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ishy
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I started because a friend of mine had been doing it and she lost about 30 pounds in 6 months and was bouncing of the walls with energy.  She also said that most of her allergies went away and she had to take up running to get rid of excess energy (!).  Another friend of mine adopted a similar diet when her allergist diagnosed her with celiac disease and a corn allergy.

I have always had a lot of allergies, plus fibromyalgia and myofascial pain syndrome for the past 12 years. My brother and I always hated the smell of any corn product, especially popcorn.  In middle school, I was being tested for allergies and the doctor asked my mom if I had any funny reactions to any food, including not liking the smell of them. My mom said that both kids hated the smell of corn, and he tested both of us and we both reacted. In high school, it became clear that I was lactose intolerant, so I stopped drinking milk.

So...when I started talking to these friends, the first friend said, "Ya know...you must have type O blood."  When I asked her how she knew that, she told me about ER4YT.   I tried it for awhile and everything improved.  In the stress of trying to finish my degree I kinda fell off,  but have restarted and I feel much better again. I'm just trying to take it one day at a time now and think about how much better I feel.

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I started because it sounded like the most intelligent, logical way to improve my all ready "healthy" habits.  I was not disappointed.  It changed my life!    I for one will never go back.  


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Hi. I'm new to the diet, and am curious about what made some of you start the BTD.  What are some of the benefits that you've found?

Welcome, Gail!  To read my story click here:
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How do you respond to people who think the BTD is flaky or a fad or unscientific?

The way I respond to people depends on the person I'm responding to.  If they seem open, I will talk with them about what this diet has done for me personally and also discuss/debate the science behind it.  If they seem totally set in stone with their opinion and just wanting to criticize, I have learned to just adopt a zen-like 'tude *lol* and not even waste my energy trying to get through because it is banging your head on a brick wall and who needs that aggro?

I'm just so glad and grateful that I found a diet that really bestows such good health to me and that is sustainable for me.  If someone criticizes it and is not open to hearing anything other than their own opinion, I just smile internally and think about my health and realize that it isn't my job to make anyone understand something or educate them about it if they don't want educating *lol*.
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Are there times when you doubt whether you should follow the diet?  Gail

I've been on it since September of 1997...wow!  I just realized something!  On 9/22/2005 it will be 8 years!  Holy guacamole that is two presidential terms!  Wow...I've been on the diet since back when the USA was recognizable to me!  But I digress.  ANYWAY:  I've been on this thaaang since 1997 and I can honestly say that I've never doubted that it was the right thing for me.  I did go off it once for 8 months (long story), but even then, I never really doubted that I should be on it or that I was a d*mn fool for willfully going off of it.  I just had a "rebel rebel" moment.  And, boy, once I DID go off of it, I sure knew that I should be back ON it!  But once you go over to the "dark side", it is hard to get back to solid ground again.  On the very positive side, I learned a lot during that haitus that really sunk in and that is precious, such as:

1.  Don't do this again, dork.
2.  Compliance = good.  Non-compliance = BAD!
3.  I learned a lot about how to pull yourself back once you get into the grips of carbohydrate addictions run amok.

So, it is all good (except that I've just spent the last few years SINCE then trying to re-lose all the significant amount of weight I had lost and then gained back doing the "rebel rebel" thing), but the short answer to your question is NO, I never doubted that I should be on the BTD.  I have always known that the BTD was right for me.  It is just that I once willfully chose to do what was wrong for me and then, boy howdy, was the point really driven home to me just how wrong NOT being on the BTD is for me!  It was so good for me to go there, in a way, because it was a trip down memory lane into Pre-BTD Land that I never want to take again, yet going there made me know that, ya know?  It made me REALLY appreciate the BTD.  It also made me realize that I don't have much of a choice:  I can either be a carb-addicted fat whale who is unhealthy, has no energy, is in the grips of cravings, and has a personality more volatile than Mount Pinataubo, or I can be a steady-as-she-goes, in balance, healthy person, who will always be addicted to certain carbs but who can be "in recovery", to borrow wording from 12-step programs that really applies here.  I look at me being on the BTD as me being "in recovery".   A dear friend of mine called it my "food sobriety".  And just as an alcoholic never wants to take that first drink and return to some kind of lengthy bender again, I never want to go willfully into Avoid Land again.  Been there, done that.  Got the tee-shirt.


