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zola
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Would you all come to my restaurant with Blood Type Diet menus? This is a fantasy I'd like to make into reality one day

If you have any suggestions on how to make this work please let me know. I plan on baking with spelt since that seems to work for the masses, clarified butter and olive oil (can handle higher smoke points), and green tea will come to your table unless you order something else.

I'm seriously taking suggestions.

I have a degree in culinary arts and have worked from Alaska to the Carribbean as a sous chef, pastry chef, garde manger, saute cook, pantry cook, baker (and wedding cake maker) and produce worker for the last twelve years.

I also graduated with a Bachelors of Science in Nursing this year.
Please post all serious suggestions and insights.


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How marvelous that you are seriously considering starting a BTD-oriented restaurant!!!  This is an idea that was often discussed with passion and enthusiasm on the old message board.  To my knowledge, there are no BTD-oriented restaurants as of yet, although it seems to me someone has posted in the past or blogged about a restaurant that has one or two items that are listed as BTD-friendly, which in and of itself is amazing and encouraging!  While I haven't come across a BTD restaurant, I have read about a spa that has a BTD-oriented ownership and the kitchen will accomodate BTDers (I'll try to find the link and post it here).  I do have one suggestion for you:  I suggest baking with a flour other than spelt, such as rice flour.  Spelt does not really "work for the masses".  Spelt is an avoid for non-secretors and even some secretors have trouble with it.  That is the tame/mild version of my opinion on spelt!  I won't say any more because I think my opinion is in the minority.


I just feel that, if you are going to do the BTD restaurant thing, it would be ideal to use a flour like rice flour that everyone can enjoy.  Ideally, you might even try to hunt down a sweet potato flour (some Asian stores apparently carry this) to use in certain recipes, and then you could proudly display "grain-free!" by that recipe!

P.S.  You could make some things with spelt if you like, as apparently it does bake well, but my suggestion is just, for baked goods at your restaurant, that the majority of them be made with rice flour.  You could have some with spelt, but have the majority of choices be spelt-free for those of us who cannot do the spelt thing.


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This was a thread topic  a while back and prompted this blog on the subject:

http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/k/archives/00000045.htm

I think spelt is an avoid for Type B, but would work for a great majority of people.  I would love to go to a BTD restaurant.  I know they exist, but I haven't found one yet on my travels or locally.  I wish you great success!


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P.S.  Zola!  Extreme excitement!  Found the info on the BTD-oriented spa, check it out!  I read about this a year or two ago and was soooooooooooo tempted to go!!!  Still am!  Still might!

http://www.evranch.com/healthyliving_eating.asp
(Describes their strong BTD orientation.)

http://www.evranch.com/food.asp
(Describes their food, including wild-picked local berries and fresh meats they raise themselves...AND water from one of their FIVE springs!!!...when can we leave to go there?)


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Spelt is neutral for B's, unless of course, there are gluten issues.



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Dang! That is some spa! I live in eastern Washington (not far all things considered). Now to convince the man to go....
We could swing it by the spring...he he........There really is heaven on earth!


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Zola,
I'm happy to hear of your dreams.  I'm in a hurry right now, but I'll stop back later and join in on the ideas.



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Dang! That is some spa! I live in eastern Washington (not far all things considered). Now to convince the man to go....
We could swing it by the spring...he he........There really is heaven on earth!

Doesn't it just sound like heaven on earth?  I mean, the setting (Canada, mountains, forest, fresh air, THE NORTH), the food, the Thai massage!  I am so THERE!

I really might go there one day...at this point, since I can't do winter anymore, it would probably have to be NEXT summer, but what better time to start planning a vakay for next summer than right this moment?  Fly in the ointment is my sis and BIL always make their plans to come down to FL and only AFTER their plans are set in stone do they deign to inform little old me, so it is like expected that I will just be here.  Wonder what would happen if I said "Sorry, I have a Thai massage scheduled in Canada for part of that time!"  They always come for, like, a MONTH in the summer (   ), so there is no lucky chance of missing them entirely, drat it, but maybe I could actually have to say, ooooh, DARN ( ), I'll be hiking through the Canadian wilderness and will have to miss the first two weeks of family dysfunction and going out to eat avoids...darn the luck!



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I say we all make a trip of it.  It could be some sort of reunion, how fun huh?  We could coordinate ER4UT bake sales in our cities to raise the funds



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Quoted from Victoria

Spelt is neutral for B's, unless of course, there are gluten issues.



Thanks, I was thinking of kamut.  My daughter-in-law is B and I don't know her diet so well.


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Spelt as a grain, is even HB for B's!!
and neutral for B-nonnies.
Indeed spelt flour to make bread and pastry is neutral..

As an A I eat loads of spelt... Make my fave bread with spelt flour, chopped walnuts, linseeds, walnutoil, and instead of sugar, veggly...

