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Yes, B's, we're deep into this subject on the "B and Weight Loss" thread.  But I think Dairy is an important part of the diet of every B, not just those who are "battling" excess weight.

I just googled "milk", "whole milk", "cream" with "nutrition", "diet".... There are actually Anti-Milk sites...

Most nutritional/diet sites laud "fat-free" and "reduced fat" dairy products.

I want to say that I'm not only losing weight enjoying some full-fat, i.e., whole dairy every single day, but... I think I'm happier.  I'm just more even-keeled, on a higher level.  And it doesn't have anything to do with what's going on in my life which is very, very insane right now.

Full fat dairy, i.e. with the cream on top, is a very satisfying, perhaps slower-digesting, food, and uplifting to my psyche.  I just say, "MMMMM" when I get that creamy hit.

And, yes, the pants continue to fall down.  For now, I'll use the belt, but soon I'll be back in former (smaller-sized) pants altogether!


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Earlier today I was at an outdoor festival, where there was a booth where Great Arabic Coffee/Tea beverages were being made. áAnd they pride themselves on offering "heavy whipping cream" as an option in the beverage.

So I ordered the strongest Turkish-style coffee they had, and I asked for the Cream in it. áAnd with great dramatic flourish the guy was pouring out of this "heavy whipping cream" carton the white liquid into my cup, and I said,

"Excuse me, but that's not 'Heavy Whipping Cream' in there. áIt's diluted. áAnd I know because I pour the Real Thing into my food several times a week". áThe stuff was bubbly/aerated, and had none of that unctuous magnificent splendour that has brought me to the verge of smaller pants sizes of late.

Well, I walked away with my $3. coffee (lovely because of the cardamom). áBut I know the Real Thing, and, B's, we are Entitled to It.

Milk. áCream. Accept nothing less! áYeah!

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Yes - I agree - you B's are soooo lucky to be able to enjoy dairy freely - my husband is a B and we just found out - makes me miss it a lot knowing he can have it and do well with it. áB's are the people those dairy commercials were made for where they say to have 3 servings a day to help you lose weight. áOh well - I guess we work with the type we have because as long as I avoid dairy (and wheat too of course) then I keep having to buy smaller and smaller clothes. áThis weekend I even bought a pair of size 6 jeans - I haven't been in a size 6 since high school - I was shocked and amazed. áI had a size 8 on and they felt a little big so I just decided what the heck I'll try the 6's on to see how much farther I have to go before they will fit and no problem. áA year ago I would not have been able to fit these jeans over my thighs much less get them zipped and buttoned and feel great in them!! áBTD is my way to eat for life!!!


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Owning one's d-galactosamine inheritance is the best thing a B can choose to do for him/her health via nutrition, I believe I'm finding.

I've said I believe it's mood-balancing as well, and I want to elaborate on that right here.

I've had the kind of couple of days that just...throw one for a loop.  Very, very difficult goings-on.  Actually "traumatic" and "dramatic" and, even potentially "tragic" come to mind.

I must of course pay homage to the God Who keeps me, but I've also had a certain sense of emotional comfort/strength/centeredness;  it's the same feeling I get from the full-fat dairy foods more directly, so I'm tentatively here saying that I think full fat dairy may very well be, scientifically, the "comfort food" it is reputed more casually to be, specifically for the B.

I'm just making friends with my Blood Type Sugar, my antigen.  I'm giving it lots of strokes and encouragement with the dairy I most enjoy.

The weight loss, actually, is a bonus.  And I do need to lose weight, so ... it's a Good Thing.


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B friends:

I would be incredibly gratified to read any stories of similar enjoyment of full fat dairy.  Help me here.  There are so many threads going re: weight loss, satiety, yogurt, etc.  They're all crossing paths.  But this is the one with the Specific Title.

Please indulge me here.  Have any of you had this epiphany?  When? How?
Kristin, you mentioned digging the full fat dairy.  Did you always?  Did you leave it and come back to it?

Ellie, newhampshiregirl, henriettebsec:  Hello out there!

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Friends from "B and Individuality II":  Tell your Dairy stories!  I want to know if any of you experienced a conversion from fractionated milk/yogurt (aka: Reduced-Fat or Skim) to Whole Milk, Cream, Sour Cream, Cottage Cheese, Whole Mozzarella, etc.

And, if so:  "Was it good for you too?"


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re: full-fat dairy

When I started eating yogurt consistently many years ago, I always chose the whole milk brands. Also ate sour cream, kefir cheese, rarely any reduced fat cheeses.

But for milk I would buy the 2% brand as whole milk seemed to spoil quickly. I have since come to realize that whole milk keeps about the same length of time as other milks and now purchase whole milk too.

I did try the Fage Greek style yogurt. It is so incredibly rich that I can't use it like I would other yogurts. But it is nice as a kind of spread on manna bread.


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I hear you, Kristin, about the richness of the Greek yogurt.  And, indeed, I don't find myself using it in an "everyday" sort of way as I do the thinner stuff.  I, too, spread it on manna bread.  Try it with your favorite herbs.  I like infusing all my yogurts with herbs, including our Friend Parsley.

There's this wonderful mixture sold as "Yogurt Spices" in a spice jar.  I get it at Cost Plus.  Mix it in with your regular yogurt and let it sit in the fridge -- overnight, whatever.  And you end up with a lovely Raita, if you like that, which I sure do.


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What are the yogurt spices?


