyparrot, I admire your scientific zeal in putting your body through this experiment but I would prefer to believe the BTD and simply avoid the avoids. I have enough trouble with intolerance to things that should be beneficial to me to want to voluntarily put myself through any more trouble than is necessary.
Cheers,
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Hi Slyparrot

It’s only my third day on the diet but I can tell you some things I noticed before I became aware of blood type beneficial and avoids, etc..  

I never really thought I had any serious problems with foods until I became more aware of what avoids are and finally started to put two and two together.  My only real regret was that time I was approached by a mascot character person who was dressed as a large ice cream cone.  This character kept bumping into me and I eventually found it a bit annoying.  So I informed this person that, “hey, I’m lactose intolerant”.  Just as I was chuckling to myself at my semi-clever line, I saw the mascot remove her cone head and she was quite the babe!  Boy did I blow that one.

Anyway, I’m lactose intolerant.  When I eat wheat tortillas I get congestion in my throat and have to clear it.  When I drink O.J. I get a sour stomach, same with pickles so I didn’t eat them.  Finally while I don’t think it’s an avoid, when I eat bananas my throat and tongue itch.  Which makes me start imagining anaphlactic shock, so I don’t eat bananas either.  I guess that’s probably more than you care to know, but those are my reactions and I’m sticking to them.  Actually not anymore since I’ve found this diet!
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Finally while I don’t think it’s an avoid, when I eat bananas my throat and tongue itch.  Which makes me start imagining anaphlactic shock, so I don’t eat bananas either.  


I couldn't eat bananas from my 13th age (1966) onwards, until the end of my first year into the BTD (2000). I had similar reaction to what you encounter, but a lot stronger, I could hardly breathe even if I had only a bite. Now I can eat two in a row without any adverse reaction. There is a chance that you may eat them without a problem after a good while following the BTD

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