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debs
Tuesday, June 21, 2005, 6:47pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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i find the threelac to be very good & has such a delish taste.i personally feel its been worth it imho.the oxy stuff helps altho sometimes if i've forgotten to take it i know cos i get more bunged up than usual.i am on my 2nd box of threelac & expect to be taking it for sometime.according to the website they reckon its usual that you take for something like 2-3 months & i think a box for every year you've had candida.well i took this to be be perhaps a little sales spiel after all how do you know how long you've had candida? so i intend to keep tabs with the spit test.
i've found the die off symptoms have fluctuated but so far i've had sort of blurry vision,skin rashes,itchy you know where,thirsty,bloating & constipation & brain fog & tiredness & lethargy.
Have i answered everything?


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Thank you Debs - just one more question - what is the oxy stuff and how does it help constipatoin? Does it really help?
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Quoted from John_McDonell_O+
Hi debs,

The reason that I focus on the health of our flora is for the sake of perminancy and stability. If you look at candida growth as natural and as seasonally cyclical, you arrive at a whole different understanding of just how to tend to it.

We have 4 seasons - so lets start at WINTER ... mild ketosis time - very little to no sugar at all ... fiber and carbos are in the root veggies ... no greens (chlorophyl) ... a season of major candida/flora die-off because of small amt. of sugars >>> SPRING continues the low sugar [except colostrum is a food very high in sugars. I am starting to suspect that beach sap it laden with the sugar ribose. Which gives very high energy but our bodies tend to make glycogen rather than make fat with it.] trend ... no fruit of any kind here .... germination of all grains/seeds/nuts usually turns complex carbos into simple sugars - so eat only very slowly so amylase (sugar digestion) is done well before the end of the GI tract where the 'normal' home for candida is ... the greens are young grass powders and sprouts (BTD compliant veggies) ... this season is geared to a severe restriction on any overgrowths >>> SUMMER ups to intake of food considerably. The quality (with chlorophyl and iodine(from seaweed)) and quantity of most foods. And with this candida overgrowths are more likely .... eat few fruits ... as they come into local growth patterns - usually the price dips. So for many North Americans it will mean (when fruit is eaten) mostly a fruit diet of berries. Fruits from tropical climates usually have extremely high sugar levels ... and so are perhaps OK for folks with no candida ... no grains except perhaps rice - the advisement re. slow eating is very important - eating on-the-run is a quick trip to an early grave! I find it also interesting that most anti-candida plants ripen at this time - grapefruit (seed extract), olive leaf, etc The strength of our flora should also peak here ... it should be considered as the major candida fighter. >>> AUTUMN is harvest time and sugar content in all fruits/veggies is maximized. Without modern reliance on storage: this season's grains come through with carbos (which are chains of sugars - tied together) ... this is THE season that is hardest on a person with overgrowth problems, but strongly adhering to BTD basics will help immensely ... +++ .... anyone (except the O nonnie) should drink cabbage rejuvelac especially AWAY from the acidity that comes via meals. To increase the acidophilus it should help to take 1tsp of the FOS stirred into the juice. [FOS is a very, very important fiber. It is a carbo that does not break into smaller sugars, nor does it trigger insulin production; but it DOES feed the microbes of the flora especially the acidophilus. The vast majority of any supplemented flora bacteria will not survive past the acididity of the stomach. Since 0's are known for high acid in their stomach, very few bacteria will survive if they are not enteric coated.] It is interesting to note how prominent the colour orange is here ... carrots, yams, and pumpkins are met with an 'orange' (declining)sun and often a harvest-moon. Onions, garlic, and beets make super-food choices. At autumn's beginning a superior anti-candida fighter ripens. It is the clove bud! At the very end of autumn (hunting season)... a diet high in meat will trigger easy ketosis for O's. >>> then WINTER again

So the general answer re. candida is - it depends.