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I started the BTD in order to lose about 20lbs - which I have - and to overcome infertility - I'm not pregnant yet - but hope to be someday soon.  I have also seen a lot of other health improvements that I wasn't expecting - less gas problems, no constipation as long as I don't eat wheat, no stuffy nose or allergy type problems as long as I don't eat dairy - things like that which were added benefits.  

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Leaping greenly,

Thanks for your very helpful and funny reply.

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I was referred to a naturopath through a company health program for sleep problems.  I've also had a long term struggle with weight control as an adult.  The naturopath recommended the BTD as he does for all his patients.  The naturopath left town after only a few visits, but I continued with BTD on my own.  I had a pretty major insomnia issue resolve pretty quickly and have had other benefits such as more normal bowels.  The weight is still a struggle, but I'm not wonderful about compliance.  I will stick with BTD because it just makes a lot of sense to me.  I also know that I could lose the weight with better compliance, but for some reason, the motivation is just not there consistently for me.  I'm blessed with very good health, besides the weight.


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I heard about it and thought it was quackery. I was 6 mos. pregnant with my 4th (of 5) child and was having serious diarrhea, gas and abdominal pain. Three months later I was still having problems. I ran across Dr. D's 1st book. I read it and "experimented upon the word". I pulled all bread products from my and voila! I felt so much better. I later came to find out I had Celiac and corn allergies. From there the rest is history.  I am pretty much compliant dues to celiac and corn, although a large milk chocolate bar can be tempting. I won't even try to address my other health issues-there just is not enough space.


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Believe it or not, this is in summary form.

In October 1994 I become determined to know how a human being can reach its greatest potential.

In December 1998 I read a very weird book. I can not recall the title or author. It believed a human should rely on its own. God does not exist (Sort of Ain Rand’s philosophy). It proposed the Atkins diet.  This was my introduction to the idea that food can enhance performance. While I thought on the issue of God I decided to try Atkins and observe if nutrition has a role in enhanced performance.

I had worked for 10 years in the strategy/marketing department of leading food/beverage multinationals and this issue had never crossed my mind (other than the awareness of the benefits of a fast boost from caffeine).

Annemarie Colbin writes in http://www.foodandhealing.com, “Once we know how deeply diet affects us, we can never again claim ignorance about the power of food.” Atkins made me conclude this as it made a significant difference on me.

In February 1999 my search for human perfection (or human improvement) took a new slant. Off I went on the search for the ideal nutritional program.

In June 2000 at a luncheon at my mothers a friend and I were scavenging for the protein and veggies. I was practicing Atkins again and she was practicing BTD. She said she would give me a copy of the list but never did. I did not look for the book as I thought it was the nutritional regime of her religious group. I had not been sold.

In June 2002 I was practicing vegetarianism and, feeling horrid cravings, I went into a book shop to find an alternative diet. Saw Spanish version of ER4YT, remembered my friend, and got it.

The first month was heaven on earth. I knew I had found the ideal plan. I fell of the wagon and since, it has been hell on earth.

Well, I am not used to making sacrifices and if I lived in my own little island it would be wonderful but, like most of us, I live in avoid land. Often times I feel so tired of avoiding the mines.

I am healthy, at least I feel like it, and with a healthy weight so I constantly wonder if the benefits acquired by a nutritional plan are worth the effort of compliance.

At least, lack of consistent compliance has led me into searching for other nutritional plans. And, guess what? I am still here; I always come back, even if it is with my non compliant outfit. When ever I manage at least two days of compliance I am back in heaven.

In my main search - human perfection, I am testing the hypothesis that it is the union with God which makes us perfect. The second hypothesis is that Jesus Christ is the best way to union with God.

Reading the life of saints (Christian and non Christian), I have observed they all ate quite humbly. And this is my main dilemma at the moment.