Most friends and guests who are 'privileged' to taste my speltbread consider it as pastry...  
I finally got the hang of baking this gorgeous bread... Breadmachines are awesome!!
Cannot imagine my life without this machine..!!

Zola, awesome idea to start a BTD-restaurant, but I live in Europe...

Yaman, we talk about a BTD-Restaurant Chain in Europe next year in Samos!!
With all the expertise of the EU BTD-followers this must be realized!!

Take care and stay all of you!!

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here's an idea for a BTD restaurant name

MANGA GIUSTO


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Dear Mike,

Mangia giusto if it is not a Japanese manga but an Italian BTD restaurant !

Nice to find restaurants and friends who understand BTD basic rules !

Edna, for sure rice flour for me and the others celiacs rules ! Thank you

Maria Giovanna


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Thanks so much for the tip on EV Ranch.

More and more, I sense, BTD is going mainstream.

I was talking to the Cheese Buyer at my local WFM and asked her if she can obtain Paneer, as I have to go to my Indian Grocer for it, a less convenient location. And she said she's had a gazillion requests for it and wonders where it's all coming from... Meanwhile, yes, there's a WFM-approved supplier, someone local.  Certainly it'll be at least twice the price of the Indian stuff, which is terrific.  And Paneer is easy to make at home yourself, too.

I also watch people shop beside me in the store, examine what's being put on the check-out belt before and behind my selections, and, so help me, I see Blood-Type- compliant collections of foodstuffs.  Just the other day I ran into an old Tennis buddy in the Dairy section.  She was buying Kefir and had a basket containing cauliflower and beets.  "Are you B?" I asked her.  "Yes, yes! Are you?" she replied.

So, we're ready for the BTD restaurant.  Chanur shall cook, no?


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I would go to your restaurant for sure - but I would say for you to use rice flour as well in baked goddies if possible - as spelt give this O some problems - I think it's the gluten in it that my body doesn't agree with.  

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That's a great idea. I would go there to eat. Please franchise all over the world so everyone could eat this delicious, healthy, and wonderful food. Just image having a menu divided in to four groups for each blood type and not worrying about ordering an avoid. You could go right to your page in the menu with your diet and order anything you want without hesitation of does this have an ingredient I'm not suppose to eat. It would already be preplanned for you.

This would be a dream come true. Right now my biggest problem with this diet is eating out. I struggle everywhere I go because I don't know what is in stuff. They seem to sneak wheat, corn syrup, dairy, etc. in everything. Please let this dream become a reality.
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I just tried baking with brown rice flour with pretty decent success. I used the Banana Walnut Bread recipe (says for Type O but I made it for A's too) and altered it to have 6 bananas and left the sweetener out. Superripe bananas and rice flour are already pretty sweet. I also added a teaspoon of sea salt and used lola's "baking powder mix" = 1 part baking soda, two parts cream of tartar and 2 parts arrowroot.

They are plenty moist & flavorful, toothsome with nice crunchy walnuts. (I toast them first). If the muffins had a little more sweetener  they'd probably brown a bit better.

Does anyone have any recipes they'd like to see on the menu at the BTD restaurant?

I'm looking for a good ginger molasses chew cookie recipe to try out...


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You might consider giving rice bran oil a try. It's smoke point is 450*F and it's flash is 620*F. I feel that the finished fried products have a better texture and flavor than using olive oil.
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Chanüüüüürli   soooo sorry for our old thread about this thema ...just gone......

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Oh baby,

Just the thought of a ginger molasses cookie makes my mouth water. I am so much a biscuit/cookie person that I could seriously eat nothing else all day. My favourite pasttime has been severely curtailed because it's seems so hard to get good compliant biscuits, and I always have some excuse not to make them myself.

If you make em, I'll buy em.  

There was once a fictitional BTD restaurant called Chez Chanur that was frequented by the Bloody Family. maybe they'll just have to go back for another meal. Do you still employ that Kiwi/French waiter Chanur?

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Hi Zola,

You may want to consider a “fast food BTD restaurant.”

Have you ever been to a sushi place were people sit around a bar with a conveyor belt. Plates pass by of different colours indicating different prices. It is similar to airports where you collect suitcases.

For BTD version; plates have a ring of different colour based on blood type: red for O, blue for A, yellow B and green AB.

You may have: 1 colour line X price; 2 colour lines Y price; 3 Coloured lines Z price. Eg. 1 blue line = dish for A type worth $5; 2 blue lines = dish for A type worth $10…

When it’s bill time just count the number of empty plates per person and consider the number of lines to add the bill. E.g. A person may have had 1 1 line plate + a 2 liner = $15

It would be a good restaurant in a business center, shopping mall or any place were fast food would be convenient.

You do not need much space or many waiters just 1 or 2 in the bar for billing or any special requirements. Maintaining the dishes warm could be an issue.

Even if it is a sophisticated restaurant where people are served at a table you may want to colour the plates differently.

Best of luck with a great idea,


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