I noticed that you had thought of a candida-depression link. This is very true. The cyclic patterning also occurs in depression. Example: SUMMER ... is mainly chlorophyl-green + edible flowers. Why is the traditional colour of joy, yellow? Isn't the sun - yellow? Should we not exercise (work in the garden) here? To counter this should we not sleep outdoors as often as possible, away from any artificial light? Shouldn't we focus on blueberries here as a summer-fruit? [Strange ... the indigo pigmentation of blueberries is the same as the night sky.]
One of the 'worst' things to do is to pick one that works and stick-to-it. By varying strategies in tune with the seasons, this too can end.

...... much more too ......

different ideas !!!!!!!

John


very very interesting John.when you say one of the worst things to do is to pick one that works & stick to it.Do you mean worst thing to do is to pick one anti candida strategy & stick to it? As i have done many different anti candida regimes & am taking citricidal also.However its interesting about the fruit as although i have limited my fruit & only had fresh fruit i hadnt given the seasonal side of fruit much thought.hmm! trouble here though berries are very expensive.although i finally managed to locate organic fresh blueberries.they were actually same price as normal blueberries you just got 25g less.they were delicious much nicer than the others & even my family noticed.
anyhow i digress.so john you're saying naturally sweeter foods are available in winter when we need them most?
havent heard of beech sap before?is it used like veg.glycerine?
suzedgar i did find the oxystress stuff good for the candida die off constipation.cant remember how it said it worked now but it does really.


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I bet you are all familiar with DR D s therapies for candidiasis, right?
page 288 of the encyclopedia.....

the basic protocols:
yeast-fungus
immune enhancing
intestinal health
and allergy control

most of you are following these, I hope? )

I read many still eating quite a few avoids.......and that s not helping one bit......


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Quoted from suzedgar
Caroline,
I buy the dried peas from Wholefoods - they are called "just peas" - they are the only carb thing I have other than the occasional sweet potatoe. They are peas with nothing added - when dried, they have a slight sweet flavor to them.
The calcium/mag combo is wonderful for pushing things along - I can't remember what the brand is (I am not at home right now) - I think it is called Perque. I also take 1/2 teaspoon of their vitamin C powder - with each meal - this helps the constipation. I also drink a weak cup of "dieters tea" in the evening - purely for constipation. I think it is very important to get things moving - that is the only reason I am taking the tea right now.
I am hoping to have some success with the UDA Plus from Dr D. - I am taking four capsules a day. This is a new addition to my candida protocol.
Wow - this is not an easy thing to beat! I long to have fruit!


Suz, I will look at my whole foods for the peas..there is no oil to them? that is usually the "catch" to a yummy store bought  snack. also, my other thought is that peas are a starch which turns into a sugar in your system.. which  will feed the  yeast..
I am going to look for the Perque at the Whole Foods. I will have to look to see what is in the Dieters  Tea..I want to stay away  from Senna, is that in  it?

I do understand  how you feel about the fruit...its a  hard thing. I  look at this Candida like this: Its kinda like trying to kill Bin Laden and his horde.. you just have to keep at it. and one day it  will be  gone.
Caroline



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Quoted from dancer
Hello everyone!
today it's my birthday ...I'm 31 years old , now!
I know that there are 2 different school of thinking about anty-yeast diet.
1) NO -NO ALL SUGARS ( honey & FRUITS) - only a litlle quantity of whole grains
2) YES ONLY SOME SPECIFIC SUGARS ( like John reports in his reply)

I'm following BTD 0 + SCD because with systemic fungus infection I've COLITIS and IBS..and so complex carbs won't be the answer.
My injured gut won't be able to digest them and they'll end up being even more food for the microbes, yeast, fungus, that I'm trying to get rid off.

Before to find SCD I was following BTD eatinf gluten-free grains porridge for 1 of my meal ( mostly x breakfast) but I continued to be bloated, sugars craving and terribly UNDERWEIGHT!
I STOP ALL GRAINS ( also the gluten free grains -like rice , quinoa and amaranth that I was eating) and I star to eat more NUTS ( almond, walnut, macadamia) finely groundend until to obtain a sort of nut-butter... and x my carbs I used coocked fruits and root vegetables..
I've still abdomynal pains , constipation , IBS, and fungus overgrown..but the gained weight is a sign of recovery, I think, even if it is a very slow recovery...