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don t your spices have ascorbic acid in the mix?

you are lucky if they don t contain avoids! )

another way to do it, is dehydrating all of your beneficial spices, you want to add to your yogurt and grind them into powder yourself.


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I will check the ingredients later today and get back to y'all soon.

Of course I also make a variety of raitas on my own.  I just thought I'd suggest this to those of you who may not have the time or be handy in the kitchen.

Last night I converted one of my refrigerated raita-type concoctions into a salad dressing by adding olive oil and a sheep/goat cheese to it.  It was heavenly.

More to follow...


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Okay, my contribution to this thread is this:  For about 10 years I drank skim milk and used low-fat products.  I didn't like it but thought it was good for me.  Lately, I have been thinking about what I ate and drank as a young girl and I was always slim and I had whole, unhomogenized milk and ate the fat on meat, just didn't eat a lot.  Well, fat fills you up, that's what!  Now, I've gone back to whole, unhomogenized milk, whole milk yogurt, eating some fat on meat and it makes me feel fulfilled.  I've changed to soup for lunch along with whole milk yogurt and raw egg in my morning cocktail and I'm actually losing weight.  I feel much happier, now.  
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Hello, friends.
Something is going right, and it's in the area of my diet.

I have been eating whole dairy: Milk, cream, cott. chs., mascarpone, sour cream, etc. etc. plus plenty of cheese, including paneer, and enjoying it immensely.

I checked my weight on Labor Day to see if, among other things, this way of living would affect my weight.

Well, here it is, October 1st, and I weighed myself this morning to find I weigh exactly TEN POUNDS less than I did on Labor Day (Sept. 5th). áAnd the food is better than ever. á

Enjoy it, B's. áAnd who knows? áWhole, as opposed to fractionated, dairy may indeed be the way to go for the other types too, vis-a-vis what little dairy they do eat.

ADDITIONAL NOTE FOR lola:  There are no avoids in the yogurt spices you asked about.  There is also no citric acid in it.  


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I definitely, absolutely consider dairy to be my comfort food, and the dairy fat is part of what makes it work.  I am minimizing cows' milk because it seems to give me gas.  However, I eat full-fat sheep's Feta, full-fat Goat's milk Chevrie, full-fat Goat milk yogurt, plus I happily consume Ghee everyday.

When I used only low-fat dairy products....fat-free yogurt and 2% milk, I wore a size 12.  I am now a small size 8, with some clothes being size 6.

Full-fat dairy takes care of my other cravings.  I don't miss sugar, wheat or coffee.  But if I don't eat at least a little dairy everyday, I feel an emptiness....not just in my tummy, but also an emotional gap that needs filling.  It's an important part of my wellness program.



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OK The Yogurt Spices are put out by a company called "Neera's", out of Prescott, Arizone.


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Full fat milk vs low fat milk
I was wondering if it was some kind of politically correctness that made Doc Dadamo reccomend low fat dairy in his books- I only got erfybaby here; page 175  low fat dairy....?!- but in all books it says low fat!

I hate low fat yoghurt- I rather go without it. I think we eat rather less dairy than a lot of  "normal people" so it is not a problem to do the full fat version. However i prefer 1,5 % milk when I drink milk maybe because it is jersey? - but in coffee  3 % milk  is nice I havn┤t had it since I was a kidf .


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My Whole Foods Market only has Kefir which is low fat.  So I'll finish this my last bottle, and switch to fullfat yogurt for my blender drinks.


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I'm kind of angry about all the anti-milk stuff out there , but even moreso about the "low-fat" emphasis, now that the non-fractionated dairy thing is turning out to be so amazingly beneficial for my health, as well as for that of some of you, judging from the good results you're also having.

Yes, Dr. D. is also squarely in the Low-Fat dairy camp.  What can I say?  


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Oh, also:  If you can't find Paneer, if you don't have an Indian grocery, I've found that certain hard ricottas (i.e., not the stuff you scoop out of a container) have that "grillable" characteristic, for much much less money than the Greek Halloumi which has the same.


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I have a few questions, I have read notmilk.com and I personally feel that milk cannot be natural for humans to drink, why else would our production of lactase enzymes decline as we age? But i also find that i lose weight if i consume dairy and as a B i wonder if dairy is somehow different for only us? I get heartburn if i drink milk or yogurt because of the lactose, but cheese i do alright with, what should I do. I have gluten intollerance and have been tested for casein intollerance (by enterolab) and it came back that I do have an intollerance for casein, so I can't decide whether to give up dairy for good, any ideas?
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What forms of dairy have you tried?


If only cow's milk products, perhaps experimenting with goat and sheep's milk dairy.


Your secretor status plays a role in how much and what types of dairy work best for you too.

And.... welcome aboard, hitch! There's several B threads floating around and of course lots of great info on other threads too.

Enjoy!



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Here is my situation, I am a secretor, but I've had very bad digestive issues for the last few years. As I said i was tested by enterolab and came back with scores of 25 anitbodies for casein and gluten where anything above 1o shows an intollerance. I can't decide if cow's dairy is good for humans, but I can tell i feel different and maybe better the day after eating some, but I don't digest milk and lactose well but do better with cheese. I have the main gene for celiac, so I believe i must have it, even though my intestine looked fine during endoscopy and my blood test came back negative. So I'm undecided on what to do about dairy, if you read notmilk.com and some other place you will think dairy isn't good for humans. I've tried a little goat cheese, I probably do better with it, but I still don't know, is it wise to eat dairy if it shows i have an intollerance for it?
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