Do I need to spend so many resources (time and money) on food to reach union with God? Can I reach union with God better on a diet based on bread and water? If only it could be essene and mineral water

Perhaps it is my addiction to wheat that keeps me stuck on this torturous wheel. I can not think straight yet, I can not live without it  



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Susana how I do understand ya but try it with your mind.... instead of wheat
and if I do understand well... please try to get off all jjjjjj= judging styles..... there's no
way out of better or bader (even not worse ) but only *different*  

If you become more and more aware of your conditioneerings.... oups....zzzzth
no-one is perfect.... and I think that the form of illumination is furthermore an iiiiirrx.....
                     but illusion

because we are humans and humans are silly and do faults...even repeat them thousands of times (likewise a relationship between man and women )

We are only a glimps of God... never can afford it or even do a little similar
but be happy with it and you feel go(o)d    
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Hi Isa,

Thank you. Yes I try getting satisfaction from the brain but the pleasure obtained through wheat still beats all natural high. Ahhh conditioning! I have been compliant 4 days. Today I am not. Now I am in ecstasy but wait till tonight. My poor husband! Still learning and I know I will get there. I shall fight all my previous conditionings to death

I hope I do not judge anymore, well sometimes… you know, I am human. I have realized I am not in possession of the truth so with other points of view, I rather discuss, so I can learn, than argue. Unfortunately, most people argue so I can not discuss.

Just to illustrate the point, Chinese philosophy lead me to Hinduism, and Hinduism led me to Christ. I get great peace from reading Buddhist works and have learned greatly from faithful Moslems or reading the Koran. All points of view have their value. All have helped me grow and understand better.

The same with nutrition, I learned the advantage of low carbs from Atkins, I really do better if I do not have my fruit after meals as I learned from the Montignac Method, I like to combine Carbs/fat/protein as done in The Zone but I prefer eating only 3 times a day as I understand is advocated by the leptin method. Most of all, I like to avoid avoids. All this sounds good. If only I could maintain it in a somewhat consistent manner. It is generally wheat, milk, and coffee all day long. No wonder at the end of the day I am so confused.

Which takes me to the “Wheat Rant” thread where I will continue on this non judging issue as a reply to your latest post there and Cybertoothtigress’s. But first. Some work.


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Leaping greenly, thanks for your very helpful and funny reply.  Gail

De nada!  This message board community is full of folks who will respond to anything and everything you post!  So keep posting!




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Well… shortly after I posted on Sept. 13th a Little Star shone showing me the way. The message from the Little Star was: “The answers my friend are blowing in the wind.”

Since the Little Star is a spiritual friend I took the message seriously and remained receptive.

Fascinating! Sometimes my last reading at night is the passage of the Gospel which will be read in mass the next day. That evening the Gospel was Luke 7, 31-35  “.... For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine; and ye say, `He hath a devil,’ The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, ´Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!’ But wisdom is justified of all her children.”  

Fortunately or perhaps unfortunately (as it would have been clearer) it was not Mathew15, 17-18 “Whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught. But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.”  

Certainly there is an answer here. Do not know how others take it. I have since been thinking/meditating on it and I am arriving at the conclusion that it does not make a difference to God.

My experience is that what is important for God is how much love one gives.

But what does the last sentence mean? “But wisdom is justified of all her children”

Perhaps the Gospel reading was answering Gail’s question: “How do you respond to people who think the BTD is flaky or a fad or unscientific?” Meaning all novelty is going to be criticised regardless...  

Gail (typebdiet) do not go too far. You also asked if we had doubts. Now you have to stay and read the conclusion. Do not leave me alone now.



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I think that when people say that BTD (or a lot of things) are "flaky or a fad or unscientific", the truth is those are not the real problems.  The real problem is almost always that they are afraid to change or too comfortable to change. Plus, there is so much information in our society that we are bombarded all the time with "Do this" or "Eat that", and our innate filter has to process it somehow.  Don't be too hard on others, because most people have to see it lived first before they are willing to try it even for a week.