I had know an american nutritionist (Mr Russel Mariani) - John know him and his intestynal rejuvenation program- . He healed himself from ALL DYGESTIVE PROBLEMS searching about nutrition, diets and natural health medicine x many hears...
He followed a MABCROBIOTIC DIET when the doctor told him he had a colon cancer and that he was dying...Stopped to eat all the red meat he was eating 3 times x day and he stared to eat whole grains, no meat ...etc...with the years he changed his first approach to natural diet , too rigid such as his first MACROBIOTIC DIET. if one diet is REALLY GOOD and HEALTHY IT CAN BE SIMPLE and APPETIBLE TO FOLLOW x ALL THE PEOPLE..Now he eats. whole garins, red meat, fish, many vegetables, miso soup ...a lot of variety of sesonal foods of EVERY FOODS CATEGORY.He thinks that PERFECT HEALTH MEANS THE ABILITY TO EAT AND DIGEST EVERYTHING YOU WANT AND LIKE. ( I asked him what is his bllot type, but he didn't know...I think he is an A type...and so he had had beneficies stopping red meat and eating grains...Anyway he knows BTD System but he wrote me that BTD doesn't give REAL GOOD POSITIVE HEALTHY RESULTS on long time...and that BTD theory and tests are based on HEALTHY BLOOD...
(I don't agree with him!!!)
He suggested me to eat WHOLE GRAINS PORRIDGE x my breakfast , to CUT ALL SUGARS ( fruits + honey) and to take a synergic nutracetical supplement of PROBIOTIC + ENZYMES based on KLAMATH ALGA- a natural power-food containing all the minerals, proteins, vitamins and essential fatty acids we need ( CELL-TECH is the distributor of these products). http://www.celltech.com
I know that ALGA KLAMATH is avoid x type 0 and there are some doubts
about its purity ( so , as Isa Manuela always remembers, Klamath is ILLEGAL in Switzerland).
So I didn't start his program and suggestions...x lack of money to buy all those american supplements and because I believe that HAVING TROUBLE TO COMPLETELY DIGEST COMPLEX CARBS , with an irritate and inflammated bowel and gut , all those undigested carbs 'll finish to feed all the bad patogens!

So I'm continuing to following my BTD 0 diet WHITOUT DAIRY & GRAINS.
I eat mostly proteins+ fats+ nuts( butter)+ VEGETABLES and BENEFICIAL FRUITS X MY p.m break . and I use, instead of GRAINS, some BENEFICIAL BEANS ( like adzuky) .
ciao ciao!
all the best to you!
love
friendly


dancer.. Happy birthday!!!  

I read your post and I thought I would throw out some thoughts, maybe I am just confused. but before I do, After  you shared what the  typical  brakfast meal  in Italy I had to laugh..that is so healthy compared to  typical American meal, which ususally is a Krispy Kreme donut or a "pop tart" and  if they are  really good... they will pour from a small packet  a "oatmeal" mixture that hardly has any oatmeal in it at all.

I looked at the SCD diet your on, when I started on BTD 6 years ago, I have colitis, diverticulitis, IBS so badly, that I didn't leave my house for more than a hour at atime for 2 years. Once I started eating BTD that started to leave. But it  only completely left, which I started to  not food combine and got  pretty much grain free, except for the SMALL amount that Dr. D recommends.  If I am not wrong, you are also eating some dairy? If you are there is IBS waiting to happen.  You also mention honey and cooked  fruits... when you look at  both even the dried fruits they are both sugars, it really doesn't matter what form they come in. Dried fruits, cooked or not  has one of the highest glycemic levels of fruit. Yes, it helps aide in constipation, but if your fighting Candida, your defeating your purpose, because your feeding the Candida, which in turn is causing constipation. its a vicious cycle. I am wondering, have you  every followed BTD  strictly? and did not mix grains and protein at one meal? Even now if I do that...I am in BAD shape. Gas, bloat..etc..
I do understand  the finances it takes  to buy the american supplements..but I know following the Candida diet, would help.
I'm just concerned you dabbling in a couple diets that are not compatible.
Now, if I  have misread the post... PLEASE please forgive me. Or if anyone has other thoughts.. please correct me.  
All in Love, Caroline



Sound of the ocean soothes my restless soul
Sound of the ocean rocks me all night long.
Last night in my dream
I saw your face again
We were there in the sun
On a white sandy beach of Hawaii


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Quoted from debs
i find the threelac to be very good & has such a delish taste.i personally feel its been worth it imho.the oxy stuff helps altho sometimes if i've forgotten to take it i know cos i get more bunged up than usual.i am on my 2nd box of threelac & expect to be taking it for sometime.according to the website they reckon its usual that you take for something like 2-3 months & i think a box for every year you've had candida.well i took this to be be perhaps a little sales spiel after all how do you know how long you've had candida? so i intend to keep tabs with the spit test.
i've found the die off symptoms have fluctuated but so far i've had sort of blurry vision,skin rashes,itchy you know where,thirsty,bloating & constipation & brain fog & tiredness & lethargy.
Have i answered everything?


I couldn't agree more with Debs... the longer you have had Candida thelonger it is going to take, I know inmy heart it has been since I was a teen. so, I am in for the long haul.
the symptoms I have had so far fighting it and they change all the time, its like the yeast are holding a three ring  circus inside me.  blurry vision ( which is a freak out!), skin rash ( that I try not to pick on), itchy ( that I try not to scratch), can't get enough water, bloating, CONSTIPATION, brain farts, tired ( hard time getting up), did I say CONSTIPATION? Like I said, its like  trying to kill Bin Laden and his horde...its keeps going in another direction.

We'll get the little alien yet!
Caroline


Sound of the ocean soothes my restless soul
Sound of the ocean rocks me all night long.
Last night in my dream
I saw your face again
We were there in the sun
On a white sandy beach of Hawaii


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Quoted from lola
I bet you are all familiar with DR D s therapies for candidiasis, right?
page 288 of the encyclopedia.....

the basic protocols:
yeast-fungus
immune enhancing
intestinal health
and allergy control

most of you are following these, I hope? )

I read many still eating quite a few avoids.......and that s not helping one bit......


"I read many still eating quite a few avoids.......and that s not helping one bit......" Lola, your right!
and I agree.... you can't really choose bit and pieces of BTD.. it won't work.  Dr. D has done years and years of study. We  say over and over again how thankful ( atleast I do) for BTD, then we need to follow his study and the protocol.
Just my humble opinion.
tucking my tail underneath and crawling over to the corner, before I get hit with a shoe.
Carline


Sound of the ocean soothes my restless soul
Sound of the ocean rocks me all night long.
Last night in my dream
I saw your face again
We were there in the sun
On a white sandy beach of Hawaii


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Wednesday, June 22, 2005, 3:57am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I know it Hadoken,
I TOTALLY AGREE wit YOU!
MY LIVER is always in difficulty...I 've high level of transaminasi...
so...what do you suggest x type 0 ( a little underweight + systemic yeast infection) liver detox?
What do you mean by ..having any normal meals?
Do you think that my daily menu , in my conditions, is correct or should I have to change something ?
thanks!
ciao


I've just written another thread on Detox Team.

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dancer.. Happy birthday!!!

I read your post and I thought I would throw out some thoughts, maybe I am just confused. but before I do, After you shared what the typical brakfast meal in Italy I had to laugh..that is so healthy compared to typical American meal, which ususally is a Krispy Kreme donut or a "pop tart" and if they are really good... they will pour from a small packet a "oatmeal" mixture that hardly has any oatmeal in it at all.