Susana-Wisdom is personified in Proverbs and Ecclesiastes, so maybe it is a reference to that.
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Ishy, I also agree that peoples reaction has a lot to do with unwilingness to change.

Thanks for the lead. I'll look into it. See where it leads me.

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Simply put, I started the diet because I'm fat And my best friend is getting married, and I do not want to be the fat bridesmaid :S

My mom brought the book home from her homeopath. Upon a summary of the diet, my mom and I observed that inadvertantly, I had been the one following the diet the closest in our family, and I was the "skinniest" (Family of Four overweight O's) So that picqued my interest; I read the book, decided it made sense, and started.

I haven't been able to add in the exercise yet, nor am I giving up vinegar and I eat a lot of chocolate... but in about three weeks, I've lost an inch and a half off my waist. No exercise, lots of chocolate, and I still manage to lose inches? I love this diet. (And yes, you techies out there, I plan to incorporate the exercise, and limit my chocolate intake, but the pool doesn't open until October, and I've at least switched to dark chocolate which has less milk...)
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... nor am I giving up vinegar


Can you switch to apple cider vinegar, which is a type O secretor neutral?

Sounds like you are doing great!



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Serena,
can t wait to hear about your development when being more compliant!! )

sounds like your body will respond very quickly to the positive changes.


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Apple cider vinegar will not suffice. I will *try* to limit my vinegar (found a soy sayce without it) but it's not going away. Have to draw the line somewhere...
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soy sauces have wheat added.
the only one that is pure is 'tamari'....try finding that one...sun J is the brand.


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Isn't the brand San-J Lola? I'ts also organic.  


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right kristin!!
not sun but san!!! lol........


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Not all tamari is wheat free.  Make sure you read the label.

http://www.san-j.com/pages/tamardsc.htm


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I searched the net for a perfect diet and this is where I ended up, tryed it and it helped and now here I am.
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saverain,
you sure know how to search for the right thing!! lol


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Six years ago, I gave birth to my third child. I was pretty slim when I got married. During the pregnancies, I gained some weight, but I always managed to lose most of the weight I gained. But the third and the last pregnancy was quite different. During the whole pregnancy, I was working, and since I'm a software developer, I work by sitting for hours, no exercise at all. Six months after the birth, I started to work again. I consumed quite a large amount of snacks by black tea while at work. Most of them were wheat products. One day at work, I noticed that there was an earthquake outside, and then realized that the earthquake was inside my body! They carried me to hospital, I was so frightened and hopeless. That was my first panic attack, but I didn't know it then. I also had serious gas problems.

It was getting impossible to lose weight, I tried to start a diet several times, and never succeded, I now understand why : Whenever I started a diet, I used to put chicken, couscous(cracked wheat-I believed that it was better than rice!), tomatoes, olive in my food list. I used to have lentils quite often. These are all avoids of type B list of BTD!.

One day I decided to spend alot of money and try a famous weight-loss product packet. I heard about it from a friend who was a sales representative of the product. Before sparing a lot of money for the packet-and I had to spend that every month until death!-, I decided to ask some of my friends about the product,  in case they heard about or tried it. That was where my life changed. One of my friends then suggested me BTD. He was so kind, and soft, and calm, and helpful that I decided to try the diet. In the beginning I wasn't completely aware of the fact that BTD was not just for weight-loss, but for better health. I started the diet, periodically, gave it up, started again, since it's difficult you know to change eating habbits, and I'm on the diet with a remarkable compliancy since April, 2005.

BTD forums, very well help me to keep myself on the diet. I have no gas problems, no panic attacks(one day I had couscous in a freind's house, and that night I had a terrifying heart attack) since then, and even began to lose weight. I have chance to exercise in summer time when kids stay with my mother in another city, but during winter time,  I rush home after work, run towards the kitchen, begin to cook, wash the dishes, prepare children for sleep, and and get very tired, and cannot exercise at all.

There lies a science behind this diet. It's very logical, and I take benefits of it. My joint pain has gone, and whenever when I consume wheat, it comes back. All this can't be a coincidence, I think. Reading the forums, I see the diet works for others, too.

This has been a testimonial

Betul

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