I looked at the SCD diet your on, when I started on BTD 6 years ago, I have colitis, diverticulitis, IBS so badly, that I didn't leave my house for more than a hour at atime for 2 years. Once I started eating BTD that started to leave. But it only completely left, which I started to not food combine and got pretty much grain free, except for the SMALL amount that Dr. D recommends. If I am not wrong, you are also eating some dairy? If you are there is IBS waiting to happen. You also mention honey and cooked fruits... when you look at both even the dried fruits they are both sugars, it really doesn't matter what form they come in. Dried fruits, cooked or not has one of the highest glycemic levels of fruit. Yes, it helps aide in constipation, but if your fighting Candida, your defeating your purpose, because your feeding the Candida, which in turn is causing constipation. its a vicious cycle. I am wondering, have you every followed BTD strictly? and did not mix grains and protein at one meal? Even now if I do that...I am in BAD shape. Gas, bloat..etc..
I do understand the finances it takes to buy the american supplements..but I know following the Candida diet, would help.
I'm just concerned you dabbling in a couple diets that are not compatible.
Now, if I have misread the post... PLEASE please forgive me. Or if anyone has other thoughts.. please correct me.
All in Love, Caroline




Dear Caroline, thanks x your wishes!
About your comment.

I'm following BTD 0 100%:
I eat  mostly BENEFICIALS + some neutrals and NO AVOID.
MEAT - FISH -NUTS- GREENS -VEGETABLES- FLAX OIL
I don't eat any dairy from 2 years  ( my almond yogurt is from NUTS, only)
and I don't eat any grains ( gluten free ,too) from 1 years..

I found SCD theory useful x me :
If I'm not be able to completely digest complex carbs - because I'm very sensitive a nd with sick digestive system- if I eat- like I was eating!- any grains -cereals, well they finish only to ferment and so to feed the bad pathogens!
Eating simply sugars by fruits, I absorb and digest all my carbs  safely, without feed bad pathogens! (SCD is used succesfully from parents with autistic children and IBS, Chron, Colitis...: it's the quality of carbohidrates that makes the difference!)

And , about fruits :
I eat ONLY BENEFICIAL 0 TYPE, according the season ( Jhon, your post about foods and seasons IS GREAT!!!!!!!1thanks!)

Berries, Cherries, Plums, pineapple, ...

And I've always  strictly followed combination food .
I NEVER eat carbs  + proteins ( except root vegetables + meat or fish)
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CIAO dancer,

There is a little 'trick' that may help you and its very inexpensive.  It can cause some problems for 0 nonnies but for 0's (like you, Maria) and others, it should be fine, even beneficial.  The 'trick' is cabbage rejuvelac.  [The old AVOID-label for O's was because store-bought sauerkraut uses vinegar(acetic acid) in its pickeling process.  Homemade sauerkraut forms another juice called D+ lactic acid, which is very supportive of the flora's biophedus bacteria.]

Recipe: use 2 clean small jars ... (label them #1 and #2)
          to 1 cup of distilled water add a small handful of cabbage and blend
          pour mix into #1
          let this mix stand on the counter-top (or warm fridge top) for 2 days
          at the end is a very mild-tasting sauerkraut ... seperate the cabbage from the water
          if you wish by filtering the rejuvelac through a terry cloth
          save 1Tbsp of the rejuvelac-water
          drink this on an empty stomach (away from meals)
          [OPTION: dissolve 1tsp of FOS in the rejuvelac-water before drinking]

         To make this an even easier process - repeat everything in the above on the second Day
         with jar#2
         on Day #3 - (as a 'starter') add 1Tbsp of rejuvelac-water to the water of the new blended
         mix in jar#1
         the rejuvelac will take just 24 hours to make (saving a whole day)
         Repeat this when the rejuvelac has been finished in jar#2 (on Day #4)
         Since now it only takes 1/2 the time with 1Tsp of 'starter' - on one day the rejuvelac-          water from jar#1 can be drunk and the rejuvelac-water in jar#2 on the other days

The only drawback from doing this forever is that the rejuvelac tends to get strong-tasting after a week or so ... just repeat the process if a new batch is to be made

It really is good-stuff ......


John


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hadoken,  what does this mean?  I'm looking for info on liver cleansing.  Don't know where Detox Team is and would like to find thread.
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Many thanks John!!!!
I'll try your  cabbage rejuvelac!
It's sounds very useful and...deliciuos!

ah... I totally agree with your reflection about seasons...I'm VERY INTERESTED to have one another your suggestions..
About FOOD'S CHOICE and SEASON...
YOU ARE A GREAT EXPERT on it!
SO
Could you so kind to give us one example of  WINTER- SPRING-SUMMER-AUTUMN menu?

WINTER MENU..
breakfast, breack, lunch, dinner...

SPRING MENU...

I'm very curious to understand HOW TO REALIZE the connections foods ( according your type) & season in practice!

Thanks if you have the time and the kidness to make this !
ciao ciao!


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Quoted from John_McDonell_O+
Homemade sauerkraut forms another juice called D+ lactic acid, which is very supportive of the flora's biophedus bacteria
What about lactofermented whey - I happen to have a bottle of this in concentrated from and has been using it in place of vinegar and was wondering if I could have some of it in place of lemon juice before breakfast.



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whey is to be avoided by Os and
As......( I think nonnies can have some)
so I believe your lactofermented whey would be ok considering you are a nonnie. )


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On diet--it has only been about 10 days, and I am avoiding carbohydrates almost totally--I want to get this under control.  I notice some of you are eating things like beets.  I am missing "beets and sweets" (potato that is).  Do you find they really fit in?  or does eating them cause a setback?  Somewhere I read one should try no carbo for the first three weeks.  Any views?  I have (in 90+ degree weather) made one ounce of grapefruit juice flavor three 8 oz glasses of strong mineral water, ice cold.  Delicious.  Otherwise no juice.  Surely that can't be too much fruit?

Breakfast:
Boneless turkey thighs, marinated in garlic, olive oil, lemon juice, and good curry powder, (just cut off little slices with kitchen shears when you want to cook some--with lots of garlic, keeps well in the refrigerator), sauteed in more olive oil, with a large raw baby spinach salad and "Garden Peach" yellow tomato from my favorite farm stand, pan drippings poured over all. OR

Three egg omelette filled with sliced tomato, sliced onion, and arugula.  OR

Buffalo burger mince sauteed with garlic and onion, with a can of diced organic tomato and Middle Eastern Spice (pinch of Zatar, pinch of allspice), over sauteed mixed summer squash.  (Also obviously works for dinner).

Lunch:  Out, standard Angus burger medium rare, no bun, no nothing--but asked for a little onion and tomato--and got a lovely surprise side of sauteed onions with a slice of raw tomato and a slice of red onion.  Waiter's creativity was much appreciated.

Dinner: (If lunch was out or home late), otherwise works as snack:
2T ground flax
1T leicithin granules
dash sea salt
2T coarsely chopped walnut pieces
1heaping t ground milk thistle seed (here's the liver support)
a little vitamin C powder (less than 1/4 t)
1T ghee

You can put all this in a plastic bag and carry it to work, roll it all around together and it tastes a little like a walnut frosting (you hit little bits of ghee).  The courageous could try adding dried blueberries--I'm still waiting a bit.  This can also be put in a mug, with office hot water to fill, and stir.

If you eat it out of the bag, you must drink liquid nearby (not a tearing emergency, but don't forget); if you use the office H2O, it will make a nice porridge-like thing to eat, with a spoon, and will not go totally slippery before you finish.  This, plus my usual 1000 calcium 500 magnesium seems to keep everything going nicely.

I have in about 10 days lost about 15 pounds (measured as 1.5 inches at the hip--I run 5 pounds to the half inch).  I had no idea how much of my "overweight" was a toxic reaction.  I am not getting much more than about 1000 cal per day now and have probably lost about 3 real pounds.  Not clear how to get more without carbohydrates or overdosing on protein.  

This whole experience is very surprising to me--I did not know I was so ill--and like someone else in one of these threads, when the UDA plus arrived, it was like the charge of the cavalry.  My sense of humor is working, given my previous near-disbelief in candida as a general intestinal problem--and no more depression, to say the least.  I would appreciate hearing from some folks how long this will take.  I'd love to see a glass of red wine again.  But so far, while the morning glass of water reveals a less wild situation, "it's still there."  By the way, I have always been pretty compliant in BTD terms, but had reduced my thyroid medication and given up on HCl supplements--and both were a bad idea.  At this point, I am probably just not going to regenerate those capacities as far as I might like, and I just need to get the job done to keep the balance.  I look forward to reading more meal ideas.
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I wouldn t change my plan if I were you!
you re loosing weight steadily........and you seem to be doing fine!

if adding root veggies to your diet, slows down your weight loss, then reduce the quantities.

remember this plan is very personal, adjust it to your needs.
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I was reading that the sour green apples, Granny Smith variety are OK for candida.  Otherwise forget any other fruit.  I agree that no grains will speed up the process, but I have lost body mass without them.  I don't like to see my hard earned muscles shrinking!
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Hi I have been a sufferer of cronic candida infections and have not found the slightest difference in what I eat or don't eat. I do know that vit. C is very important and we can take up to 2000 mg of good C per day. This helps with the constipation thing. I found a suppliment that I take and it is the ONLY thing that ever worked for me. I've tried yeast cleansing kits and nothing seemed to work. If anyone is interested email me directly and I'll tell you what it is. Candida is a viscious cycle and once it's set in it is really hard to get rid of. I am now infection free after only one month of treatment.
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Dancer,
Cutting out all Nuts has cured my IBS.  Actually, I eat quite a lot of beneficial and Neutral fruits.  My ststem simply cannot digest ANY nuts even in small amts.
Even a litte makes me very constipated.
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I don't know for shure but I think I have candida yeast or some kind of problems with bread because I would always feel weak and tired when I ate bread for a while.
Now that I am on the diet I feel limber and just overall great. This is what saved me: staying away from bread, sugar, and dairy products all together. I eat beef, eggs, sweet potatoes, liver, chicken, fish, carrots, spinach, brocolli and I only drink water. I also take a mutivitamin everyday and snack on trail mix(Pumpkin seeds and walnuts...), plums, and figs from a health food store during the day. I just feel cleaner. I have been on the diet for a week now and the anxiety I always had is now gone. I say what I want when I want and I don't feel anxious about expressing myself. I am 22 and I'm a type O. I feel like I am in perfect health and plan on staying on this diet as long as I can. It's not very expensive, it's something I can handle now in college. I really think this diet is saving my life. I just need to exercise a little more and I'll be set. Who do I thank?

Oh yeh and for some reason girls are attracted to me more...I think I've changed dramatically.

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saverain,
glad to hear about you great success on BTD!! )
good work!
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if you'll go up to the top of the page, right hand side to Member Center, then to Avatar Settings on the lower left side of that page, you can select your blood type and you won't have to keep telling us what it is.
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I am thinking about trying the Threelac myself.  I don't have as much problems as I used to have with Yeast.  I still have a few that never leave though.  I just hate living on pills.  I already take all the Basic 4 vitamins offered by the blood type diet, and I follow the diet almost 100%.  I do break down at times and eat things I shouldn't have.  How many have tried the stuff?
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if at first you don't succed try & try again.
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ive tried threelac which i found very good for a while then my body seemed to get used to it & didnt seem as effective after a while though it has a gorgeous lemon flavour. it would taste lovely as a lemon cheesecake flavouring. anyhow i'm usin caprylic acid at the moment.However if i can make a suggestion by all means use threelac but just use it for a while then change when or preferably before your body gets used to it.


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Just another progress report.  I recently had several clear days on raw red cabbage (and the strict diet continued), and even had some fruit and a sweet potato.  Then made John's great kraut, but couldn't eat it as often (back to work schedule--moving around too much, and some complaints about the interesting aroma).  The original approach was a couple of leaves with every meal, and I will try that again, with kraut at home.  In the meantime, I rechecked the xylitol material I had found on the web (somewhere), and found that contrary to my earlier understanding, it is BAD for candida, which gobbles it down thinking it is sugar and then dies because it cannot digest it.  I have had several packets, and (to give my "quick and dirty how's it going" test, my tummy is flat--i.e. not very inflamed).   This morning, the spit test still showed candida all right--but the tendrils broke quickly into little sparkles and disintegrated.  I think it is dying or dead.  (In contrast to tendrils that hold together like rope, then finally sink to the bottom in a coil.)  Anyway, in the repertoire of "foods against candida" try xylitol.  Has been used for years in sugarless gum, I understand.  This is still a work in progress.
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